...Are you saying that you think that some of the most heinous criminals don't deserve to be treated like human scum.
I mean personally, I find some sick f*ck who just killed his own family and is sitting in the corner crying, and I have a gun, I'm gonna empty the entire mag into the SOB.
No, no, not at all. You're right, Whiskey. There ARE scum-balls out there that COMPLETELY DESERVE what they get, and some of them even deserve worse...but...not All Of Them. Just because some-one ends up in jail or prison doesn't mean they are as bad as some of the people around them. I went to jail for Weed....yes, weed. Sadly though there were times I ended up in the same cell as Rapists and Murderers and Real Pedophiles and all kinds of people. When prisoners in the system get where they are going to do the most of their "time" they tend to be segregated by what kind of crime they committed. Because of space limitations and over-crowding they often mix the "Soft Core Criminals" with the "Hard Core criminals". When that happens the "Soft Core Criminals" often end up GETTING KILLED because they got put in the same cell as a Murderer or a Psychopath who kills people because he doesn't like "the look in their eyes".
Some Criminals, Many in fact, deserve far worse then the punishment they get. Sadly though because our Legal system is now more about Business then it is about Legality, people who don't deserve harsh punishment get Way More then they deserve and most people (kinda like the vibe I'm getting from you, no offense) think that those people are "Criminal Scum that Deserve Death" simply for the fact that they ended up in jail or prison.
I'm hoping you're not really that blind to think that, I don't think you'd be that closed minded, but sadly a Lot of people ARE that closed minded.
@ Raven, I mean in a society like the United States, free-living people can't be forced to live in such a regimented society.
1) If you want to say that the world will eventually become a Gattaca esque Police state, then just say it. I don't think there is any proof for or against that argument.
2) However, if you want to say that the exclusive lifestyles of the rich and famous are going to become a popular trend, then I can say that I think you are wrong.
3) And sure, a police state would be able to build only Regimented and Planned communities, and bulldoze everyone else ... but they can't force people to live in a Utopian society. It'll just become a slums with high upkeep, or eventually rot away.
4) As for the treatment of NON-free persons ... why even talk about these people? Are you trying to be a PETA for prisoners by comparing animal testing to death camps; a la comparing "the cushy lifestyles" of prisoners to a Fascist regimentation?
I broke it down into 1-4 to make it easy to answer, my friend. Here goes.
1.A) I agree. There's no proof either way that things will be one way or the other, though if I had to make an educated guess....I'd say things are only going to get worse for normal people like you and me.
2.A) Brother, look around you. Just like a line of dialog they say in the recent movie "Kick-Ass"...."How come there are So Many People who want to be like Paris Hilton...but No-One wants to be like Spider-Man?". People are and Do want to be and have "exclusive lifestyles of the rich and famous". People do want to be Rich and Famous and have the Whole World watching their every move. These people are commonly called Attention Whores...the rest of them are simply being Greedy. I don't think you could deny that.
3.A) Here I think you're both right and wrong at the same time. Even extremely large populations can be Conditioned to live a certain way or to think a certain way. They don't do this all at once though or do it quickly simply because so many people would resist. Instead they do this SLOWLY over Long Periods of time. Even if it takes multiple generations. Over time we have lost more and more freedoms and it's only getting worse. Technology its-self is both helping us to live easier lives, and also building a virtual cage around each of us even to the point of making us Want to Give Up our liberties and privacy. Just look at MySpace and Facebook and kids who put every fact of their every-day-lives Online for complete strangers to read. They aren't thinking that they are also giving up any privacy they have just by saying the things they do Online.
They will make what-ever version of a "Utopian Society" they want by conditioning the way children think. Then they change it a little more a couple of generations later. That's why if you watch any kind of "theoretically accurate" time travel show. When the person from the past gets to the future he can't understand how people's thought processes have led them to be the way they are in the future. I know that's not a Realistic example, but from a purely "thought process" point of view it's pretty accurate.
4.A) I only brought that up to show that even large (though confined) populations can be controlled. Regardless of the circumstances (like not being a Free citizen). Even now I still believe in the justice system, the difference is now I see the REAL FLAWS IN the System ITS-SELF.
