Errm, yeah, I am basically just talking. It's just all of the not knowing what to expect. You know, where do we go from here, will there be a "kiss moment," (I know that sounds pathetically like a romantic film, but again, how should I know?) or will one of us openly say how we feel?

1. I'm not wholly sure. We've only really been out once tbh, we've both been really busy this term, but we're trying to meet up in the new year.

You know what, how about I just start from the beginning, and all these questions should be answered.

Over the summer, I went on a choral course. Basically a week-long music camp (one of the most prestigious in the country, I may add! ) with looots of singing, and lots of like-minded people. Now, on the course itself, we didn't really know each other much. We were in the same group of friends by the end of the week, but we didn't know each other that personally. That, of course, was how we both got to know each other "musically," too, because we both did solo performances during the concerts near the end of the week. I performed "The Spirit's Song" by Haydn, if you're interested. Anyway, she performed one of her own songs. Both of our solo performances really went down well, so we were both "faces to remember."

We really got to know each other near the end of the summer holidays, when about ten of us got together from the course to go to a concert in London. She was one of about four of those people who I didn't know so well, so naturally I got to know her, though I actually ended up talking to her much more than I did with the others. Anyway, I mentioned to those present that I was going to be singing on national TV, on a programme called "Songs of Praise," (a predominantly Christian programme on a Sunday evening, and it's got lots of singing and reflects on things, such as on how we can work to heal the wounds of 9/11) and that it was the 9/11 memorial that I was singing for. Of all of the people there, she was the only one who showed much of an interest beyond "that's nice," so that's how we got in contact after the event.

She messaged me over facebook that she'd seen me on the programme, and so we got talking by text, then by email too, and near the end of that half term about twice by phone. So we were (and still are) in really constant contact, despite the issues presented by her being busy and living in London, and me being busy and living a fair way outside of the city. So the next step up was in October. We were kind of planning another course reunion, and chose a day. While she was away for various reasons, I contacted the various people who had shown an interest, but it rapidly transpired that we were the only two who could make it.

Naturally, the various other course friends who I was in contact with found this rather amusing. I got a fair few messages saying "I bet it could really work out between you two." By this stage I already thought I quite liked her, though I was of course tentative, especially seeing as we hadn't met up alone yet. I mean, I have never had a girlfriend, nor I think anybody who I like in that way, until now. I had a phase sometime when I was like 12/13 when I was attracted to the idea of a girlfriend, mainly from social pressure, but beyond that I've never really got into that scene. And anyway, there's never been much in terms of relationships amongst my peers, just either mutual (and one sided!) exploitation and an attraction to the prestige.

But I digress. Needless to say, there was no real reunion anymore. So, I rang her up and said that the reunion wouldn't be happening, but then I popped the question of whether she would want to meet up in London with me. She was enthusiastic about the whole idea, so we found a good concert and went for it. And that was a very good night out for both involved.

Since then, we've been mainly texting (though they're pretty damn long texts!) and talking by phone about once a fortnight, though these are one hour conversations we're talking about. We're also back to emails too, and in case you were wondering they're about 2000 words each. The emails are useful too, because we send each other various bits of music we've composed, in her case songs she's written, in my case more classical things. Anyway, where we're up to now is getting together in January.

So, how do I feel, impressions, etc. Well, I must say I do really like her. I mean, I just find her to be an amazing person, and we get on really well. She finds me funny, which helps. As for how I think she feels about me, well she does spend an awful lot of time on me, between all these phone calls, texts and emails. And as I said, our night out in London went really well, or so I thought. And she is really, really keen on the idea of us meeting up again. That or she's a good actor.

Basically, I am certainly a very good friend, and I can't imagine that she's treating me as just a friend, because she knows enough boys to know not to lead people on by accident. And she doesn't seem to be one of those girls who is like that with everybody.

I suppose I just don't know what to expect, that's why I feel a need to talk about it. Then again, I don't think she does either, so it's a journey of discovery for us both!

At the moment I'm taking the approach of seeing what happens next time we meet.

PS I predict a response, and it will say...

"tl;dr"

Good call.

"Sure girl. Of course you can touch my stash "

Wait what? I didnt say that!

If you were in Greece, everyone would think that you are a priest, especially if you wore black clothing

But to be completely honest, I dont think that girls are into guys with beards and mustaches, at least from what I've seen so far in my life. No offense of course.

Trust me, when you will fall in love with a girl, there would be absolutely no doubt in your mind that you truly love her. But until then, good luck

So it may very well be a simple infatuation, judging from the way you are describing it.

Yes yes, they certainly help quite a lot, and I would also like to add the Twilight Saga, its so popular among girls.

...I was joking?

^This.

I've just been busy Morph and I haven't really had anything to say. I as you have probably noticed am not good with long in-depth posts.

...................That's oddly close to how it went, actually. Alas, she's Catholic, and I vehemently disagree with the Catholic church.

Deal-breaker.

................

Would this get me free moneys?

I think it depends. Some girls don't like it (my sister hates my mustache), some do.

No offense taken, BTW.

I dunno- looking back, I realize several things:

1. First time I saw my guitar friend, my initial impression was "my God she's beautiful and I want to know more about her".
2. Over time, her beauty has mysteriously increased- and not due to any effort on her own part.
3. Over time, I've gotten to know her better, and realize that we have a few common interests and I absolutely love chatting with her.
4. Not joking when I say that before we left for the high school camp, her mom asked me to keep an eye on her (that is, guitar friend's mom asked me to keep an eye on guitar friend).
5. Finally, she inspired me to holiness. Might not make much sense to anyone else, but this is actually something that's really important to me.

So I think that is was more than infatuation, but probably less than "I want to spend the rest of my life with you" love.

This being said, apparently I may very well have a high probability of win with the other girl that I mentioned (we'll call her my 'wavy friend', I think. I'm open to suggestions though):

1. When we first met, she introduced herself- not only that, she did so on her own.
2. Despite the fact that she knows no other guys on Security, without fail, she'll say hi and wave (or just wave if she's unable to say hi, like if she's riding in a car) to me, and me alone. It's further worth noting that, AFAIK, I'm the only guy she does this with.

So who knows. Maybe she'll be the girl*.

*Not to be confused with "that girl", the female version of "that guy". A "that girl/guy" is usually someone who has a special-snowflake Mary-Sue character in RPGs, or who tries to powergame out the wazoo.

There was actually an interesting story behind each of those. Except Twilight. Luckily, neither girl has much interest in Twilight- guitar friend prefers Pirates of the Caribbean, whilst wavy friend likes Jane Austen novels**.

**So I should probably just suck it up and pick up a couple. Or maybe find an e-book version on the freer side of cheap.

Anyways, SNICKERS STORY:

First day in the high school group of the church I attend (and now also work at), I stand up, intro'd myself to the rest of the group (which is a couple hundred people), and got a nifty gift bag with a pen, some contact info, and a Snickers candy bar.

I don't like Snickers.

So after the service, I turn to the girl next to me, introduce myself&ask if she likes Snickers (she does), and give her the Snickers bar. And learn she's on Facebook.

That's probably my only Just. As. Planned. moment. EVAR. She's still a friend, but it came to nothing. Still, valuable info- Snickers can be one of many ways to a woman's heart.

TRANSFORMERS STORY:

First time I met guitar friend, we get to talking about the Transformers movies- neither of us particularly care for Megan Fox in the films; she liked the movies because of the transforming robots bit. My own preference was for the "awesome robots fighting each other in epic brawls of awesomeness" [later embellishment, DID NOT SAY THAT at the time].

I end up suggesting, and afterwards loaning, a book to her [the Screwtape Letters, if you're interested]. She likes it quite a bit- it's funny though, because she technically never returned it; she got sick and her sister got it back to me instead. First time I knew she had siblings- and I initially thought her sister was older [as in college-age older]! This was back last winter, and it was until the beginning of summer that I found out that her sister was actually younger.

^This.

You do know I beat you to the punch, right?

I would so watch that.

Except I have to work Monday nights this month. Can you reschedule it for Thursdays, per'aps?

I now hate you because you are successful with your guitar friend /sarcasm.

Also, have this Ke$ha video. Fast-forward to about 3:20, the rest is fairly irrelevant.

Catholic, so...that means no sexual relations prior to marriage?

Well, thats Bull in my book. If you are serious with a girl, and planning on marrying her or at least heading to that direction, why should you restrain yourself (and her) like that?

Deal-breaker indeed.

No, unless you were to perform the Sunday ceremony at church or perform a wedding or something. I assure you, if you did your job right, nobody would find out that you never finished church school. Then again, we are Christian Orthodox in greece, so I highly doubt that you would be able to do any of the above so...no

Good to know.

1. A good sign about serious infatuation.

2. Suspicious, very suspicious, if you know what I mean. Maybe she's more beautiful to you, but she's the same actually. But you already knew that of course.

3. Meh, can happen with anyone.

4. Maybe your mustache and beard make you seem like a trustworthy guy, or her mom just likes you and trusts you to be with her daughter?

5. Very suspicious as well.

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But although those (1-5) are all really good points, they are from a logical point of view, which is irrelevant to the matter imo. If you love her, you just love her and thats about it.

Its even possible for one to love another, even if they cant stand being with them, due to disagreements, annoyances, and other inconveniences.

Other than that, I do have to agree with you on the "more than infatuation, but probably less than 'I want to spend the rest of my life with you' love" part Certainly seems that way.

Oh Whiskey, you silly dog, trying to hit 2 girls at the same time!

Maybe 'wavy girl' wants to get to know you a little better? Why dont you give her the chance, whats the worst thing that can happen?

*10 years later*

- Whiskey marries wavy girl -

Uhm...yeah sorry pal   Shit happens

But seriously, how well do you know her? If you dont know her, maybe you could hang out with her. Who knows? Maybe you'll like her more than your guitar friend.

Maybe she'll be the girl, indeed

LOL, you didnt have to clarify/explain that one, but thanks anyway

DAMN! I totally didnt see that one coming, haha

That was WIN, right there.

I usually dont watch movies just because there's hot girls in it, there are adult films that can do that job better

I expected to read here, "she absolutely loved that book, so she decided to keep it, even though I loaned it to her!"

lol

ROFLMAO

Yep, but I just had to say it

Nope. Premier Episodes are always on Mondays, but you could watch the repeat on Fridays.

The whole thing is awesome. The song, Ke$ha, the video, Ke$ha, the beat of the music, Ke$ha, and everything about it

I like Ke$ha, did I say that?

It's more theological. As in, among others, the Catholic belief that you should "pray to Mary" if you really want something because "she's more forgiving/loving", and Christ would listen to her as she was His earthly mother.............well, when it comes down to it, that's pretty much spitting in the face of Christ and saying that Mary's more loving than He is despite the fact that it was Christ who paid the penalty for all of mankind's sins. Mary didn't do squat when it came to forgiving sins.

Uh, because the Bible says that sex is reserved for the institution of marriage?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's it.

Given that of my entire immediate family, only my dad knows (ancient) Greek, and even then, only how to read/translate it............. yeah, that's not going to happen.

Not really. Right now I'm more interested in solidifying my friendship with guitar friend. I think I'm going to take the jump and ask wavy friend out to lunch sometime. As in, ask her today, for lunch anytime.

....................

When did I ever give the impression that I thought a life with wavy friend would be a bad thing?

*shakes fist at Morph*

Quite honestly- the music for that video, I like quite a bit. The only part of the actual video, I liked, however, was the shootout and the unicorns bleeding rainbows.

IT WAS AWESOME.

So you'd be a reservist, then.

.........................wow.

And I thought that the amount of stupid contained in a person couldn't reach new heights.

GO LIMEY MAN!

Hey, I have a new name for your guitar friend! LIMEY GIRL!

ALL MY RAGE
ALL MY FUREH
REDEH DE STEEL REHN

..............

Memes aside, I am seriously pissed off right now. Because I just met my guitar friend's might-be-boyfriend-guy; we'll call him............hold on a minute, I have to think of something that's not crude, vulgar, or uses swearing, whilst still sufficiently expressing my supreme dislike of him.

............

............

............

Okay, I'm back. I've got it- "punchbag". Alright, so, I go and see my guitar friend to chat, and who could that be who just walked up?

That's right, punchbag. Keeping in mind, that, initially, I didn't particularly care for him, but neither did I like him. But he just had to hail me, and pretty much asked whether or not I was interested in guitar friend in a more romantic fashion.

My answer? "She's just my friend". I asked him if they were together- he seemed to think so. Perhaps this is something to ask her- especially in front of him. After all, if she gives a different answer, that could be most amusing..........

I think I should feel bad that I want to crush this boy's heart in a merciless grip, but right now I'm too bloody-minded to care.......

Anyways, back on track. He then goes on to tell me that he's been 'backing off' to give her 'room to grow'- and indirectly suggests I do the same. If it weren't for the fact that it would be very un-Christian of me, and sadly more important at this stage that it would have been in front of literally dozens of people, I would've seriously considered flipping the bird at this punk-[DOUBLE CENSORED] .

Apparently, he also thinks he can tell me that if I break guitar friend's heart, he'll break me- AFTER I TOLD HIM THAT SAME THING.

You can't do that. Know why? At this point, I'm far more interested, to the point that it's my sole interest WRT guitar friend, in solidifying my friendship with guitar friend- AND I FREAKING SAID SO. He, OTOH, seems to be interested in forming a romantic relationship with her- or at least, he is seriously thinking about it and would like it to happen.

I'm not going to lie, I'd be ecstatic if God's sovereignty caused me to end up in a romantic relationship with guitar friend. But that's not what I want right now.

So here I am, planning out how I'm going to put punchbag in his place, as well as extenuating circumstances for his disappearance that would allow me to remain completely un-implicated. After all, it's not that hard to get a vehicle to transport a big sack of potatoes, say, 6' long, 2' wide, 1' deep, and about 50-70 kilograms. And a shovel. For once, I'm glad I live on a street where the neighbors have no sense of courtesy and park the cars, of which they have too many, freaking everywhere.

On top of that, this plan:

fell through because wavy friend was not there today. Shitty day is shitty.

So right now I'm busy planning on how to get punchbag to put his hand on me (NOT THAT WAY), repeatedly, so I can claim self defense when I snap his elbow and send him to the ground crying like the little bitch he is.

Oh dear, I seem to have written that out. Fuck it, I'm fucking pissed, and I don't care. I want to rip his heart out, and crush it in my iron grip in as merciless and cruel a fashion as possible*.

ALL.

MY.

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE.

*Perhaps I should take up "Chaos Lord" as an occupation?

GET OUT

...............

See, that just wouldn't be as satisfying as feeling blood and brains flow between my fingers as..........I.........

..............

Well, you get the idea. For some reason I don't think I should finish that image. If you disagree, say so.

No idea- what really rubbed me the wrong way was the idea that I should 'let her grow', as if I was holding her back. He also seemed to insinuate the opposite as well- that by remaining friends with her, I was holding myself back.

Punchbag is a total punk.

I'm going to straight-up say, AGAIN, that right now I'm only intending on pursuing a friendship with guitar friend. That said, I really really really really REALLY don't like punchbag. My dislike for him would never have happened, if he just didn't decide "I should tell this other guy to leave her alone because of whatever bullshit reason I (punchbag) decided to concoct".

............Also, the plan to make punchbag mysteriously disappear is... tenuous. Unfinalized. A more permanent, if inelegant, solution. And right now I don't need it.

.....................

Yet.

Maybe.

.................

This is why I need to arrange for time for just me and her to chat as friends. Alas, this is proving difficult. *sigh* Fuck it. I'm going to just send her an email, and then give her my number so that we can arrange a meet.

Her falling for another guy isn't really the problem I have- it's the fact that punchbag had this 'holier-than-thou' attitude when he addressed me, as well as the fact that he seems to, as you pointed out, have an "I own her" attitude.

Unfortunately, you revealing that possibility of the "I own her" attitude in punchbag makes me want to hurt him even more.

I'm going to start thinking on homemade flails and maces- particularly the former. Mostly because I've realized that a properly sized infantry warhammer would be inconveniently large to fit into a messenger bag. A mace would likely be similar, but a flail? I bet I could get a flail into a messenger bag, easily, and still have room for:

2 towels
1 Lifehammer vehicle escape tool
3-5 fully-charged sparkplugs
2-5 rolls of duct tape
1 set of boltcutters
1-3 smoke grenades
1-2 Irritant gas grenades
0-1 poison gas grenades
0-2 incendiary grenades
0-1 "Four-Winds" shotgun
Various papers allowing me to open combo locks in >=5 minutes, unlock keyless car entries, get a beverage like a boss, get change from a vending machine (PROFIT!)

As it stands, I'll probably have to skip most of the grenades and take the minimum of duct tape.

......................

What? You think it's nutty to carry all that around? Come on, it's not that bad. I mean, the poison gas grenade is a bit OTT, and maybe the incendiaries are as well, but the rest of it? Totally useful. Especially with a short shirt of mail.

A wormhole opened up and suddenly I'm in Days Of Our Lives......

WTF....well...ok.

That was random