Ironic (to me, anyway) that Barack's first move was to appoint the Dem equivalent of Bob Haldeman as his COS.  Everybody buckle up.  It's gonna get interesting.

Every Chief of Staff needs to be a bulldog.  I think you'll find his cabinet appointments very interesting indeed. 

But to equate Rahm with one of the key criminal figures in Watergate is ludicrous hyperbole.  There's nothing in common with these two men except that they are, well, both human males.

Frogboy: I admire and respect you as CEO of Stardock, for what you have made of it; however, I do have a problem with your political views... or should I say, your interpretation of mine....

Again, what I've said has been misinterpreted!  My entire point is about the entire US Nation putting party politics aside and getting on with rebuilding the country... the broken economy.  Sure there are people who are unhappy about Obama being elected, but it's a fact and they need to get past that and unite with the nation and get behind the President Elect to begin that rebuilding process, regardless of Party affiliations/allegiances

You no doubt are an intelligent guy and I have no problem with your liking Bush, for whatever reason.  You are entitled to your views as I am to mine.  However, and I've made it no secret, I do not like Bush, not for the fact that he often appears vague, vacant and struggling for coherent thought, but for the litany of political cock-ups; goofs; gaffs; blunders and  downright illegal activities... the invasion of Iraq based on a pack of lies, for example.  Having said that, however, I might find that George Bush is an interesting and decent human being when engaged in 'casual' conversation... meaning, I would not tell him to fuck off if he approached to speak with me.

To further demonstrate my non-partisan point: if (Democrat) Barack Obama ordered the invasion of Iran, based on a pack of lies and without the blessing of the UN/international community, I would dislike him in the same way I dislike (Republican)  George Bush, because I am non-violent and a pacifist.... and while it is one thing to defend YOUR country... it's another entirely to attack/invade another.

And with good reason, as stated above.

OK, let's see if we can differentiate between whining at those who distrust Obama (in some cases, very sore losers), and suggesting that the election is over, the time for Party politics is over, and the entire nation needs to support its President Elect if it is to get out of the shit, because divisiveness just won't cut it as any kind of solution to anything.  If John McCain had won instead, the same principle would apply... he would need the nation's support to be truly effective.

Do I think Barack Obama will make a good President? Yes!  I believe he has the ability, strength of character and spine to do the job... not because he is a Democrat, but by virtue of what I have observed in the man.  Will he be the perfect President? Most likely not!  He is human, and to be human is to err.  However, I will not put the cart before the horse and pre-judge Obama's ability/potential to make mistakes as President.  He hasn't assumed office as yet to make any mistakes, thus it is premature to criticise, judge or condemn the man....

Which brings me back to my original point: the election is over, you have a new President and Vice President, so make the best of it, forget the Party politics, and support putting the country back on track under the new regime.

In other words, swallow or spit out the sour grapes and get back to working as a united nation, not a Party divided one

 

No, because it just doesn't matter. 

Haldeman is remembered for the CRIMES HE COMMITTED DURING WATERGATE.  Who gives a rat's ass about his personality when he was appointed?  A lot of people liked Nixon when he was elected.  He just turned out to be a rotten apple.

But let's get to the real heart of the matter here.  Are you honestly so desperate for even the whiff of red meat that you're going to bag on the man because he REMINDS you of someone else?  REMINDS you...

I hope that someone REMINDING you of someone else, pro or con, is not the criteria you have used in the past to make your vote for high public office.

You don't worry that within the next couple of weeks, Pakistan will escalate their annoyance with our questionably legal bombings taking place in their country and have to SHOW us they mean business, and Bush will enact a state of emergency and marshall law, thereby not giving up his reign of the country?

(I know, I know...I watched too many horror shows in the 70s and now I'm conditioned to think the monster can't be killed...he always comes back!  At the very least, I'm conditioned to never let my guard down after the struggle is over).

Good grief.  Once again, this from the guy accusing me of hyperbole.

We're are in heaven over here in assie arent we starkers?...........  the lucky country rocks........  thank fuck the yank election is over.........ive had a gut full of it from day one... im glad obama was elected.

first black president.............  cool.

Yeah Starkers..I have to agree with Kenwas...The American people are hardly ever "one" and are becoming even less "one" with all the immigration pouring into this country. I wouldn't be surprised if we had another civil war here. It takes hardly anything for a riot to break out for stupid shit...but when something like 911 happens...yeah...we rally like there's no tomorrow...for a few days...well...that is as long as it doesn't interrupt our TV viewing or some other mindless thing they have people distracted with. Hell...look how long it took bush to get his ass back to Washington when the planes hit.

Then of course you have the Radical Left/Right/Middle/Conservative/Liberal/ConservativeLiberal/LiberalConservative/LeftWingConservative/RigthWingConservative/NeoFascistCapucinoRightWings/DecafRightWingWithASplashOfCream or whatever other stupid titles they've come up with lately to divide us even further...and that doesn't even include all the fanatical religious group labels. Americans are about as divided as you can get. You can't tell who is who without a playbill anymore. It's no wonder half the country is on prozac or something. 

Yea, it kind of shows the Aussie racism - when is the first Aboriginal PM going to be elected?

Seems our house is in better order than the one down under.

No one is going to convince anyone of anything. Can't we just stop and change the discussion to something less controversial, say,  religion?  

 

Now, I am not saying you are wrong. I just don't understand that perspective. Bush was a multi- failure as a businessman prior to becoming a politician. Help me to understand why you feel he is great. He had alot of shit to deal with, he could not possibly come out looking good. But still.... great?

for sure starkers!! GO THE MAROONS!! UP THE BLUES..........    I have a cousin who plays for the cowboys.....im rather rowdy on the nights they play.........hee hee!!  Miss you too, give my luv to yr missus,

Just to be clear here, I happen to think that is our greatest strength, not a weakness!  We get it together when the need arises however as shown by the fact that you are still an independant country.  (WW2) How quickly they forget.