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gmc2

Join Date 11/2003

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morning boot time

In the morning I turn on my computer, turn on the coffee pot, feed the cat, etc.

by the time the coffee is made my pc is still booting up. sometimes it takes as long as 20 minutes to boot, seems excessive.

anyone else having this time delay.

rebooting during the day takes less time, usually under 5 minutes.

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gmc2

Join Date 11/2003

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Quoting Robbie_Boy,

reply 48

Hey GMC2

what program do you use for checking your files and reg files...?

files, just the av program and disk defrag usually checks for fragmented files, nothing that checks for relevancy.

reg: nothing, but I will go in a remove program references that are no longer valid.

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do I need to do this?

To be perfectly honest, I doubt it. Your CPU die model is supported and the memory issue is marginal. If this machine ran fine when you bought it and it hasn't changed hardware-wise, I'd do a fresh install of Windows. You're in overkill mode on security and have screwed around with files enough that something in the software column is probably hanging it. Do the basic Windows install and time the boot, if it's still slow, than address the bios issue

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gmc2

Join Date 11/2003

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thank you yrag, your help has been much appreciated.

Oh, one last thing. I upgraded to win7 from vista and bought the computer with vista installed. what problems can I expect.

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DrJBHL

Join Date 04/2002

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Maybe that's the reason for the hang, too.... Upgrade vs Clean Install.

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Uvah

Join Date 05/2006

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I'd do a clean install, start fresh with no excess baggage hanging around. Make sure you back up everything first though.

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Robbie_Boy

Join Date 03/2005

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Yeah start clean install....

then install AVG 2011 and a program like Tuneup utilities(to fix small probs with system)........ Or Norton 360 is great!!! $$$ for this one.

Hope all goes well for ya mate...

I'm using AVG and Tuneup Utilities (both 2011) they seem to have a smaller foot print on System.... than most others!!!

And as i said before my system boots up in 22-24 seconds with Skype and MSN ready

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Lantec

Join Date 07/2003

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Oh, one last thing. I upgraded to win7 from vista and bought the computer with vista installed. what problems can I expect.

I'd try to backup everything to a second physical hard drive if you have one....if not then make sure to backup all your data at least.

Download the drivers you'll need before you start the re-install process and copy them to a cd or flash drive.

Put n your Win 7 DVD and run the setup.exe Make sure to choose the "Custom" installation when you're asked what kind of installation you want.

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navigatsio

Join Date 07/2004

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What Lantec said...and remember, kiddos, if you don't know what a program does, you probably don't need it taking up space on your HD.

(psssst....I've been using Avira over AVG...lighter footprint....uses a lot less resources...less false positives...catches all the bugs and it's a freebie...just saying)

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Put n your Win 7 DVD and run the setup.exe Make sure to choose the "Custom" installation when you're asked what kind of installation you want.

Do not do that.

Oh, one last thing. I upgraded to win7 from vista and bought the computer with vista installed. what problems can I expect.

Is this an OEM or do you have a Win 7 key?

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gmc2

Join Date 11/2003

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Is this an OEM or do you have a Win 7 key?

it's a home professional upgrade and I have the product key.

I think it's time to re-install. had to go to a restore point to load windows just now, not getting any better.. I have a 400gig external that I can transfer data to, plenty of room.

never doing this before, what should I do. should I copy the whole c:/ drive over or just the data files, figure I'll have to reload all the programs anyhow, oh joy, but at least...

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Ok... only save pics, music, documents and such. Forget everything else. Once they're on the external, unplug it.

You're now going to do a full, clean install of Win 7.

Boot to Win 7 DVD. Use it to format your drive. Pick Custom install. DO NOT TYPE IN KEY NUMBER. Un-check Activate on connection and Do not check for Updates. Install Win 7. Once it is complete, it will give you 30 days to Activate.

Now you're going to upgrade from Win 7 to Win 7.

From within Windows, insert Win 7 DVD and hit 'Upgrade'. This go around you type in key number, check for updates and activate on connection.

After Windows installs the second time and is activated open Disk cleanup/ Cleanup Sytem Files and delete all setup files.

You are now the proud parent of a full clean install of Win 7.

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Put n your Win 7 DVD and run the setup.exe Make sure to choose the "Custom" installation when you're asked what kind of installation you want.

Do not do that.

With apologies to Lantec that was served too cold....should have said: That's correct, but wait for full procedure.

.....you still love me, right Honey?

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Lantec

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gmc2

Join Date 11/2003

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I'll do this in the morning after coffee, and what about drivers for video card, sound drivers and other devices? Like I mentioned this is a new thing for me, should be entertaining, but...

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drivers for video card, sound drivers and other devices?

You don't need any...Win 7 will find and install all of them. Let it.

The double install takes about an hour (2nd upgrade install takes about 15 minutes longer than the fresh first)......

...... and you'll be up and running.

Now, here's my closing advice: invest in a backup program and you'll never have to do this again. Other then Windows ME (I threw the whole fuckin' computer away just to get any trace of ME out of the shop) I have never re-installed an operating system even after hardware failure (and I've been known for blowing up more than a few).

http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/

Food for thought.

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Uvah

Join Date 05/2006

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Gremlins stole my response. I'm asking yrag why a double install. Soon as I click the post reply boom ... I get the EGADS page.

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gmc2

Join Date 11/2003

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well, here we go wish me luck,see ya on the other side.

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Lantec

Join Date 07/2003

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You don't need any...Win 7 will find and install all of them.

My bad.....I was thinking about chipset drivers. I also had issues with card readers and bluetooth that MS couldn't cover.

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I'm asking yrag why a double install

With a Win 7 upgrade DVD, you must install within Windows with Vista installed along with every mistake it and you have made to it. Double Win 7 install is to a virgin disk and only Win 7 files are replacing Win 7 files....and you're not involved in it.

Simply put.... if you bought a Win7 upgrade DVD and wanted a fresh install, you'd have to re-install Vista first.....

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gmc2

Join Date 11/2003

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well that was friggin' easy. I even booted twice from the dvd to see if I could muck it up, it didn't.

thanks for all the advice and help from everyone and especially Gary (yrag), what can I say but, "you're the Man".

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navigatsio

Join Date 07/2004

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wish me luck

Good luck....I don't think you'll have a problem though. As long as you read the information provided throughout the install process and make the right selections, it should be a breeze. Some hardware/driver incompatibilities are mostly what I've seen cause problems or as Lantec advised, may wanna keep your drivers handy...just in case.

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navigatsio

Join Date 07/2004

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Opps...never mind above. Congrats on the install!!!

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gmc2

Join Date 11/2003

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first morning boot after re-install and it took forever, 6+ minutes but it booted. system and avg took 3 minutes alone.

on the good side, it did boot, I have a fresh install of windows, my apps have been pared down, everything loaded okay and I was able to switch from eudora to outlook, long story... (entering addresses will be a pain but the wife says she'll help if I put them in a spreadsheet for her).

Impulse Now is more than slightly obnoxious (resident evil) glad it can be turned off. AVG was doing some type of updating every time I had to reboot and changing some settings took care of that.

notice a lot of differences from win7 installed over vista and from a clean win7 install, HELP, where's the tool bar in window's explorer and is there a way to have my user folder expand upon opening?

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Jafo

Join Date 03/2001

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"(and I've been known for blowing up more than a few)."

HA!!!!!

Et tu, Brute? .....

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2of3

Join Date 10/2006

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notice a lot of differences from win7 installed over vista and from a clean win7 install, HELP, where's the tool bar in window's explorer

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