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IrwinMFletch
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Double-click = 15-20 seconds to start apps after recent update

December 28, 2024 7:30:00 PM from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

The solution described here worked - https://forums.stardock.com/488632/finally-figured-out-sluggish-fences-icons-problem

But the question is, why did 5.04 work fine and when i finally (regrettably) decided to update to 5.86 I encounter this new problem?  Should have stayed on 5.04 I suppose.  I forget now why I even decided to update.  

 

 

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Reply #1 December 28, 2024 8:29:31 PM
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Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Fences v5.5 has introduce a new layout engine to resolved a lot of layout issues happened with older released: Ref: https://forums.stardock.com/528229. As for your issue, I am not sure if the latest version is the main contributor to the issue. Something else might causing it. If you wish, you can try out the troubleshooting tips mentioned in the first post on that thread I posted above. 

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Reply #2 December 28, 2024 8:55:05 PM
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Well, I'll have to keep watch over this.  I didn't want to keep the settings suggested in the post I quoted above, so I changed it back to "Let Windows choose".  Now double-click is working at usual, launching applications right away.  Not really sure if that change/revert toggled/reset something in Fences or Windows to fix the problem.  I reboot every few weeks so we'll see how it goes.

 

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Reply #3 December 30, 2024 8:58:12 PM
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Hopefully some change in future releases will get double-click working as good as it was in 5.04.  Overnight the problem returned.  So some change in fences is causing this.  If I start the same program from the start menu it loads right away.

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Reply #4 December 30, 2024 10:19:40 PM
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Here a few questions

  1. Is the problem on specific applications or any application from your desktop shortcuts icons?
  2. Is the issue is with Portal Fences that link to network drive?
  3. If its a normal MS Word shortcut link on the desktop. Does it launch still delay with or without Fences turn on? Try it and report back. To turn off Fences please refer screenshot below.

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Reply #5 December 30, 2024 11:05:12 PM
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1 - any application for which I have a shortcut for

2 - everything is local, nothing is mapped or referencing a network resource

3 - Nothing is on my desktop - well - maybe that's because of Fences.  But launching from the Start menu is instant.  Now this is interesting, I've never disabled Fences before.  Initial panic as everything suddenly landed on my desktop - maybe that's normal.  Anyway, I located Word on the desktop and it launched in 1/2 second.  Thankfully when I re-enabled Fences everything came back.  BUT - and I suspect this is only temporary - now launching Word from Fences works in 1/2 second too.  I'll try again each day to see if the delay returns - and then I'll toggle Fences off/on to see if that fixes it.  I'm guessing it will - because - recall above when I tried out that other Windows setting and then put everything back to the original setting the problem went away too --- until today.

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Reply #6 December 30, 2024 11:18:35 PM
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I suspect the issue will return too, and from what I understand, it will return after sometimes, yes? Please report back.

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Reply #7 January 19, 2025 7:20:55 PM
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Yeah, it's pretty persistent.  Can I just reinstall 5.04?  Or did 5.5 update some structures/data that 5.04 can't understand?

If 5.04 is an option, do I have to remove 5.5 first and do I loose my layout as a result?

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Reply #8 January 19, 2025 7:32:09 PM
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Hello again,

Have you tried the latest Fences v5.88 Beta or v5.86 release version and see if the issue still there for you?

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Reply #9 January 19, 2025 7:41:09 PM
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I was just reading the release notes on the recent betas.  

I can't recall, is a reboot required after install?  I typically reboot every 2-3 weeks because it takes so long to spool up everything - not just programs.  Today was a reboot day so I'm not ready to do that again.

I've not tried testing in a VM yet.  

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Reply #10 January 19, 2025 7:59:42 PM
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Yes, reboot is very important for software that work with Windows system such as Fences, Start11, Windowblinds, Groupy etc. All the important files need to properly replaced and it can only be done while the system is rebooting. It is best be done immediately after the installation is done.

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Reply #11 January 19, 2025 9:29:57 PM
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Ok, I'll try the beta in a few weeks then

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Reply #12 January 22, 2025 9:18:58 PM
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Ok, unanticipated (and unrelated) BSOD so I took the opportunity to install 5.88 - we'll see how it goes.  Because naturally after a fresh boot the delay issue is not going to manifest itself. 

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Reply #13 March 7, 2025 10:06:53 PM
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I gave up, went back to 5.04 - that version launches anything I double-click on instantly.  Is there any way to turn off the reminder that wants me to install a new version to make my experience worse?

Also, to be clear, I did keep track of and install new betas as they were posted.  None of the updates helped. 

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Reply #14 March 7, 2025 11:20:02 PM
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Referring to your post here https://forums.stardock.com/535037/get;3963571

So you're confirming, the issue is launching short while in peek view as mentioned by OP in that thread, yes? If so these issue has been forward for Support for their review.

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Reply #15 March 7, 2025 11:28:57 PM
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I'm not sure about "peek" view.  Most times I just click on the desktop to bring up Fences, then launch something.  Otherwise Fences is always hidden. 

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Reply #16 March 8, 2025 12:05:26 AM
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I can't reproduce your issue but if Peek is use. The issue can be reproduce. Refer my short video below.

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Reply #17 March 8, 2025 11:35:52 AM
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How would you define peek being in use?  Is that when - as shown in your video - another app has focus then you bring fences on-top and try to execute a shortcut?  But when you just click the desktop to bring up fences, that's not considered "peek"?

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Reply #18 March 8, 2025 6:36:00 PM
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Thanks for the feedback everyone, we have an out-of-band build that we believe will resolve this issue. As with all of our other out-of-band builds, this has not received the same level of review prior to shipping as a traditional beta release for us - so please do no install on any critical infrastructure.

That being said, in our quick testing, it resolved the issue as we expected but please know that the changelog may not reflect this newest change.

Download: Fences 5 Build 5.8.9.1

If you do install this build, please let us know if it resolves the issue.

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Reply #19 March 8, 2025 7:54:05 PM
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Quoting IrwinMFletch,
reply 17

How would you define peek being in use?  Is that when - as shown in your video - another app has focus then you bring fences on-top and try to execute a shortcut?  But when you just click the desktop to bring up fences, that's not considered "peek"?

This is what I mean by Peek.

On my system, I set Peek to bring Fences upfront with "Win+Space", in the video when you see the Fences appear in-front of a Windows that is when Peek "Show Fences with hotkey" was used.

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Reply #20 March 8, 2025 9:35:58 PM
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Ok, yeah, Win+Space, I used that 99% of the time.  Sometimes I'd just click on the desktop - because I had the hide setting enabled.

So you're suggesting that the issue only occurs (or occurs most often) when the Peek feature is used to bring forward Fences?  For me, I'm pretty sure my click-on-desktop method also had the delay, but I can't be absolutely certain.

I did notice that I can't (with 5.04) get Win+Space to bring Fences "on-top".  I thought that used to work. 

Anyway, next time I'm scheduled for a reboot I'll try the out-of-band build just announced. 

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