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A Hacker's Paradise

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Lotherius
Disturbedcomputer
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Reply #26 February 25, 2008 4:32:04 AM
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If you are unsure, test your pc security here WWW LINK to Shields Up You may be in for a shock
took me to
http://ww23.rr.com/index.php?origURL=http://https


this link is not working for me tried ShieldsUp.com but did not look like the right place
and tried ShieldsUp.net and it would not load

please give me the web address here
thanks
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Lotherius
Fuzzy Logic
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Reply #27 February 25, 2008 4:32:28 AM
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I once setup a computer with a fresh install of XP Pro ....and AVG...went online and downloaded the AVG sig update and logged off again.

Ran the update and scanned the machine...I was dirty already.  Probably online not much longer than a minute or so...

Ditto. Installed XP, then installed my ISP software. As soon as that was operational I got hit by Blaster... So, reinstalled XP, but this time installed my firewall before the ISP software...

These days I run a NAT firewall and a software firewall.

Of course this works too:-

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Reply #28 February 25, 2008 4:34:40 AM
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https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Don't know what corrupted that other link, but this one works   

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Lotherius
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Reply #29 February 25, 2008 6:12:32 AM
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Fuzzy Logic



thanks

I aced all
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Lotherius
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Reply #30 February 25, 2008 6:26:20 AM
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Aye, aced it too. Thanks for the link m8. Ill bookmark it for future use
Im pretty paranoid when it comes to my pc. I use bitdefender, spysweeper, advanced system optimizer and opera to browse. Spysweeper is expiring very soon though
Havent had a virus since the damn blaster virus, and that was when i formatted as well.

Dont know what to say about gmail.. never used it, my paranoia will not allow me to use it. I use my website mail instead. Has kept me safe from spam for a long time too.
Anyway, sucks to hear ya got hacked by the dirty filthy russians and their money schemes. I know someone who genuinely thought a russian woman, whom he had met on some site, had fallen for him. It was only when she started asking for money he started to get the idea.. And thats when i said "I told you so!"

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Lotherius
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Reply #31 February 25, 2008 6:30:46 AM
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Just a reminder to anybody new to port checking. If you are behind a hardware firewall, and as is likely, haven't set up a DMZ that effectively removes the protection of NAT, then be aware that 'Shields Up' is reacting to the response or lack of it from the hardware firewall ports and not your local machine...

I know it's obvious, but it's a detail that seems to bypass the occasional user.
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Reply #32 February 25, 2008 9:33:31 AM
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Just a reminder to anybody new to port checking. If you are behind a hardware firewall,


is that a router?

what do DMZ/NAT = ?

you did say
anybody new to port checking
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Reply #33 February 25, 2008 9:40:12 AM
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Of course this works too:-


see picture in reply 27

Fuzzy Logic
you should put a patent on that
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Reply #34 February 25, 2008 10:35:46 AM
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Just a reminder to anybody new to port checking. If you are behind a hardware firewall,is that a router? what do DMZ/NAT = ?you did say anybody new to port checking


Hi DC,

A hardware firewall is often part of a router, but remains it's own component. It certainly doesn't have to be part of a router. That said, when using a router/firewall combo for example as a way of placing your computer behind NAT, your computer would have it's own local address - such as 10.0.0.1. and is protected from direct probing by external traffic, in a way that a computer that only has it's external facing IP (as provided by your ISP) isn't.

Depending on the make of your firewall, you may be able to assign that external facing IP directly to one or more of your local machines, eg. your computer, bypassing the benefits of NAT. Thus exposing it to unfiltered net traffic and leaving it reliant on whatever protection it has set up locally.

I've done this to test software firewalls for instance. The process of exposing services to the external facing IP is covered under the term DMZ. Noting of course that no part of a network thus exposed, is normally let to communicate freely with other local machines that are configured using NAT - and as such may be operating under the umbrella of the trusted zone, with any associated rights.









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Reply #35 February 25, 2008 2:54:54 PM
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Quoting DisturbedComputer,
comment 32


Just a reminder to anybody new to port checking. If you are behind a hardware firewall,is that a router? what do DMZ/NAT = ?you did say anybody new to port checking

You almost never want to enable DMZ on your router unless you seriously know what you're doing. Doing so eliminates most of the benefit of having the hardware firewall in the first place, since it then passes all packets unfiltered on to your PC.

NAT is what consumer grade routers do automagically - Network Address Translation. It takes the network packets coming in to the router and "translates" them to your local area network - that is, it figures out which computer they need to be routed to on your network. The benefit of this is, if your PC did not actively request from a certain IP address on a certain Port #, then the router won't let that IP/Port communicate at all with your PC, protecting it from attacks aimed at specific vulnerabilities in windows.

Some consumer grade routers also offer additional firewall features, but NAT covers most basic situations.

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Reply #36 February 26, 2008 9:23:01 PM
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Thanks,
Alternate Setting
and
Lotherius

well I do know I am not on a local network well I think. No printer,file shearing etc.
I do have Windows Messenger Disabled and remote connect to this PC off.
In XP pro install I have it set to:
this computer connects directly to the internet (cable).

I do have a Linksys Router with XP Pro Firewall turned on.

pretty much what you two said Went over my head, faster then a cat in a room full of dogs.

but thanks for the info.


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Reply #37 February 29, 2008 10:09:07 AM
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I used FuzzyLogic's link to the testing site. I don't know how this is possible but everything that I tested came up absolutely perfect. the only thing that I'm using to defend myself is AVG free edition, Windows Defender and the Default Windows Firewall. Is it possible to "overdo" security because I'm using all free stuff and I'm getting perfect protection.... Oh, I'm also using CyuberSitter which is annoying parental control software that my dad put on my computer. I don't think that would block any viruses or help with the firewall at all though.
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