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Homeland Security Warning: Disable Java in Browsers: New Zero Day Security Flaw Found

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Reply #51 January 14, 2013 1:13:17 PM
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Other than financial and the inconvenient truth that XP works just fine for the average user?

Thank you.

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Reply #52 January 14, 2013 2:57:33 PM
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Quoting Uvah, reply 49some insane reason

Other than financial and the inconvenient truth that XP works just fine for the average user?

I think you got the replys mixed up. lol

 

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Reply #53 January 14, 2013 3:59:24 PM
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I think you got the replys mixed up. lol

Ya it does that sometimes.  Don'tChaHateItWhenThatHappens?

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Reply #54 January 14, 2013 4:13:59 PM
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No, Uvah... that's just the way the stupid quote thing works.... or doesn't. It automatically quotes the first person when it's the second that's intended.

Either way.... 

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Reply #55 January 14, 2013 6:03:33 PM
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 I get a popup when Java says there's an update, no email.

 

which is why i think that java you had was 32bit. as mentioned, there's no such thing as 64bit autoupdate (allegedly unless you fiddled around with it...)

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Reply #56 January 14, 2013 6:24:08 PM
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My daughter has Java and she also has JavaFX2.1.1 .  The second one I've never heard mentioned.  She has Windows7. 

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Reply #57 January 14, 2013 6:28:57 PM
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JavaFX is a Sun Java 'extension' that appears to be something that a developer might use and would have to be actively sought and downloaded.  It's not part of 'regular' Java.

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Reply #58 January 14, 2013 7:49:14 PM
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Thank you Daiwa.  I have no idea why it is on her pc, I don't think she does either. 

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Reply #59 January 14, 2013 8:52:53 PM
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Barb, if your daughter downloaded and installed the Java Software development kit instead of the Jave Runtime Environment than it would come with JavaFX. I would recommend that she uninstall all things Java and then download and install JRE 7.11. I know I have a couple of old games that require Java on my machine to run. It can still be disabled in the browser if you are concerned about safety.

You can get the scoop on JavaFX here: http://docs.oracle.com/javafx/2/overview/jfxpub-overview.htm

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Reply #60 January 14, 2013 9:28:58 PM
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Thank you very much Frankie!! I will tell her! 

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Reply #61 January 15, 2013 11:53:53 AM
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Thanks for the clarification, Frankie.  Makes sense, though the likelihood of needing even the JRE is low.

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Reply #62 January 16, 2013 9:13:43 PM
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and the nightmare continues..........

http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1131200-yet-another-java-zero-day/page__pid__595457854#entry595457854

 

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Reply #63 January 17, 2013 7:42:51 AM
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That clinches it! No more cookies for Java!

Now I'm glad I got rid of Java. Maybe I'll switch to tea. lol

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Reply #64 January 17, 2013 8:22:09 AM
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Maybe I'll switch to tea. lol

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Reply #65 January 17, 2013 11:36:50 AM
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I could use a good cup o' Joe about now.

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Reply #66 January 17, 2013 3:39:10 PM
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I have a Windows 8 and upon reading this thread decided it best to uninstall Java.

Now I'm getting pop-ups from Oracle asking me to let them in.

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Reply #67 January 17, 2013 4:10:59 PM
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lulapilgrim... get rid of the notification module as well.

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Reply #68 January 17, 2013 6:46:06 PM
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I have a friend who has Java on his laptop and he gets these popups telling him that Java has an update. I just told him to unistall it completely. Seems to me Oracle has their work cut out for them. OH S**T........................what about all those washing machines and dryers and radios and toasters and newfangled ovens and such. They're gonna hack your washer and steal all your duds. Don't cook your din din! Turn off the radio, leave your car home and take the shoe leather express instead and.........you can stop me at any time now.

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Reply #69 January 17, 2013 10:50:06 PM
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Billions of devices.  Billions.

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Reply #70 January 18, 2013 5:15:06 AM
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i would worry more about those older mobile phones that use java for menus or what not

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Reply #71 January 18, 2013 6:38:33 AM
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Talk about topsy-turvy and then some. What if these guys hack into the wrong thing and screw their stuff up. They most likely have stuff that uses Java too. I'd love to see it come and bite them where the sun don't shine.

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Reply #72 January 18, 2013 11:19:01 AM
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I have a Windows 8 and upon reading this thread decided it best to uninstall Java.

Now I'm getting pop-ups from Oracle asking me to let them in.

Got the popup again not long after turning on my computer. It asks will I allow Oracle America, Inc. to make changes to this program,  jucheck.exe ? 

A couple of questions, keeping in mind that I am a dinosaur about all these technical things.

I wonder is Oracle America, Inc someone who would benefit from having Java uninstalled?

Also I did not use the disable Java download that you offered but instead went to the uninstall program and uninstalled Java that way.

Is Java something that automatically comes with brand new computers because I certainly didn't tell the tech to install it?

Like most everything else computerwise, Java was just there and I gave it no never mind. Never had to update it or anything!

 

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Reply #73 January 18, 2013 11:54:02 AM
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I think Java is present on most machines as OEM software and it is made by Oracle America.  The fact that it popped up after uninstalling Java suggests that jucheck.exe is 1) still there, and 2) set to start on boot up.

Oracle America, Inc., is the company's name, but I've never seen them refer to themselves as anything but "Oracle" in dialogs & such (but I don't have Win8).  jucheck.exe should have been deleted when Java was uninstalled (it was here), so I'd just search for the file & manually delete it.  You might want to disable it from starting up at boot first to avoid getting a 'missing app' error message later on boot up (not sure).

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Reply #74 January 18, 2013 1:04:12 PM
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jucheck will go when Java is uninstalled. Its part of the Java package to remind you that updates are available. If one pops up just close out of it. A window will open up where the quick launch is on the right side of your taskbar asking if you want to update Java. That you can just close. Don't click on the window itself as that will give it the go-ahead to update Java.

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Reply #75 January 18, 2013 5:34:33 PM
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Thank you Daiwa and Uvah.

I've been talking now to members of my family about Java and apparently those with Norton have already been notified and the problem solved! I have AVG and no such thing at least that I'm aware of.   

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