Quoting Frogboy, reply 379
You didn't "prove" anything wrong. All you did is show multi-step workarounds for things at we're quicker in Windows 7. Workarounds I already knew of and use.
In one instance you said they were many more steps than 7, and when you use the search by just typing those steps are gone...it's the exact same as 7.
Except that I first have to launch the desktop or some other app to get back to the Windows 7-like desktop. Are you saying you won't even concede that's a bit annoying?
I could also point to many instances where there are far less buttons pressed than 7, but I already did.
Like what? I've read this whole thread and the only conceivable advantage I've seen listed for Windows 8 is that the Start screen allows for faster launching of apps since they're already on the screen. That's a pretty small benefit for all the other tangible downsides.
I agree on the first sentence of that last part, that's what I've been annoyed about...though I do believe some of that is happening, I certainly don't believe it should be applied to everyone. Some of the evidence of common stuff you've given is stuff I and most people I know never do.
That's about all I can say really, considering we've all said our piece many times.
(I'm trying to avoid this place since I'm not much of a Stardock customer anymore, but alas it's hard to forget the people you get used to hangin around with. )
I'm sorry you're not much of a customer anymore.
Regarding your points, sure, there are people out there who think Windows XP or even Linux are "better". But one of the reasons I think Windows 8 is failing so spectacularly in the marketplace is because Microsoft and its most vocal supporters have discounted the very real, very tangible flaws in Windows 8 that make it a less productive environment for the typical PC user.
Whatever benefits it has in theory, and there aren't very many imo, those benefits come at a very high cost imo.
I use Windows 8 every day. It's my main OS. I've been a proponent of every version of Windows since NT 4.0. I even preferred Vista over XP even though it hard serious problems.
I remember Vista's launch very well because its proponents poo-poo'd its problems. I even made this post just before it shipped: https://forums.wincustomize.com/125779 (which with the benefit of hindsight I think most would agree precisely nails the things that led to Vista's poor reception).
There is no doubt in my mind that 5 years from now, there will be pretty universal consensus that Windows 8 was a disaster. And I suspect someone will link back to this thread just as I am linking back to that Vista thread 7 years later).
As a maker of desktop enhancements for Windows, Windows 8 has been a boon for us. But in terms of the platform in its totality, I weep for our ecosystem.