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June 22, 2005 4:48:42 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums
Thanks guys for you interest in helping end horse slaughter in America. I have sent you both an email via The Humane Society so you can ask your state Senators to support the Sweeney-Sprat bill to end this horrible act. It is not spam! Thanks again, I really appreciate it, and also left you a comment in my Save the Domestic Horse thread. Take care. Cindi
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Reply #1 June 22, 2005 6:52:34 PM
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The Japanese are still going to slaughter 700+ whales this year.  "Scientific research"....they must think the rest of the world is mentally retarded.....this is the sort of "scientific research" that McDonalds does to potatoes by creating 'fries with that'.

And we dick-head Aussies still let them refuel their killing machines in our ports...and much of the killing goes on in Australian territorial waters...[Antarctica] ....

I don't know why we don't impound their ships like we do with the Indonesian fishing boats.....maybe it's because we're wimps...or maybe it's because whales aren't fish....

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Reply #2 June 22, 2005 7:07:40 PM
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OMG! That is horrible. Is there anything we can do about it? What are they researching now? I don't even want to know what they are actually doing to them. I won't be able to sleep. This is a sick world. And money is the name of the game. It must bring in more money than they can pass up. But, please don't call all Aussies dick -heads. One of the best friends I have ever had is from Aussie Land. I don't think you are one either. And where is Steve the Crock Hunter. I would think he would be involved in trying to stop it, even though they aren't reptiles.
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Reply #3 June 22, 2005 7:50:46 PM
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You know Paul it's hard to believe this is the year 2005.....it's NOT 1846....are the Japanese so hard-up they have to do this sort of thing???? I guess they aren't creating enough jobs through cars, cameras, steel, ceramics, et al!
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Reply #4 June 22, 2005 7:51:46 PM
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sorry i dont take kindly to the remark as an ozy being called a dick head ,as not all australians are my friend ,and as ex special forces have been side to side with us forces ,was not a dick head then ,
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Reply #5 June 22, 2005 8:07:48 PM
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Mr fudoshi ...the 'dick-head' comment can be laid squarely at Little Johnnie Howard's feet....he's too busy sucking up to Bush one moment and not wanting to stand up for himself [us] against anyone North of here the next.

BTW....I'm an Aussie...so hence the 'we dickhead Aussies'...

To translate...what the Japs call 'scientific research' the rest of the civilised world calls 'farming'...or 'hunting for food'.

Trick is...they don't NEED whale meat....but, like killing minks for coats or hunting foxes for 'sport' they do it for its commercial benefit.

Anyone want to kill elephants for their ivory to keep rich colonials in silverware handles?

Anyone want to kill Tigers for their testicles for an aphrodisiac?

Anyone want to kill Rhinos for similar with their horns?

So...some overly spoiled upper-class twit from Nippon can have fun sucking on dead whale and they call it 'research'.

Personally, I can think of a much more fun 'sport'....let's all go whaler-hunting....see how many slaughterhouses we can sink.....after all...it's OUR Territorial waters.

Actually...we could get the French Govt to do it...they are expert....they sank the Rainbow Warrior in New Zealand.....only killed one person....

That'll do it...

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Reply #6 June 22, 2005 8:17:33 PM
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Interesting. Even Whale hunting is blamed on Bush.
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Reply #7 June 22, 2005 10:58:35 PM
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And we dick-head Aussies


Don't quite be so harsh on all y'all:

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The nations voted 30-27 for an Australian resolution that said Japan's plan should be withdrawn unless the new research can be conducted without killing the whales. The resolution also called for a review of the results of the current research program.

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Reply #8 June 22, 2005 11:27:40 PM
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yes i am against whaling but please refrain from calling australians dick heads as up to now i have the upmost respect for my american friends ,and i expect the same ,i have conducted seminars in martial arts in your country and found many friends during my ventures in u s a
thank you
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Reply #9 June 23, 2005 12:06:35 AM
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Mr fudoshi...clearly you're not reading clearly.  I am an Australian....always have been....born Currie, King Island 1954.

I am NOT an American calling people names...I am an Aussie calling MYSELF and my elected Government names....though I'd never vote for Cardigan Man [our Liberal PM]...not even if my life depended on it...

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Reply #10 June 23, 2005 12:15:55 AM
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Bichur ...unfortunately the chances are that Japan will simply ignore the vote...and probably just leave the 'association' and do their own thing...regardless of public opinion.

IF their hip-pocket can be hurt through trade sanctions....or AT LEAST denying them their refuelling in Australia then maybe it'd be more than a bunch of talking heads going 'tut-tut, how horrid' and putting their collective hands up as a show of displeasure.

That'll do something less than ZERO without real definitive action.  Nothing short of scuttling the whaling fleet will see our Global Community progress any further from the 19th century barbarism of Specie decimation we've all apparently NOT learned from.

 

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Reply #11 June 23, 2005 12:19:16 AM
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Oh...and the 27 who voted FOR the continuation of the whaling.....let's hope they enjoy their collusion with commercial kick-back.....hate to think they were just plain ignorant savages and getting nothing out of it...
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Reply #12 June 23, 2005 1:05:45 AM
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Thank you clwoods - I signed the petition in my girlfriend's name because she absolutely loves horses. Everywhere you look in our house you will see horses. My hard drive is full of horse pictures. So anyhow - again thank you.
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Reply #13 June 23, 2005 1:19:45 AM
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Thank you, Skinner kona. I am glad you got the chance. I will update as I get the news! Thanks again.
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Reply #14 June 23, 2005 3:43:29 PM
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I just got this link in a letter I received today. I thought Jafo might be interested.

http://www.planetsave.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5981&Itemid=1
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Reply #15 June 23, 2005 3:50:10 PM
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I would gladly send them $3.50 us (price of a whaleburger) every week to keep them from killing any at all.
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Reply #16 June 23, 2005 4:22:12 PM
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I would gladly send them $3.50 us (price of a whaleburger) every week to keep them from killing any at all.


Me too. I don't mean to be ugly about other countries, but they have some very bizarre tastes in meat in the Orient. They ate those monkeys and got that horrible epidemic of disease from it. They also boil cats alive and skin them alive so they can have fresh meat at the restraunts. Simular to ordering fresh lobster. They keep the cats in cages till they need them to fill an order. May God strike me dead if I were to ever think that my tastebuds should be gratified by killing a cat or whale or horse for eating. These are not described in the bible as one of the animals we are to eat. America needs to stop killing the horses and stop supporting these countries that have no regard for life. There are enough poor animals in horrid conditions being slaughtered for food. It will make ya sick.
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Reply #17 June 23, 2005 4:25:23 PM
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Clwoods - The Bible says all animals are for eating. I suggest you do more research.
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Reply #18 June 23, 2005 4:57:31 PM
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Genesis 9:3
"Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you"
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Reply #19 June 23, 2005 4:58:50 PM
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...but "a wise man considers the life of his beast"
Utilizing animals for food and flippant disregard for life are two very different things.
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Reply #20 June 23, 2005 4:59:24 PM
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You got me there. But I know the bible. I am going by old testament from Leviticus and Dueteronomy. I know that Jesus changed the laws made in the old testament when he was on earth. But, my point is, that people are so self centered and greedy to satisfy themselves, that they do not care what kind of suffering they cause in order to do it. To me it is immoral and terrible. God also put us in charge of taking care of the animals. I think the disesase that they got for eating the monkeys was a message that that is not the right thing to do. Common sense and love for others should tell them that eating something that is only seperated from us one DNA structure is wrong. Whales are one of the smartest creatures on earth. Cats should not be boiled and skinned alive nor Horses throats slit while they hang upside down alive so some one can satisfy their tastebuds. Just because something is deemed okay, does that mean our brains should fall out of our heads nor common sense and descencey fly out the window. The cows, pigs and chickens are already being tortured so we can eat. Must we keep on adding more animals to the suffering? We are a disposable world. What is not needed anymore for work or gain is tossed aside, tortured, neglected, forgotten, or inhumanely killed that we may yet again get something out of it. I am sure God did not intend for us to do that no matter what is considered clean or unclean food.
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Reply #21 June 23, 2005 5:00:47 PM
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Utilizing animals for food and flippant disregard for life are two very different things.


Thank you. You're absolutely right, Bill.
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Reply #22 June 23, 2005 5:18:53 PM
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Let me guess - your a vegetarian?
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Reply #23 June 23, 2005 5:40:04 PM
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No, I wish I was. My chemical make up does not do well on a vegetarian diet. I have tried several times through out my life. As I grow older though it is getting harder and harder for me to eat meat. I do not eat chicken anymore. I can't even eat the fish I catch because I saw them alive. Last time I tried to eat the large mouth bass I caught, I threw up. My neighbor raises goats for food, and I can not eat those either. I see them running around everyday. The babies are so cute. He brings fresh meat to us on occasion, but my husband is the only one that eats it. I only eat eggs from free roaming hens, or my neighbors. He has chickens too. I love their eggs. They have almost an acre of freedom. The yolk is orange, not the sickly yellow that comes from the poor chickens kept packed in cages so tight they can't even move. You may laugh, but that is me, and I make no appologies. I like who I am. And being or not being a vegetarian has nothing to do with treating all living things with respect.
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Reply #24 June 23, 2005 5:59:07 PM
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kona0197 rolls his eyes...

Sorry CLwoods - I'm one of those guys that likes to go hunting. I have a killer instinct. I love beef, pork, chicken. I can't stand seafood though - the smell is disgusting. So I guess I could care less how my food gets killed.

Anyhow - humans were made to eat meat - look at your teeth - they are made to shread meat.
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Reply #25 June 23, 2005 6:10:51 PM
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I hear and understand all this talk of animal slaughter and I sympathize but I can't justify doing something about that when people are slaughtered and oppressed by their own neighbours and country men... in places like Rwanda, Nicaragua, and even in our own backyards! There are people living in the streets and alleyways, whom we just casually walk by without giving them a second thought. Isn't it a bit hypocritical to be striving for animals before we do something for our fellow man?
If you know your Bible then you know that your primary call is to God, then to your neighbour, everything should come from that, including the stewardship of the environment and care of the earth -that's what the Torah says, let alone the Gospels.
I can't in good consciense fight to save animals before helping out the person on the street who begs to be fed and sleeps on a bench in the street in winter.

I mention it because I've probably been one of the worst offenders.
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