I am sure you could if you tried. I can easily prove most of your facts are in error … hum, did you give any facts at all?
1. The burden of proof is on you, you naffing idiot. YOU made the claim that you consider Moore's film to be factual, whilst I disputed that. Thus, you must provide the proof that Moore's film is indeed factually valid.
2. I have presented no facts, because the burden of proof is not on me.
Seems pretty unclear to you though. How am I supposed to take this seriously, hehehe. I believe everyone here is aware of your feelings for the movie and the person.
My description and/or feelings regarding Moore's film and person are only relevant to the debate insofar as they provide evidence for my position that said film is factually invalid and that Moore is an incompetent moron.
ok you got me here ... I just cannot do it ... but if you want to talk probability here, I'd say about 99.9999999%. I cannot go that last 1/10,000,000th yet. You do not need my help in this endeavor is all? I know you do not agree with me and I have no idea why anyone would fake simpletonism? Never seen anyone so hungry for “incontrovertibly proof” … aren’t we all?
My challenge is by definition unanswerable, because you can't prove I'm a simpleton for disagreeing with you. Further, that you continue to hold said opinion only illustrates just how truly naffing stupid you really are. I'm not a simpleton, you're simply an idiot.
As for the "proof" part, the burden of proof is still on you. The ball is in your court, so to speak.
Sounds like the perfect reason to believe the USG for sure.
You'll note that I've never actually said I trust and/or believe anything the US government says. I've said that I'd trust Bush more than Michael Moore, but I still wouldn't trust Bush that much, because I have a basic distrust of politicians in general.
BTW, the technical term for this statement of yours is "spin doctoring". It's exactly the same thing Moore does, so I'd say you did learn something from his fallacious and factually invalid film.
… within American policy ???… Rapidly degenerating into uselessness …where you been for the last 50 or 60 posts??? Lastly, who are the degenerates … indeed?
For one thing, there was some satirical commentary in that comment. That you fail to realize it only proves you're stupidity. For another, this thread is rapidly degenerating into uselessness because in the OP you claim that the majority of information presented in Moore's film is factually correct.
I'm disputing that, and you have, to date, provided zero information that disproves my position.
WRT the "degenerates", that would be you. For several reasons:
1. You insult people with a veneer of civility. This is drawn back to the "gutter language" comment of yours and the fact that you continue to consider those who hold the opposing viewpoint to yours to be "simpletons".
2. You're guilty of numerous logical fallacies, including:
2a. Ad Hominem Attack: you call your opposition simpletons instead of actually trying to disprove their claims.
2b. Style Over Substance: you consider my arguments invalid because of my use of "gutter language".
2c. Strawman: you're pretty much ignoring the actual debate in favor of some ridiculous one you've concocted.
2d. Hasty Generalization: you take the small group of definable events in which the USG is wrong, and use them to say "USG is always lying and wrong".
I'd say that that more than proves you're an idiot.
You have got to be joking ... right? How is anyone supposed to take you seriously, go figure.
No, my dad really was part of the vanguard during the 2003 invasion. However, this statement is a perfect example of a dishonest debating tactic called "cherry-picking". Because, you naffing idiot, you are taking the statement out of context.
If you had bothered to read past that sentence, or actually pay attention to the context, then you would realize that at the time I had little understanding of politics in general, and hence my reason for supporting the 2003 invasion was because my father was a servicemember who was part of the invasion force.
It's not that hard to understand, you naffing idiot.
Whiskey...there are no Elemental people here....their still trying to get their game to work. On second thought , maybe between OOM crashes.
You're an idiot. On the first page alone of this thread, I count five people posting from the Elemental forums, excluding yourself. Top it off with a sixth person on the second page, and the fact that three of the five from the 1st page continued posting from the Elemental forums.
I'd also like to ask you about this comment, from earlier in the thread:
whiskey...when all else fails,start the name calling. You showed your true colors, it usually doesn't take long.
And where else have I conversed with you, hmm? TBH, I don't recall ever seeing a post by you, let alone holding a conversation or debate with you. Because AFAIK, I have never posted stuff back and forth with you, so as far as I'm concerned, you don't know jack shit about me.