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Vista skinning questions.

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I.R. Brainiac
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Reply #51 August 4, 2008 3:48:15 PM
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Tim.. Screeming sounds naughty   
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Reply #52 August 4, 2008 5:23:44 PM
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yeah.....it's much worse than screaming


Note to self:
It's ok to hang out with ZubaZ, but I don't have to emulate his speeling habits
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Reply #53 August 4, 2008 5:28:46 PM
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Jump up and down screaming I can do...pulling out hair is becoming more difficult.    
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Reply #54 August 4, 2008 5:46:36 PM
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Huh.  I didn't notice any spellin errors. 
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Reply #55 August 5, 2008 4:09:33 AM
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Big tip...if you edit the code view window your change probably WONT show up in your blind on apply...you need to change one of the spin button settings somewhere(anywhere)and change it back...so SKS realises you have made a change in need of saving.

The additional buttons section has no setting for vertically stacked images or trans and perpixel...you will have to copy them from a standard button and use the trick above.  
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Reply #56 August 7, 2008 1:06:25 AM
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Restored window...with some fudging,you can get the button to line up in the address bar...but once the windoww is maxxed they are misaligned and cutoff on the bottom...plus the icon shifts over.  

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Reply #57 August 7, 2008 1:09:48 AM
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Left most IE tab sits low when not selected...all others are fine...how do you change the text colors ad fonts there?

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Reply #58 August 7, 2008 2:09:24 AM
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Can't say I've noticed either of those last 2 IR (and I just checked them on my current skin) so I'm not sure how its happening or how to fix it. The text and its color on the IE tabs can not be changed that I know of, maybe one day.

**Edit**
Correction, on the 'windows explorer' windows I do see that one thing happening on the maxed windows... still not sure there is a correction for it yet.
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Reply #59 August 7, 2008 7:29:40 PM
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Whenever I open the preview pane in Layout...my translucent window parts all go opaque.  
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Reply #60 August 7, 2008 7:53:55 PM
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This buttonface color showing in places it shouldnt needs to be fixed.

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Reply #61 August 7, 2008 10:14:24 PM
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I did solve my issue with the minimized caption buttons displaying a button inside a button.On Vista at least...if you set something to true-size...you may need to set your sizing margins to all zero's.

With sizing margins at all 4's,it was putting a true size version inside a stretched version(that had just the button face color showing inside the margins)
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Reply #62 August 8, 2008 12:28:14 AM
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Heres a question about backgrounds(window)...the glass ones are fine in a restored window but maximized they grow very dark and even with non glass backgrounds assigned,WB dosnt use them on the maxxed windows.(like it does with other window parts)
Most elements so far have an alternate state or image for maxxed windows.Do the list view header bars have one?I made it translucent but on maxxed windows it goes dark too.(there is the normal one that would be fine there but it only shows when you first apply a skin and the window was already open)

Little help?    
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Reply #63 August 8, 2008 1:51:00 AM
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Something I missed the first time around...you can assign text colors for glass window back grounds,that I knew...but I missed the drop down box for the text,normal and maximized. 
Wondered why my maxxed window text was black...thats default for glass maxxed.  Changed it and its mucho bettererer. 

There seem to be no text settings for window backgrounds non-glass.  (be great if they did and they would show when a glass window is maximized)  
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Reply #64 August 8, 2008 2:02:06 AM
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All those dark grey areas are supposed to be translucent...and are until I turn the preview pane on in Layout.

Thats also what my maxxed windows look like even tho I have normal backgrounds assigned also.  

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Reply #65 August 8, 2008 5:47:06 AM
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It would be very nice to have the maximized glass and the minimized glass to each have seperate images. When transparent and maximized a layer of darkness is added and i HATE IT!
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Reply #66 August 8, 2008 5:54:16 AM
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you mean maxxed and restored?...thats what normal nonglass background should do...but it dosnt use them...maxxed windows get real flaky too.  

Maxxed windows should not be that different from restored.  
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Reply #67 August 8, 2008 6:16:51 AM
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you mean maxxed and restored?...


yup
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Reply #68 August 8, 2008 6:18:48 AM
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if your info pane is glass AND normal...inactive maxxed windows have this crappy mouseover color blocks.  

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Reply #69 August 8, 2008 11:30:03 AM
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When transparent and maximized a layer of darkness is added and i HATE IT!


me too
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Reply #70 August 8, 2008 11:49:39 AM
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if your info pane is glass AND normal...inactive maxxed windows have this crappy mouseover color blocks.

All 'glass' images should use the solid images for maxed windows. Also for all glass elements I've noticed its better to have the option "Copy alpha channel directly' enabled.

Most elements so far have an alternate state or image for maxxed windows.Do the list view header bars have one?

Where are you turning this on at? Never seen it (still finding stuff in Vista after all this time lol)

All those dark grey areas are supposed to be translucent...and are until I turn the preview pane on in Layout.

Yeah it does but only when you mouseover items... thats something I think Niel will have to address over time, nothing we can do about it and maybe nothing wb can do about it.. time will tell.

Just got to remember.. its going to take some time to get Vista and WB to play well togeather... it took XP and WB how long to get to where its at? And even that still has its own set of quarks (we've just gotten used to them over the years).

Maybe we all should start a new thread on things we would like to see addressed in upcoming SKS and WB updates
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Reply #71 August 10, 2008 5:28:51 AM
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Tip...the toolbar-like button section seems to have the states out of order...it is using disabled for pressed.  
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Reply #72 August 11, 2008 1:56:58 AM
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Still some things that need skinning.(for a complete restored window anyways)  

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Reply #73 August 11, 2008 2:22:33 AM
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Maybe we all should start a new thread on things we would like to see addressed in upcoming SKS and WB updates


Thats sorta what we have here...but if it will get us noticed,I'm all for it.
I've never understood why Stardock tends to ignore its skinners.Who's better than skinners at breaking something or exposing flaws?

Neils job is a tough one...I couldnt do it...but he dosnt communicate with us much.

Some simple answers would be nice...this we know,its being worked on,this we didnt know,we'll look into it,this is impossible,quit whining,this is fixed,do it this way...etc...

I see stuff like premultiplied alpha and wonder what it does...why do some images seem to need it...how do you know when to use it...and the help tab is useless.

Ovelays that slide to the left?WTH is that?Copy alpha channel directly?Why?  


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Reply #74 August 11, 2008 5:22:19 AM
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I've never understood why Stardock tends to ignore its skinners.


Still some things that need skinning.


some of the questions/requests here were already adressed a long time ago, like this one from January 2 (half a year ago!!!!!)
WWW Link
(there were some more like that...)

at that time there were not so many skinners here into Vista so there wasn´t as much reply as it is now, but there WAS some trying to help from the few skinners that already worked with vista.

But what´s more notable is there was NO reply/explanation/statement for future plans or whatever from stardock itself, which could have at least clarified some things and stopped that ´guessing´ and ´trial and error´ about certain things - and that´s lame, I think.

It´s a pity because this way WB/SkS will never really adapt to our needs...

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Reply #75 August 11, 2008 10:34:13 PM
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some of the questions/requests here were already adressed a long time ago, like this one from January 2 (half a year ago!!!!!)

yes but there have been many updates since then and one never knows (without asking/testing) sometimes if that has changed. Skinning Vista is still relatively new comparatively. Some things have been added to skinning Vista and I know for a fact more features will be coming (like being able to skin the 'Large' IE7 and Explorer Navigation buttons). It never hurts to see or ask again.

Thats sorta what we have here...but if it will get us noticed,I'm all for it.
I've never understood why Stardock tends to ignore its skinners.Who's better than skinners at breaking something or exposing flaws?

Yeah I was thinking maybe something that could be restricted exclusively for SKS/WB request. Maybe even restricted to Masters and Developers only. Nothing against anyone else but at least this way the developers will know this group of skinners knows what they are talking about and why.

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