Fences is enabled however there is only one listed in startup. This has persisted through a few reinstalls including the one that I removed anything I could find.
To elaborate a little more on the starting issue, when I attempt to start fences all the icons and explorer flash twice then crashes. If I attempt to open fences from the start menu or from the exe I get "Fences does not appear to be loaded. You may need to reinstall Fences."
Thats what lead me reinstalling and when a plain reinstall didn't work I uninstalled using the exe, finally I uninstalled and deleted all registry entries and files I could find. Which didnt work, so then I googled some more and found the purge bat listed on the forums here and in the FAQ (but is no longer an active link to it) and thats where I am now.
Thanks again for the help.