OK...let them demonstrate their understanding/competence and/or social responsibility and voluntarily profer ALL their multi-shot semi-autos, etc for destruction.
Not gonna happen. They don't need to prove anything to anyone. They are already proving those things by securing their weapons. They cannot be held responsible/punished for the actions of a few. If we're gonna go down this road turn in your car to be crushed so no 6 year olds or whole classrooms can get run over by some whack job behind the wheel.
'vast majority' is all well and good....them being competent and responsible and all...but we're talking tens of millions of gun owners.....and even 'the vast majority' subtracted from that leaves a SERIOUS SHIT_LOAD of fuckers out there who are GOING TO do more of this.
No argument there...we have a serious shitload of whack jobs running around thanks to our ridiculous health care plan called...."we can't afford to take care of these whack jobs so let them all go home and walk the streets unsupervised"...and those are just the ones we know about.
The ONLY way to prevent recurrence is to limit a gun-owner's capacity to mass-kill .... no matter whether he's a brain-dead fucker or the Pope....he NEEDS control. If that is across-the-board control then so be it. If it affects the 'responsible gun owner' as much as any other....well, tough tits, because IF it prevents further 6 year-olds dying in a classroom I SAY THAT's WORTH IT.
Again...turn in your car to be crushed so no 6 year olds or whole classrooms on they're way to a bus or anyone else for that matter can get run over by some whack job or drunk behind the wheel. Then we ban alcohol completely across the board...because obviously some people can't handle their alcohol and people are dying out there...
America has to live with these mass-shootings as a russian-roulette way of life. It is the price of your current 'freedom' to "bear arms".
Nothing any pro-gun person has said here in this thread is a solution to it....Mental Health? America can't even accept the idea of 'free health care' so you'll never have better mental care/support if you imagine the whakos are going to 'cure themselves'.
We have to live with a lot of things...but these mass shootings are not the norm here...anymore than elsewhere. Gun owners don't like what's happening...
And the plan any gun owner will tell you is stop selling guns to the damn wackos! Gun owners are not happy with what's happening either...but they aren't the ones doing the shooting. The live just fine with they're so-called love affair with fire arms until some whack job goes off his rocker and kills someone. And taking their guns away IS NOT going to stop 6 year old kids from some nut job that gets it in his head to kill them...1 or 20...it doesn't matter...1 is 1 to many...anyone would agree with that. Take away semi automatics and they'll carry 3 guns and still take out a bunch of people...or a gas can with an explosive attached to it...a pipe bomb...or whatever other idea they come up with...guns are not the only way of killing mass amounts of people. Ok...take away the guns...now gas cans & fuel are very easy to get...no waiting period...no background checks...and hop across to the next state will get you enough "harmless" explosives to blow the thing up. Damn...now I'll need a permit and background check to just get gas! Or buy a gas can! And on and on it goes...
The 'control' you currently have IS NOT WORKING. You cannot refute that - there are too many bodies as evidence.
It's simple logic....so damn simple it defies comprehension that anyone cannot see it....
Agreed...there needs to be better control of guns from beginning to end...I've always said that. But it's still not that simple. We pride our freedoms here and like it or not we're not going to start giving them up because of a few nut job...and we wouldn't expect any less from you...we'd fight for your freedom to live your life in a responsible manner of your choosing.
And the thing is Paul...we don't have the control your referring to...if we had it and not the government I'd be willing to bet these things would not be happening that often if at all. Tobacco kills more people each year than guns...they know it...they acknowledge it...but they still sell it. If it were up to me it would be banned.
Firearms in Norway are regulated by the Firearm Weapons Act, with a new secondary law in effect 1 July 2009 providing more detailed regulation. The act covers all firearms, air pressure weapons, and some "exotic arms" as the act defines. All weapons that would be regulated must have two things in common: they must eject a projectile mechanically and use some form of propellant to perform the ejection. The act includes military type weapons, flare guns, and easily manufactured replicas that can be converted to working firearms. Guns owned and operated under the responsibility of the armed forces and the police are excepted from the civilian weapons act.
Yet Anders Behring Breivik was able to kill "69" people, "mostly teenagers". He was convicted of mass murder, "and" causing a fatal explosion, and terrorism in August 2012