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Icon Developer Problem

December 9, 2005 1:58:35 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums
For some reason, my icons will not save in the size I am trying to save them in. I am trying to save them in 128x128 XP size but they are saving at 32x32. I don't believe I'm doing anything differently than I have done before.

I open ID and choose convert image to icon. I open a png file and select the 128x128 XP format. Click Ok. Then try to save it, but it doesn't work.

Anyone have any ideas?
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Reply #1 December 9, 2005 2:03:58 PM
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Reply #2 December 9, 2005 3:56:15 PM
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Up in the corner of my screenshot in parenthesis is 32x32, which is what the icons are saving at.

How can I change this?
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Reply #3 December 9, 2005 4:00:27 PM
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Reply #4 December 9, 2005 6:20:48 PM
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This did not use to happen.
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Reply #5 December 9, 2005 8:42:45 PM
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Donna,

Can you export it to the file type you want in the size you want?

I use version 1.2.0, build 1066 and do not see a "convert image" option, just a "File > New > Icon from image file" which then opens a format dialog to set the sizes I want - so the "non-beta" version may be different than what you are using.

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Reply #6 December 9, 2005 10:15:51 PM
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"convert image" option,


Hey Cork. When you open ID, 3rd item down on the welcome screen that you probably close when it comes up. Kinda looks like a splash screen.

Options are:

New Icon

Open Icon

Convert Image to Icon

Recolor Icons


Down at the bottom is a check box that says 'show this welcome screen at startup' - which it will do if you left it checked.
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Reply #7 December 9, 2005 11:09:13 PM
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Bichur,

Forgot about the splash screen.

Okay, so I select "Convert to icon" > Add file format dialog pops up > select my sizes (first time only, then the formats are already in list) > use File > Save as > select "All Files" in "Save as type:" drop-down list in Save dialog > add ".png" to file name > 128 x 128 .png now exists as saved file.

One thing I noticed, is that the 32 x 32 is the only file format set when the "Add file format" dialog pops-up the first time.....

What else am I missing to reproduce the issue?

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Reply #8 December 9, 2005 11:12:04 PM
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Note - if I use the default ".ico" in "Save as type:" list, the end result is a 128 x 128 icon (".ico") file......

Sorry, can't seem to reproduce in version 1.2.0.....

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Reply #9 December 9, 2005 11:17:30 PM
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now try this:

open an icon and export icon as image file. it used to just automatically create a 128x128 png
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Reply #10 December 9, 2005 11:34:31 PM
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Nothing if I use the "File > Export icon as image file", if I use the "Right-click icon > Export as image" command - I get a "Save as" dialog.

Perhaps if Donna removes the "32 x 32 Windows XP" from the left hand list, and then reinserts it below the "48 x 48 Windows XP" listing, it would correct the issue.....

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Reply #11 December 9, 2005 11:36:43 PM
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Note #2 - I also show a 32 x 32 icon in the "Save as" dialog (matching the screenshot) when saving new icon, but my ".ico" still saves at full size of 128 x 128....
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Reply #12 December 9, 2005 11:48:24 PM
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Good luck.....
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Reply #13 December 10, 2005 12:17:03 AM
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if I use the "Right-click icon > Export as image" command - I get a "Save as" dialog.

i get that, but nothing show up anywhere
if i right click the image and choose export selected > as pngs, then it works

but it still hasn't helped Donna.

i just followed your instructions above Donna, converted image to icon, choose a 128x128, highlighted it, then file > save as & it saved it as a 128x128 ico
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Reply #14 December 10, 2005 1:46:38 AM
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Thanks Paul, David. I still can't save the icons with the sizes I want. At this point I'm only uploading pngs in OD, but I do have an IP I'd like to consider finishing. I still think the key is up there in my screenshot. Where is says 32x32. Earlier in the day it read 16x16 and that's the size the icons were saving at. How or when it changed to 32x32 is beyond me, but it is still there for some reason. I don't remember it being there before.

I had a simple pattern that I followed to make the icons, but now, apparently, along with a few others, we are all having similar problems. To me, this means there must be a problem with the program. I really don't konw. Maybe this is a job for "the janitor."

I tried deleting the 32x32 format from that list, Paul but it wouldn't delete. I'll try it again. That particular format (32x32)is at the top of the list, before the 128x128XP format. I thought the same thing and tried to delete to reload it at a lower position but that didn't work. I'll keep trying!

Here's another screenshot before I save it. It says that 32x32 already exists. What does that mean? It's the only ize format that says that.
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Reply #15 December 10, 2005 2:05:38 AM
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I deleted the 32x32 format but now it's saving in 16x16 format! Grrrr!
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Reply #16 December 10, 2005 7:29:10 AM
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Donna,

Have you tried uninstalling/reinstalling IconDeveloper yet?

If not, you might try uninstalling > rebooting > go into "Start\Run\type: regedit" and delete the IconDeveloper key (folder in left pane) if they exist, from the following keys (folders in left pane):

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Stardock

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Stardock\ObjectDesktop

Make sure there is no leftover IconDeveloper folder in "C:\Program Files\Stardock\Object Desktop" folder, and then reinstall IconDeveloper.

This will reset IconDeveloper as a clean install.

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Reply #17 December 10, 2005 7:30:23 AM
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Sorry, forgot to say "hit Enter" after "type: regedit" above.

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Reply #18 December 10, 2005 2:55:03 PM
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Donna,

You did double-click the saved icon to verify that the other sizes were missing from the format didn't you?

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Reply #19 December 11, 2005 3:47:40 AM
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Actually icon is a compound file. You cannot say an icon is in a given format, be it 32x32, or 16x16 unless you deleted all the other formats. The icon always saves in all formats you have included, what you have a problem with is the way Explorer or perhaos some other apps display them (that may include IconDeveloper's file open dialog). Don't get misled with a dialog showing only one icon as they don't necessarily have to choose to show you the format you would expect. If you use the icon in DesktopX or ObjectDock it should still yield the same results as before.

Also notice that in current ID in the Explorer's thumbnail view the icon shown is the antialiased XP icon, which I do not think was always the case before.

We had to change sort order of icons in IconDeveloper in preparation for Windows Vista and its 256x256 image format and also to make it compliant with Microsoft's guidelines better. I will look closer into the issue as IconDeveloper.13 is still under development (Beta).

I hope it helps.

If there are any actualy problems with using the icons in apps like OD or DX, please let me know and I shall investigate the matter further.
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Reply #20 December 11, 2005 9:40:04 AM
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Thanks Koasati.

Also thank you, Aikido Master, Troll and Woman of Melodies. I always learn quite a bit from eves dropping on threads like this.
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Reply #21 December 11, 2005 1:37:47 PM
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Sorry, forgot to say "hit Enter" after "type: regedit" above.



Before I go on, I just want to say that I get a technological kick out of you, Paul! (That's a good thing! )
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Reply #22 December 11, 2005 1:45:11 PM
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I uninstalled and rebooted and made sure all thoe files had no ID files sstill contained in them. Reinstalled, but with no change. So I decided to archive the older version. Actually, it's better but I'm still have a little difficulty. It's not quite the same as it was before all this happened. It's saving the icons in 128x128, but without the quality as before. I've got to try some more things and see if I can get the quality back. Maybe I need to export them in a different way, not sure.

After I saved them, I had not had to double click them in the past for any reason. So I tried double clicking the saved icon. It opened in Irfanview and gave me the option to save as an icon or png file. I tried both ways, however both ways left me with a black background. Even the png!

I'll keep working on it.

Thanks, Skinstudio for input, info and for considering the next ID update.
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Reply #23 December 11, 2005 1:57:27 PM
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Oooops. I confused avatars. I should have said "Thanks SkinStudio" not "thanks Koasati"

Thanks, Skinstudio!!
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Reply #24 December 11, 2005 2:11:53 PM
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AHA! So it's not me - Woman of Melodies! I was wondering where Koasati came in on this! I was beginning to believe SkinStudio was an alias for Koasati!
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Reply #25 December 11, 2005 5:55:45 PM
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So I tried double clicking the saved icon. It opened in Irfanview and gave me the option to save as an icon or png file.

Donna,

This sounds like you have Infranview as the default handler for viewing ".ico" files.

If so, what happens if you set IconDeveloper as the associated program for ".ico" files (Tools > Preferences > File Types > select ".ico" > click "Apply"), and then double-click the file to view all the included formats after saving?

I'm not sure that this will make any difference, but it might be worth a try.

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