a tentative question, please don't hit me, I don't want to piss any of these great artists off but is there a point here???

and they're unable to do that here because???

so I guess it is a commercial site that is using pre-existing (and a little new) work to attract users(?). it's not really a mirror site but a take off of WC and is looking to use an unoriginal idea(s) to gain advertising share. (just stating the obvious right?)

I think (therefore I'm screwed) that I get all of that here but without the ads. I will look at the tutorials to see if there is anything new, but...

good luck with your financial endevor.

gmc2 it would appear that you don't really understand the concept of the WinCustomize Community or how big it is. 

Skinning.Net is part of the WC Community, as are other sites, where most of the skinners here also upload thier skins.  With a little effort on your part you can find these sites.  Not sure what your defination of a commercial site is but all you need to do is register at these community sites and have the ability to download skins.  From what I have seen registration is free.

If you would like some help in finding these Community sites try clicking the Help tab at the top of this page.  Click on Community and then find Community Links and then click that.

No one has gained any financial wealth by doing this!!

I thought I did it because I wanted to support a site/group of people that have supported me.

In fact if you want to compare Wincustomize and skinning.net, you'll realize that SDN is much less commercial than here. Nothing is for sale there.

what's the point of skinning.net at all? (sorry, I couldn't resist, tongue in cheek to get a rise) look, get offended, get nasty, become unglued, call me names, insult my parentage, whatever...

2of3, kind of thin skinned aren't we. To respond in kind would be like shooting fish in a barrel. I'll give you a "poor baby" karma point instead, maybe that will mollify you somewhat.

Skinner.net for skinners, good. I would assume that the tutorials are geared for those that already skin, you know, some advance content. Hopefully I'm shooting myself in the foot here, speaking without checking first that is, I'm pretty famous for that. Anyhow, tutorials about how to make back reflected globes used as the start button, effective use of masks to alter transparency, making rounded corners look like rounded corners, working with alpha channels, etc. I would also assume that these tutorials will take into account the various graphics programs (photoshop, paint shop, etc.)

So, when I find the time to check it out, I will and get back to you.

gmc2, no offense but I think your way off base... This suite wasn't put in motion for any financial gain,

I'm probably pretty close in saying that no one who took part made a single penny. The participant's all took part I'm guessing in the true spirit of 'community' the smaller community of Skinning.net and the larger one of WC, which both really crossover.

Some folks may also refer to it negatively as a 'clique', personally I think thats bs, all communities, of the skinning variety or not have groups of folks that interract more with certain people than they may others, Thats life... thats human.... imo.

Skinning.net has done a fine job accomodating that 'itch' for some folks, it is a good site with some great people\skinners and has been around a long time. I can assure you any monetary returns it gets are minimal, I know this as I own a similarly structured site.

lastly, you have been asking a lot recently as far as tutorials go, or complaining of the lack thereof, any sort of 'advanced' tutorials are a commitment in time, thought and effort and will, or will not be posted by those of us with the knowledge, when and if we have the time or motivation to do so. You are coming off in someway as entitled to knowledge that would otherwise only be volunteered by others.

My advice.. step back, look at the bigger picture...check.. then speak... and try to refrain from insulting long time members when at all possible.

your link is also incorrect.

I believe that gmc2 has accomplished what he set out to do. 

This thread was an announcement about the release of a Community Suite from the member skinners at Skinning.Net, who are also part of the bigger WC Community.  gmc2 took over the tread and made it about him, and most of use took the bait, hook, line and sinker.  Yes we were coming to the defense of our fellow community members.  Sometimes you can't see the troll until you take the bait.

The things some folks will do just to grab attention.

damn, you are correct, it did happen, and I do apologize.

I'm sure they will.

Most of the skinners on Skinning.net are also members of wincustomize. but that's not all. I'm for one member of skinartistry, skinbase, crystalXP, deviantart, the skinning suite, and fews others. It's my choice to decide in wich site i'll share my stuff and there are only two in that list wincustomize and skinning.net.

Most of the skinners do like me and share their stuff on the site they are involving on. So expect to see the same work again and again in all these site

But this suite has been created for Skinning.net as a community(not only this site or another but all cause the community is the skinners) project.

Everything should have been uploaded on Skinning.net but due the size of certain skins like the IP or screensaver some has been uploaded here.

Anyhow a WC new would have been writen even if every skin'd been on skinning.net. Because WE are a COMMUNITY.

Now Let's move on and back to the original topic. And again i'm glad to be a part of this project and of this community.

All "skin" related, ya know