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Deskscapes 8 Chuggy FPS on "Revolving World"

June 10, 2015 6:14:00 PM from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Hey guys, so recently i did uninstall with DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller in Safety Mode) my NVIDIA Graphics Driver because i had an issue with it. Before that Deskscapes its Revolving Earth that is in realtime had a smooth FPS and all that. But recently after i installed a fresh NVIDIA Graphics Driver (the issue was not while i had no NVIDIA Driver, only the standard Microsoft Display Driver) the Revolving Earth started to get bad FPS drops. Its chuggy and laggy, and everything i try, even reinstalling Deskscapes does not fix it. I figured it might be the option to support multi GPU since i got SLI on my PC, but that did not fix it either. Im out of ideas, and i think it just looks shitty. Can anyone help me? Thanks

 

Also as a note: Once i apply some other settings or load another video and then the Revolving Earth and fiddle a bit around like disabling the "Pause Dream when windows are maximized" option, it works just smoothly, until i reboot the Computer. It annoys me alot :/

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LokeYourLord
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Reply #1 June 12, 2015 1:00:52 PM
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Ye hi Bump

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Reply #2 June 15, 2015 3:30:26 PM
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Reply #3 June 15, 2015 8:20:02 PM
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Is this a laptop?

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Reply #4 June 15, 2015 9:55:58 PM
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No, its a Desktop PC with actually high end specs. You might have gotten that with you if you saw the SLI text (wich you didnt). Anyhow, it has 18GB RAM, Intel i5 4440, ASROCK EXTREME4 Z97 and 2x GTX 970 STRIX wich are in SLI. So its not an issue with any kind like that. And if you read the text again you see when it happened.

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Reply #5 June 16, 2015 5:51:07 AM
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Quoting LokeYourLord,
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No, its a Desktop PC with actually high end specs. You might have gotten that with you if you saw the SLI text (wich you didnt). Anyhow, it has 18GB RAM, Intel i5 4440, ASROCK EXTREME4 Z97 and 2x GTX 970 STRIX wich are in SLI. So its not an issue with any kind like that. And if you read the text again you see when it happened.

I would recommend contacting NVidia regarding this as it sounds like a display driver issue.

My gut is saying for some reason NVidia are downclocking the gpu to save power and because DeskScapes has started up so early after login it has left the gpu in a low power state.  This would explain why changing settings would help as the 3d rendering would be resetup.

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Reply #6 June 17, 2015 12:30:32 AM
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Well i got my GPUs both Overclocked, also its that i got the Setting for "Maximum Performance" in the NVIDIA Control Panel enabled for DeskScape, still doesnt work. And NVIDIA cant help me, they only ignore their customers. If just DeskScapes would do its job at uninstall then it would be fine. Because i even used Revo Uninstaller its Advanced feature to make sure everything gets deleted, but somehow the thing that keeps the configurations is stuck somewhere, so i cant reset the settings, its simple to see that when i uninstall DeskScapes, and i install it again it remembers that i had the World Background with Rainbow Colors on, wich is not a normal setting, thats the problem :/

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Reply #7 June 17, 2015 1:05:53 AM
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I saw 'GTX 970' and immediately thought of the issues that card is reported to be having...primarily with ram allocation beyond 3.5gig.

Googling 'issues' gets oodles of hits such as... http://www.pcworld.com/article/2876802/nvidia-plans-geforce-gtx-970-driver-update-for-memory-performance-concerns.html

It's almost as if the bargain-priced 970 might not be the bargain it's supposed to be.

Although twin 970s in SLI might appear 'high end' there's a very real chance a single 980 would have been a better option [as is what I went with].

Neil's 'gut feeling' may be right.  You may need to avoid any extraneous demands on graphic load if the card/s are not consistent with stagger-free performance....

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Reply #8 June 17, 2015 1:38:28 AM
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1: Ik about that issue and i am annoyed about it more than you are. 2: 2x 970 in SLI are stronger than a 980Ti in benchmarks, so yep. 3: DeskScapes isnt supposed to even use any of that, and atleast not eat VRAM like a game at 4k. I know very well what i am talking about, and i know the solution for this, if i knew where the settings file is saved i can simply delete that, but i dont know where. If its in the registry i can find that to then. I know why i bought 2x 970 for SLI, and not a 980.

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Reply #9 June 17, 2015 2:00:13 AM
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Quoting LokeYourLord,
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1: Ik about that issue and i am annoyed about it more than you are. 2: 2x 970 in SLI are stronger than a 980Ti in benchmarks, so yep. 3: DeskScapes isnt supposed to even use any of that, and atleast not eat VRAM like a game at 4k. I know very well what i am talking about, and i know the solution for this, if i knew where the settings file is saved i can simply delete that, but i dont know where. If its in the registry i can find that to then. I know why i bought 2x 970 for SLI, and not a 980.

 

I think that i just found it. Its deeply buried in the registry, its at: Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Stardock\Deskscapes

From there on its just to delete everything when you uninstall the program. I will test that now.

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Reply #10 June 17, 2015 2:02:54 AM
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From there on its just to delete everything when you uninstall the program. I will test that now.

Yep...give that a go.... meanwhile I've relocated the thread to 'Support' so the appropriate people will see and respond.

If you have no luck post a ticket to support@stardock.com and await a response...

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Reply #11 June 17, 2015 6:14:17 AM
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Quoting Jafo,
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Quoting LokeYourLord,
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From there on its just to delete everything when you uninstall the program. I will test that now.



Yep...give that a go.... meanwhile I've relocated the thread to 'Support' so the appropriate people will see and respond.

If you have no luck post a ticket to support@stardock.com and await a response...

 

Ok i did try with Revo on Advanced again and deleted EVERYTHING in the registry, it DID fix it but ONLY for the normal world. If you apply an effect like Rainbow to it, it is still chuggy. The issue is still simply that the Uninstaller from DeskScapes doesnt do its job. It should remove everything, but it lets alot laying around when it removes itself.

 

So basicly, to fix this in all i would need to reinstall Windows 8.1, but its not worth it, not for this (wich is quite sad). I guess i am just going to wait for Windows 10. But i hope someone here from the support can help me.

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Reply #12 June 17, 2015 8:46:50 AM
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LokeYourLord...

Rereading the OP you say everything was fine with your system running DeskScapes....but you had some other issue that prompted you to 'uninstall with DDU' after which things went bad with DeskScapes' smooth running....

....but 'twiddling' settings had DeskScapes running again smoothly .... but only until a reboot - then everything went bad again.

As far as that goes it really sounds like an issue with your display driver install/setup, not with DeskScapes itself.

My suggestion would be to revert to the original driver that had no issues [unless that causes others].  It has NEVER been my experience that every new driver update was 100% perfect and/or desirable.  It was often quipped that the name 'Detonator Drivers' was apt.

Modern updates have tended to be less drama...but they still arise....

 

Meanwhile...don't forget to email a ticket to support...

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