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Mail is another story, its a lot lighter than full plate armor, and I am pretty sure you arent a big muscular trained knight, no offense of course

5'4" master race reporting /lulz.

Quoting morpheas768,

You meant that your heart is getting better?

Yes.

Quoting morpheas768,

About the license plates and address, unless you have a cop friend, I dont see it being done legally and without costing money.

............This is the uncomfortable part where I say that my boss, who I am on good terms with, is a retired cop- but isn't involved in what I had in mind.

Quoting morpheas768,

I dont see it being done legally and without costing money.

...........I never said anything about legality.

That is all.

Quoting morpheas768,

Ok, seriously now: You want to write her an anonymous letter, to see if she will figure out its you, AND to call you without you having to call her? You also want to find out her address without - you know- her actually giving you her address?? Whats the deal here? This is like ultra-strange

First off, the call is more a 'nice if it happens' thing- the anonymous letter is more because of the fact that it's going to be pretty obvious who I am- there's a few things that have happened between myself and her that only she and I would know about.

Secondly, the address thing is a matter of convenience and last resort- my intention is to pay off a random person on Sunday, after church, to hand-deliver the letter to her. Said random person will not know me.

Alas, doing so will require that I evacuate post-haste, thus eliminating any chance to interact with her on that day, when I already have a limited enough interaction with her.

Quoting morpheas768,

Basically you want her phone number and address, and you want those things without her willingly and knowingly giving them to you...right

Hm? No- as I said, return call is a perk, and the address is a last resort. That the address is required to be anonymously acquired without alerting her is more a case of me preferring people not know I am looking into their personal information.

After all, 'For such is my want- those dark gifts of knowledge and power' [excerpted from Cyberworld, from The Puzzle that is Me collection, TBP].

Quoting morpheas768,

Are you sure about that?

Literally, prior to the end of this past July and the beginning of August, I would see her between 1 and 2 times per week- and generally only be able to chat for, at most, 20 minutes. Not a lot of time. The time I was able to spend in majority with her was during summer camp at the end of July- and now I am able to see her sometimes once a week, and only once every other week do I have an actual opportunity to engage her in conversation.

Quoting morpheas768,

I think you play too much Dragon Age, my friend!

Lulzy, but untrue. There actually is a bulletproof vest that's called "Dragon Skin", named as such for the overlapping, almost scale-like arrangement of the protective components of the armor.

Quoting morpheas768,

Really good song, even those its not exactly the type of songs I usually listen to

Have another repost of a piece I've mentioned prior to your return:

My favorite line-

All I ever wanted, all I ever needed,

is right here, in my arms-

Words are very, unnecessary,

They can only do harm.

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Quoting morpheas768,

reply 1575

Hmm, where did Altaux, Xer07 and Shiro have gone? Did they all leave this place for good?

As for Storm and IFear, looking at the previous page I see that they post occasionally, but really, what's happened since I've been gone? Give me the short version if possible

Just a little update would be nice.

Long ages of inactivity interspersed with discussion, typically short and very topical. Last couple of pages is the first I've seen of IFear in a long time- Storm pops in occasionally, but generally it's just me, Oatesy, Krdax, and 'the new kid', Nilles.

Shiro and Alt, your guess is as good as mine- Xer07, NO FREAKIN' IDEA. I'd say Xer07 is gone for good- or at least for so long that if he comes back he'll be a complete stranger.

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Quoting Whiskey144,

Eh, different. Right now, I'm actually more interested in solidifying my friendship with this girl than trying to woo her.

Also, 'woo' is a strange word.

Woo her LMAO That was a good one!

But if I recall correctly, thats how Xer07 started in the first place. He wanted to be friends with her, and then to...woo her like you say

Its like they say: "Once you're in the friend zone..."

Quoting Whiskey144,

............This is the uncomfortable part where I say that my boss, who I am on good terms with, is a retired cop- but isn't involved in what I had in mind.

So I guess he cant do it?

Quoting Whiskey144,

...........I never said anything about legality.

That is all.

Got any connections with the 'underworld' ? Can you hack the police database?

I would guess the answer is no-no.

Quoting Whiskey144,

First off, the call is more a 'nice if it happens' thing- the anonymous letter is more because of the fact that it's going to be pretty obvious who I am- there's a few things that have happened between myself and her that only she and I would know about.

Secondly, the address thing is a matter of convenience and last resort- my intention is to pay off a random person on Sunday, after church, to hand-deliver the letter to her. Said random person will not know me.

Alas, doing so will require that I evacuate post-haste, thus eliminating any chance to interact with her on that day, when I already have a limited enough interaction with her.

This is all so so so WEIRD

Then again, you arent telling us the whole story here, so I guess thats why I'm confused.

Anyways, you seem to have a plan, and know what to do. I dont suppose you would need any help or advice on this...?

Quoting Whiskey144,

Hm? No- as I said, return call is a perk, and the address is a last resort. That the address is required to be anonymously acquired without alerting her is more a case of me preferring people not know I am looking into their personal information.

After all, 'For such is my want- those dark gifts of knowledge and power' [excerpted from Cyberworld, from The Puzzle that is Me collection, TBP].

Right...

So, since you dont have the time to tell her all that, and it will be obvious that its you (like you said), then why dont you:

1. Send her the letter signed with your name, OR

2. Just give her the letter in person, next time you meet her, it wont take more than 1 minute to do it.

??

Quoting Whiskey144,

Lulzy, but untrue. There actually is a bulletproof vest that's called "Dragon Skin", named as such for the overlapping, almost scale-like arrangement of the protective components of the armor.

Hah, the name reminds me of Dragon's Breath

Quoting Whiskey144,

Have another repost of a piece I've mentioned prior to your return:

My favorite line-

All I ever wanted, all I ever needed,

is right here, in my arms-

Words are very, unnecessary,

They can only do harm.

NUUUUUU I hate Depeche Mode so muc--Oh, nevermind, "The Uploader has not made this video available in your country."

YAY

Quoting Whiskey144,

reply 1577

Long ages of inactivity interspersed with discussion, typically short and very topical. Last couple of pages is the first I've seen of IFear in a long time- Storm pops in occasionally, but generally it's just me, Oatesy, Krdax, and 'the new kid', Nilles.

I see, so its been very quiet then, probably because we all left, oh well

I remember Nilles, but who is KrdaxDrkrun, really?

Quoting Whiskey144,

reply 1577

Xer07, NO FREAKIN' IDEA. I'd say Xer07 is gone for good- or at least for so long that if he comes back he'll be a complete stranger.

Or when he comes back he'll be married...or divorced!

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Quoting morpheas768,

So I guess he cant do it?

Wouldn't ask him in the first place, actually.

Quoting morpheas768,

Got any connections with the 'underworld' ? Can you hack the police database?

I would guess the answer is no-no.

You don't necessarily need such things...........some TOR browsing of the Deep Webs would probably prove useful.

Of course, like the majority of the Internet, discretion and discernment are necessary.

Quoting morpheas768,

Right...

So, since you dont have the time to tell her all that, and it will be obvious that its you (like you said), then why dont you:

1. Send her the letter signed with your name, OR

2. Just give her the letter in person, next time you meet her, it wont take more than 1 minute to do it.

??

There's more to it. Within the letter, I disclose some..........well, extremely deep, undisclosed information regarding myself, particularly my thoughts concerning the fundamental elements of who and what I am.

More-or-less, I'm tearing my soul out to show it to her. If she doesn't figure it out, well, then no one's the wiser. Our friendship continues as previously.

If she does, well, hopefully it strengthens our friendship.

Quoting morpheas768,

NUUUUUU I hate Depeche Mode so muc--Oh, nevermind, "The Uploader has not made this video available in your country."

YAY

RAGEFACE.jpg

Quite honestly, that's the only song of their's that I've listened to, and, ergo, the only one I like.

Quoting morpheas768,

I remember Nilles, but who is KrdaxDrkrun, really?

I know that he's supposed to be a borderline-old-hat, but I can't remember off-hand.

Quoting morpheas768,

Or when he comes back he'll be married...or divorced!

Dear God, I hope the former.

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Quoting morpheas768,

reply 1571

Also, do I need to mention Kevlar and Titanium ?

Well that's a different matter entirely. Why don't we make you some Chobham plate armour Whiskey? It works for the Abrams and Challenger series of tanks, so why shouldn't it work for you?

Quoting morpheas768,

reply 1571

Oh, BTW, plate armor went out of fashion because bulletproof vests appeared, because there was absolutely no sense at all wearing full body armor that covers the knees, the feet, the hands, etc, and making yourself tank-heavy, when 90% of shots are on the torso, which needs the most protection. So yeah, lightweight, Kevlar vests ARE so much better.

We'll probably end up wiki-ing this at some point, but if I remember correctly, full plate armour started to disappear when its cons started outweighing its pros. Keep in mind that the loss of mobility and battlefield awareness was worth it at the time for not being effortlessly shot off of your horse by a lucky archer, and it made you absolutely terrifying to go up against. However, once firearms became more effective, ie vaguely accurate, cavalry units (which were what knights were used as, you wouldn't see a posh knight foot-slogging it!) began to wear simpler armour (ie just a breastplate, if that) to maintain agility, as even the best plate armour wouldn't stop a round the size of a rat punching into your stomach.

It also probably has links (in England anyway) to the termination of the feudal system, in which the King owned all of the land, sub-letted it to barons in return for taxes and the allegiance of their personal armies, who then sub-letted it to their knights in return for their military service, who then sub-letted it to peasants, who paid taxes and could be called to be infantrymen. After this system ended, proper armies were raised on a national level, rather than militias, which also meant that there was no frontline "lord" who would be kitted out in expensive home-made family armour. Instead, officers would be discreet and try not to expose themselves too much.

Bullet-proof vests, as we think of them now, are an incredibly recent invention, 1970s/80s? Could be later, I don't know.

But I'm no historian, so feel free to find a source which proves how inaccurate this could potentially be.

Post regarding the latest page is forthcoming.

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Quoting Whiskey144,

More-or-less, I'm tearing my soul out to show it to her. If she doesn't figure it out, well, then no one's the wiser. Our friendship continues as previously.

... I would say don't do it. It's romantic in a sort of gothic way, but remember that in a gothic novel everybody spends a lot of time being unhappy.

As I said, I don't know how close you two are, but I would proceed with caution. Most people have enough issues to be getting on with in their own life, without other people opening up on them. Unless you would talk to her about the kind of thing you're writing in person, don't put it in a letter. While I'm sure that she's a nice person, not everybody is wholly receptive to others' deepest feelings.

And don't make it anonymous! Again, romantic in an ideal world, but in reality really, really odd. As in, creeping her out odd. Just sign it with your name, and try and give it to her yourself. Say you've got to dash, but you've written this to catch up on communication-time lost. There is nothing to be gained in this situation by secrecy. If she's going to love you (and I'm assuming from what I know about you that you're looking for a genuine relationship, not a "fling"), she's going to need to know who you really are. So, unless deception is in your nature (and this is coming from somebody who has to fight the urge to reflexively lie all the time!) and is going to be a key character trait she's going to be dealing with, I wouldn't do it.

Quoting Whiskey144,

the fundamental elements of who and what I am.

I am me. Nothing more, nothing less, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Just felt like saying that.

BTW, I'd like to point out how much I like my name. I've realised that it has great meaning in many ways.

Roughly, I should be something like a wanderer, bearing others on my shoulders, a paladin of the good fight, and a descendant of Otto.

If you can figure out my full name from that, you're a genius.

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Quoting Oatesy03,

I would say don't do it. It's romantic in a sort of gothic way, but remember that in a gothic novel everybody spends a lot of time being unhappy.

???

Well, I wouldn't know about goth romance. Very un-goth, myself. Now, Gothic, as in the architectural style, I rather have a fondness for (in part because GOTHIC CATHEDRAL SPACESHIPS).

But you can't really write a Gothic novel.

Quoting Oatesy03,

And don't make it anonymous! Again, romantic in an ideal world, but in reality really, really odd. As in, creeping her out odd. Just sign it with your name, and try and give it to her yourself. Say you've got to dash, but you've written this to catch up on communication-time lost. There is nothing to be gained in this situation by secrecy. If she's going to love you (and I'm assuming from what I know about you that you're looking for a genuine relationship, not a "fling"), she's going to need to know who you really are. So, unless deception is in your nature (and this is coming from somebody who has to fight the urge to reflexively lie all the time!) and is going to be a key character trait she's going to be dealing with, I wouldn't do it.

Now I'm rather torn- the secrecy wasn't a way to be romantic, but rather a very reflexive self-defense mechanism. She doesn't figure it out, then she's none the wiser, and pretty much has no chance to revoke our friendship.

Quoting Oatesy03,

I am me. Nothing more, nothing less, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Just felt like saying that.

I feel the same way- it's just that the deepest, darkest parts of who and what I am are...........well, quite frankly I'll say it like this:

A few weeks back, there was a video that was posted on a certain imageboard. The plot of the short film was a young man writing a letter to his dead girlfriend. It was very touching and poignant.

I DID NOT CRY.

I write poetry with themes of self-sacrifice, death, and the concept that I cannot allow myself to die until my work is done.

JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT MAKES ME TEAR UP.

It's the bloody-handed sacrifices that I could be called upon to make that bring me to tears, the confrontation that I harbor a total monster within me, and I embrace it, that brings me to tears.

Not a deeply sad short film of a young man writing his dead girlfriend, not some love story. Not the news that a blood relative has died.

I feel that most people would consider me very disturbed. I'm vaguely curious as to what a psychologist would say about all that, mostly because I find it amusing to learn of such things*.

Is how it is, though.

*Case-in-point, I took a few psych eval tests online for the lulz. Apparently I'm mildly paranoid and occasionally hypervigilant- the latter which I attribute to my job, actually (which requires me to be on the lookout for bad dudes doin' bad stuff pretty constantly and to the near-exclusion of all else).

Quoting Oatesy03,

BTW, I'd like to point out how much I like my name. I've realised that it has great meaning in many ways.

Roughly, I should be something like a wanderer, bearing others on my shoulders, a paladin of the good fight, and a descendant of Otto.

If you can figure out my full name from that, you're a genius.

On a whim, I wiki'd my own first name, which is often taken to mean "protector of the kingdom/realm".

Reading that, I got pretty teary-eyed.

I doubt other people named William have that reaction.

Also, have another video:

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According to Wikipedia, my name--Daniel-- means "God is my Judge".

I believe in that and am content.

And Skyrim is making me angry. I'm supposed to take over Winterhold, but the idiot Legate Rikkius won't tell me how to do it.

Hope everybody had a good Turkey Day.

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Quoting Whiskey144,

reply 1582

But you can't really write a Gothic novel.

Ahem, Wuthering Heights. I'd say that's the most famous gothic novel. Not gothic as in wearing black and growing your hair long, this is much older than that little trend.

Different things elicit different reactions from different people. What do I get upset about? Little, I find. I don't cry, something which I find... odd, maybe even a little sad. I mean, I feel sadness, empathise with it, but when I get upset (which is rare, I'm quite a care-free person in that respect) I tend to get angry, which is a pain really, because if you break down and cry it's fine, but if you get angry you can lash out at the wrong people.

Now onto the meat of the matter once more. About the whole anonymous thing, I'd say be plain and out in the open. If you want her to figure out it was you, then why not put your name at the bottom? And if the contents of the letter would push her away, don't say it yet. Start simple. Maybe offer to meet up sometime, for a coffee or something, to catch up on old times.

I see my guitar friend rarely, in fact we're struggling to find a time to meet up before new year (we're both busy people, though she's even busier than I am), but we stay in contact, by phone and email. So I'd advocate getting in contact with your friend like that. If I were you, I'd drop the whole letter thing, and next time you see her ask her if she wants to meet up, seeing as you've not seen each other much lately, then ask for her number so you can organise something. Call her about it, organise a time and place, take it from there. I'm guessing she lives fairly locally to you, so do something casual and local. I know that my guitar friend and I went to a concert for our first private outing, but there were... interesting circumstances.

These are just my opinions, of course. Ultimately it's up to you to do what you think is best, but we're here when you need us.

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Quoting Oatesy03,

Different things elicit different reactions from different people. What do I get upset about? Little, I find. I don't cry, something which I find... odd, maybe even a little sad. I mean, I feel sadness, empathise with it, but when I get upset (which is rare, I'm quite a care-free person in that respect) I tend to get angry, which is a pain really, because if you break down and cry it's fine, but if you get angry you can lash out at the wrong people.

I feel that there's a key difference. For example, I used to be quite a bit like the "I don't cry", thing- it was as if I was physically unable to cry. That changed, slowly at first- now, well, last week, I came home, and wrote a poem, and I freakin' cried during and after I wrote it.

Not really the loud sobs, but quiet tears were had. Manly tears at that.

I think, really, is the fact that I know that I would do terrible, horrible, violent things to protect, and save, the people I love. Case in point:

Have you seen that movie Taken? I'd do that for a friend- in fact, I feel as if I could go the extra step, and simply start murderizing everything in sight from one end of France to the other until I find said friend.

The church I attend had a missions trip to the country of Malawi in Africa last summer. I was fully prepared to buy a plane ticket to Malawi to get them if something happened, like they got kidnapped by terrorists or something. I'd have gone to freakin' Africa, and started killing and torturing my way to my friends, so I could get them to safety.

Sure, you could say that there's plenty of people who'd do that. But the difference is, that I don't feel like "I could do that", or "I would do that".

I feel as if I am called to be the one who, if necessary, will enact such extreme measures.

Quoting Oatesy03,

Now onto the meat of the matter once more. About the whole anonymous thing, I'd say be plain and out in the open. If you want her to figure out it was you, then why not put your name at the bottom? And if the contents of the letter would push her away, don't say it yet. Start simple. Maybe offer to meet up sometime, for a coffee or something, to catch up on old times.

It's not that I want her to figure it out- it's that it's a given that she'd figure it out. That said, the more I think about it, the more ridiculous it sounds. On the inverse, it's also even more attractive- it's still, at the most basic, a self-defense mechanism.

Quoting Oatesy03,

I see my guitar friend rarely, in fact we're struggling to find a time to meet up before new year (we're both busy people, though she's even busier than I am), but we stay in contact, by phone and email. So I'd advocate getting in contact with your friend like that. If I were you, I'd drop the whole letter thing, and next time you see her ask her if she wants to meet up, seeing as you've not seen each other much lately, then ask for her number so you can organise something. Call her about it, organise a time and place, take it from there. I'm guessing she lives fairly locally to you, so do something casual and local. I know that my guitar friend and I went to a concert for our first private outing, but there were... interesting circumstances.

The issue comes down to the fact that I've graduated high school- and she, whilst being the same age, is only in her senior year.

Combined with the fact that my work schedule generally means that Mondays and Saturdays are really the only good days for us to meet- and Saturdays are by far superior since she's got school on Mondays, and, well, it's difficult to try to arrange times to meet.

I also have no license. So I'll have to put my bike back together. On the plus side, since my job involves lots of bike-riding, and the glorious awesomeness of GoogleMaps, the relative closeness of where she goes to school (and thus probable location of her home) means I can generally meet anywhere that's convenient for her- using only a bike.

Leaving early will be necessary. That is all.

Quoting Oatesy03,

And don't make it anonymous! Again, romantic in an ideal world, but in reality really, really odd. As in, creeping her out odd. Just sign it with your name, and try and give it to her yourself. Say you've got to dash, but you've written this to catch up on communication-time lost. There is nothing to be gained in this situation by secrecy. If she's going to love you (and I'm assuming from what I know about you that you're looking for a genuine relationship, not a "fling"), she's going to need to know who you really are. So, unless deception is in your nature (and this is coming from somebody who has to fight the urge to reflexively lie all the time!) and is going to be a key character trait she's going to be dealing with, I wouldn't do it.

I wanted to touch on this again- at present, I don't hold any hope of a romantic relationship with her. At least, not anything other than "it would be nice, but I doubt it". That said..........lies, deception, and me have a tangled past.

I used to be a reflexive/compulsive liar. Now, not so much. A convincing lie comes relatively easily- which is a two-edged sword, IMO. But I rarely lie- rather, I simply don't talk much about the more personal aspects of myself.

Unless it's on the Internet and I have the advantage of ANONYMOUS.

Truth be told, I don't lie to people about myself. I just don't tell them a whole lot. I'd say that, rather than being deceptive, I'm secretive. Not a whole lot of difference, but it's there.

Before I started attending the high school group of the church I currently am a member of, I rarely talked to people- after several, shall we say, incidents, involving a martial arts studio that was the nexus of my social interaction, I became rather closed.

Come the high school group, and after a couple weeks, I'm a veritable social butterfly. Metaphorically speaking. I talk to people, I have people I consider friends, and I get up from my seat and move around the room, chatting with and greeting people. After a while, it was just easy- the people I knew, I would get up and say hi to, and chat with.

Now I'm in the college group, which is around twice as big. And I've fallen back into myself, so to speak. I don't talk to people, unless the person next to me introduces themselves, or I come across a friend from the high school group. I'm different now, though. Far less naive than I was a year ago, far more world-weary. Before, I'd say that I was fighting the good fight because I might actually change something.

Now? I fight the good fight because it's the right thing to do. Doesn't matter that so little will change, if at all.

Quoting CmdrNilles,

reply 1583

Hope everybody had a good Turkey Day.

What are you talking about? It was Ham Day at my place.

Quoting Oatesy03,

These are just my opinions, of course. Ultimately it's up to you to do what you think is best, but we're here when you need us.

In all honesty, the finer points of social society has never been my strong point. When it comes down to it, I see some usefulness in your advice- it simply needs tempering with my own experience and faith.

Quoting morpheas768,

*Ahem* Xer07 and Mishayla *AHEEM*

I wanted to touch on this again as well. With Xer07 and his "Mishayla", it seems his care for her was an outgrowth of his previous romantic interest in her.

My care for my 'guitar friend', as it were, stems more from my faith. It is my belief that the greatest sacrifice a man can give is his very life for that of another- and if I am called to do so, then I will do so gladly.

It is my honor to die for them, His Chosen, His Children [excerpted from the works of W, unpublished]

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Because I'm too lazy to edit my post, have this video:

This is the full song from a Lincoln MKX commercial that was very popular some time ago. If you are not American, you may not have heard of this commercial.

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Oh man, I leave for 2 days and this is what happens...

Now I have to read and reply to all that...NOT I'm gonna reply to whoever replied to me though!

Quoting Whiskey144,

You don't necessarily need such things...........some TOR browsing of the Deep Webs would probably prove useful.

Of course, like the majority of the Internet, discretion and discernment are necessary.

I disagree, because no websites you can access have this kind of information, but I'm not sure, maybe its possible maybe its not.

Quoting Whiskey144,

There's more to it. Within the letter, I disclose some..........well, extremely deep, undisclosed information regarding myself, particularly my thoughts concerning the fundamental elements of who and what I am.

More-or-less, I'm tearing my soul out to show it to her. If she doesn't figure it out, well, then no one's the wiser. Our friendship continues as previously.

If she does, well, hopefully it strengthens our friendship.

I know, you arent human, but will she figure it out? Thats the question!

So, you want to open your heart to her by writing a letter...interesting...

I dont disapprove of that trust you are willing to show her, but what if that letter were to fall in the wrong hands one day? You'd be trusting the wrong person, unwillingly. You can just tell her all these things, and maybe then she'll tell you some of her personal stuff. You know, you trust her, she trusts you. Besides, like KrdaxDrkrun (or however that damn name is spelled!) said, letters cant really express some things that verbal dialect can express. In other words, speaking in person is much better than writing a letter to someone, because you can tell them exactly what you want to say, and you can see their responses immediately, and its a lot more personal than a cold letter. (letters are impersonal like Drkrun said)

And dont give me that "I dont have time to tell her all that" excuse, you MAKE time, if its that important to you, you will find time.

Anyways, I am crossing the line on the "giving advice" kind of thing here, by saying what I would do, and being a little more blunt than I should be, but whatever.

Just take it as advice (and nothing more), and its all good

Quoting Whiskey144,

RAGEFACE.jpg

Quite honestly, that's the only song of their's that I've listened to, and, ergo, the only one I like.

I guess its possible that they have one good song, but I doubt it.

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Uhm, sorry Snipe, I dont care about the subject of armor anymore. No offense

Quoting Whiskey144,

Quoting morpheas768, reply 1574*Ahem* Xer07 and Mishayla *AHEEM*

I wanted to touch on this again as well. With Xer07 and his "Mishayla", it seems his care for her was an outgrowth of his previous romantic interest in her.

My care for my 'guitar friend', as it were, stems more from my faith. It is my belief that the greatest sacrifice a man can give is his very life for that of another- and if I am called to do so, then I will do so gladly.

It is my honor to die for them, His Chosen, His Children [excerpted from the works of W, unpublished]

Uhm, I think his care was true love, but who am I to talk about Xer07's feelings?

In short, you would die for her (your guitar friend), you would give your life to save hers. And thats...admirable I think that you truly love her with all your heart, if that is true.

Quoting Oatesy03,

... I would say don't do it. It's romantic in a sort of gothic way, but remember that in a gothic novel everybody spends a lot of time being unhappy.

As I said, I don't know how close you two are, but I would proceed with caution. Most people have enough issues to be getting on with in their own life, without other people opening up on them. Unless you would talk to her about the kind of thing you're writing in person, don't put it in a letter. While I'm sure that she's a nice person, not everybody is wholly receptive to others' deepest feelings.

And don't make it anonymous! Again, romantic in an ideal world, but in reality really, really odd. As in, creeping her out odd. Just sign it with your name, and try and give it to her yourself. Say you've got to dash, but you've written this to catch up on communication-time lost. There is nothing to be gained in this situation by secrecy. If she's going to love you (and I'm assuming from what I know about you that you're looking for a genuine relationship, not a "fling"), she's going to need to know who you really are. So, unless deception is in your nature (and this is coming from somebody who has to fight the urge to reflexively lie all the time!) and is going to be a key character trait she's going to be dealing with, I wouldn't do it.

Agreed with everything Snipe said in this post. Just felt I had to say this.

Quoting Whiskey144,

reply 1582

Now I'm rather torn- the secrecy wasn't a way to be romantic, but rather a very reflexive self-defense mechanism. She doesn't figure it out, then she's none the wiser, and pretty much has no chance to revoke our friendship.

Reflexive self-defence mechanism...translation: "I cant tell her all that in person, so I am writing a letter."

Its ok, Whiskey, we've all been there, when sometime we didnt have the courage to say how we feel.

Quoting Whiskey144,

reply 1582

A few weeks back, there was a video that was posted on a certain imageboard. The plot of the short film was a young man writing a letter to his dead girlfriend. It was very touching and poignant.

I DID NOT CRY.

I write poetry with themes of self-sacrifice, death, and the concept that I cannot allow myself to die until my work is done.

JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT MAKES ME TEAR UP.

It's the bloody-handed sacrifices that I could be called upon to make that bring me to tears, the confrontation that I harbor a total monster within me, and I embrace it, that brings me to tears.

Not a deeply sad short film of a young man writing his dead girlfriend, not some love story. Not the news that a blood relative has died.

I feel that most people would consider me very disturbed. I'm vaguely curious as to what a psychologist would say about all that, mostly because I find it amusing to learn of such things*.

Is how it is, though.

*Case-in-point, I took a few psych eval tests online for the lulz. Apparently I'm mildly paranoid and occasionally hypervigilant- the latter which I attribute to my job, actually (which requires me to be on the lookout for bad dudes doin' bad stuff pretty constantly and to the near-exclusion of all else).

Well, I would cry about all these things you said, but yeah, thats just me.

But...WOW I would have never ever guessed that Whiskey writes...poetry? Did I read this right? This is so so so bizarre and unexpected! Not making fun of you of course, dont take it the wrong way, but you're the last person that I thought they would say this, for real.

On another note, about the online psych tests...they're bullshit. Simple as that. Are you really gonna trust some online crap that someone wrote to define who you are? Thats lame. You know who is the best psychiatrist/psychologist for you? You are. You are best person to judge yourself, and nobody else. Thats what I believe in, and I find that many many times in my life is true.

Lastly, so this is why you're writing her a letter? It contains some of your 'super-secret' poems? Hmm, that would make sense, cause, you know, reciting a poem is super lame and ruins the poem completely, imo. So a letter with one or more of these poems would make sense, in a way.

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Quoting CmdrNilles,

reply 1583

And Skyrim is making me angry. I'm supposed to take over Winterhold, but the idiot Legate Rikkius won't tell me how to do it.

Thats a bug in the game. Supposedly, in that quest, all markers disappear, so you have no way of knowing how to complete it. Just Google it. You will find the answer, because I remember reading about it, and people said the quest can be completed. There's youtube videos too, as well.

Sorry, dont remember how though, as I havent been to Winterhold just yet (I'm taking one city at a time, and its slow, I know).

P.S. Winterhold is where the magic school is supposed to be, right?

Quoting Whiskey144,

I feel that there's a key difference. For example, I used to be quite a bit like the "I don't cry", thing- it was as if I was physically unable to cry. That changed, slowly at first- now, well, last week, I came home, and wrote a poem, and I freakin' cried during and after I wrote it.

Not really the loud sobs, but quiet tears were had. Manly tears at that.

Congratulations, you are human

Quoting Whiskey144,

I also have no license. So I'll have to put my bike back together. On the plus side, since my job involves lots of bike-riding, and the glorious awesomeness of GoogleMaps, the relative closeness of where she goes to school (and thus probable location of her home) means I can generally meet anywhere that's convenient for her- using only a bike.

Leaving early will be necessary. That is all.

Use public transport maybe?

I would guess that she has no license either, so you both are basically stuck with using public transport, or a cab, or someone could drive you (which is lame, and you lose intimacy).

I dont see anything wrong with that.

Quoting Whiskey144,

Truth be told, I don't lie to people about myself. I just don't tell them a whole lot. I'd say that, rather than being deceptive, I'm secretive. Not a whole lot of difference, but it's there.

Welcome to the club (of secretive people). I am the leader of this club, pleased to meet you

(not really kidding though)

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Yes yes, I know I tripled posted, and I replied to stuff that werent aimed at me. And yes, I know I ignored some posts as well

So get over it already

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Quoting morpheas768,

reply 1587

I disagree, because no websites you can access have this kind of information, but I'm not sure, maybe its possible maybe its not.

You'd be surprised about what you can learn about on a certain imageboard. From said imageboard, I now have information that will allow me to:

Break into cars without being heard!
Hotwire cars!
Make military-grade incendiary grenades!
Be a BAWS pseudo-mentalist!
Get high using no external substances!
How to carhop!
How to use an elevator without stopping at floors you don't want to stop at!
Hack Facebook accounts like a BAWS!
Hack MAH BRAINZ!
How to LUCID DREAM!
How to make Ricin hemotoxin!
Remove change from a vending machine!
Exploit the mechanical limitations of a combination lock to open it in FIVE MINUTES without previously knowing the combo!
How to unlock keyless automobile entries!
How to make smoke, irritant, and poison gas grenades!

I'm not shitting you- I really do have the info to do all of that. The majority are things that consist of "useful to know, not to employ" skills, some are "WHY WOULD I DO THAT (carhopping)!", and some are "I used it today at work (elevator trick*)".

*If you're curious, you hold the "close doors" button, and then hold down the button for the floor you want. Don't let go of EITHER button until you get the floor you want. Cops use this trick, BTW.

Quoting morpheas768,

reply 1587

I dont disapprove of that trust you are willing to show her, but what if that letter were to fall in the wrong hands one day? You'd be trusting the wrong person, unwillingly. You can just tell her all these things, and maybe then she'll tell you some of her personal stuff. You know, you trust her, she trusts you. Besides, like KrdaxDrkrun (or however that damn name is spelled!) said, letters cant really express some things that verbal dialect can express. In other words, speaking in person is much better than writing a letter to someone, because you can tell them exactly what you want to say, and you can see their responses immediately, and its a lot more personal than a cold letter. (letters are impersonal like Drkrun said)

..........

I never considered that angle, actually.

Quoting morpheas768,

reply 1587

And dont give me that "I dont have time to tell her all that" excuse, you MAKE time, if its that important to you, you will find time.

Guess what? Next Sunday (which I have off), I'm going to meet with her to chat. BOOYAH.

I felt like I was going to pass out for the next hour after that.

Quoting morpheas768,

In short, you would die for her (your guitar friend), you would give your life to save hers. And thats...admirable I think that you truly love her with all your heart, if that is true.

It's more than that- pretty much all of my friends, I'd sacrifice myself to save them. Even more so if it's a trade of "my life for the lives of x+1 [where x is a non-zero positive number] friends".

Truly, I feel the following phrase describes me:

It is my honor to die for them

Quoting morpheas768,

Reflexive self-defence mechanism...translation: "I cant tell her all that in person, so I am writing a letter."

Its ok, Whiskey, we've all been there, when sometime we didnt have the courage to say how we feel.

I dunno if it's that, because I actually wanted to tell her in person- I just haven't had the opportunity prior to the aforementioned break.

Quoting morpheas768,

But...WOW I would have never ever guessed that Whiskey writes...poetry? Did I read this right? This is so so so bizarre and unexpected! Not making fun of you of course, dont take it the wrong way, but you're the last person that I thought they would say this, for real.

It's both a very old and very recent thing. A piece has been in existence for probably almost 2-3 years now- the rest have been penned within the past 3-4 months. I'd say that you'd want to read them, but on some level I find them slightly disturbing- if only because of the fact that these pieces cloak who I really am in a sheer drape, rather than the heavy burlap I'm used to.

Quoting morpheas768,

On another note, about the online psych tests...they're bullshit. Simple as that. Are you really gonna trust some online crap that someone wrote to define who you are? Thats lame. You know who is the best psychiatrist/psychologist for you? You are. You are best person to judge yourself, and nobody else. Thats what I believe in, and I find that many many times in my life is true.

I think you misunderstand- I took the tests for the lulz. I had no serious intention on following up on any of the results; it was purely to amuse myself.

Quoting morpheas768,

Lastly, so this is why you're writing her a letter? It contains some of your 'super-secret' poems? Hmm, that would make sense, cause, you know, reciting a poem is super lame and ruins the poem completely, imo. So a letter with one or more of these poems would make sense, in a way.

.............no, the inclusion of the poetry was decided on after the fact. Further, I feel that for some of my poetic work, recitation would be necessary to convey the feeling and milieu of the piece.

Quoting morpheas768,

Congratulations, you are human

Since when has that been in doubt?

Quoting morpheas768,

Use public transport maybe?

I would guess that she has no license either, so you both are basically stuck with using public transport, or a cab, or someone could drive you (which is lame, and you lose intimacy).

I dont see anything wrong with that.

Oh, no, you misunderstand- I'm fine with having to use my bike to get around- considering the amount of bike-riding I do (and the adrenaline-fueled speeding I shouldn't do on Sundays, my busiest workday, but kinda-sorta do) makes me confident of my ability to move around an urban area.*

That said, we live within 20 miles of each other- so if we were to meet up at a location that's not my church/workplace, then I'd insist on something close to her, so as not to inconvenience her. I don't mind having to bike ten or fifteen miles.

*Side note- the adrenaline-fueled speeding tends to get me to this state where I just stop 'thinking', and start 'being'- the best way I can describe it is as "living the emergent now". You don't think, you don't pay attention, you just see, act, and react.

..................Bloody naffing hell that sounds like a giant pile of bullshit.

Quoting morpheas768,

Welcome to the club (of secretive people). I am the leader of this club, pleased to meet you

Are you sure you're the leader? It is, after all, a club of secretive people. By definition, nobody really knows anything about anyone else.

Quoting morpheas768,

Yes yes, I know I tripled posted, and I replied to stuff that werent aimed at me. And yes, I know I ignored some posts as well

I essay-post, you triple-post, it's all good.

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Quoting morpheas768,

And Skyrim is making me angry. I'm supposed to take over Winterhold, but the idiot Legate Rikkius won't tell me how to do it.
Thats a bug in the game. Supposedly, in that quest, all markers disappear, so you have no way of knowing how to complete it. Just Google it. You will find the answer, because I remember reading about it, and people said the quest can be completed. There's youtube videos too, as well.

Sorry, dont remember how though, as I havent been to Winterhold just yet (I'm taking one city at a time, and its slow, I know).

P.S. Winterhold is where the magic school is supposed to be, right?

Ok, I'll try it. I will let you know i f it worked once I can get on.

Oh and yeah Winterhold has the College for Mages. The quest for the college is pretty good

Quoting Whiskey144,

Congratulations, you are human
Since when has that been in doubt?

You never can be too sure

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Quoting Whiskey144,

You'd be surprised about what you can learn about on a certain imageboard. From said imageboard, I now have information that will allow me to:

Hack MAH BRAINZ!
How to LUCID DREAM!

I'm not shitting you- I really do have the info to do all of that. The majority are things that consist of "useful to know, not to employ" skills, some are "WHY WOULD I DO THAT (carhopping)!", and some are "I used it today at work (elevator trick*)".

Rrrright....

Quoting Whiskey144,

I never considered that angle, actually.

Well you should!

Quoting Whiskey144,

Guess what? Next Sunday (which I have off), I'm going to meet with her to chat. BOOYAH.

I felt like I was going to pass out for the next hour after that.

Good for you

Quoting Whiskey144,

It's more than that- pretty much all of my friends, I'd sacrifice myself to save them. Even more so if it's a trade of "my life for the lives of x+1 [where x is a non-zero positive number] friends".

Truly, I feel the following phrase describes me:

It is my honor to die for them

I dont mean to be an ass here, but are you sure they all worth it? I mean worth dying for them? Each and every one of your friends?

Quoting Whiskey144,

I think you misunderstand- I took the tests for the lulz. I had no serious intention on following up on any of the results; it was purely to amuse myself.

Oh ok then, I thought you took it seriously, but I was wrong.

Quoting Whiskey144,

Further, I feel that for some of my poetic work, recitation would be necessary to convey the feeling and milieu of the piece.

I disagree. I think that part of what makes poetry so special, is the fact that every person feels different about it when they read it, in a way that it might mean nothing to me, but it could be really touching for X person. Poetry is like...art imo Like an inspired work of art, otherwise, its just a novel, or plain text.

Quoting Whiskey144,

Since when has that been in doubt?

I dont think you really detected the sarcasm on my comment...

Quoting Whiskey144,

Oh, no, you misunderstand- I'm fine with having to use my bike to get around- considering the amount of bike-riding I do (and the adrenaline-fueled speeding I shouldn't do on Sundays, my busiest workday, but kinda-sorta do) makes me confident of my ability to move around an urban area.*

That said, we live within 20 miles of each other- so if we were to meet up at a location that's not my church/workplace, then I'd insist on something close to her, so as not to inconvenience her. I don't mind having to bike ten or fifteen miles.

*Side note- the adrenaline-fueled speeding tends to get me to this state where I just stop 'thinking', and start 'being'- the best way I can describe it is as "living the emergent now". You don't think, you don't pay attention, you just see, act, and react.

Yes, I misunderstood. Because you see, I was under the impression that this was a typical 'date', so it would include that you would escort the lady back to her place (which I really love to do, its...chivalry, plus you get the bonus of spending more time with her ) , but this is more like "hey, wanna hang out? - Sure, lets go to that place, meet you there.", I guess.

That said, you should totally date her!

Wait...wtf why am I excited? (someone needs to get out more...)

Whatever just ignore those last 2 comments he he

Anyways, since you are obviously not close to each other (in proximity), I totally approve of you meeting her somewhere close to her place, so she doesnt have to go very far. I think it would also help if you werent to arrive at the meeting point, all out of breath, full of sweat, and barely able to stand up, so it would be wise to go at a normal pace with your bike (just saying).

Lastly, you do realize what good exercise this is, right? I mean you riding that bike regularly at such long distances. Btw, what do you do for a living? (dont have to tell me if you dont want to)

Quoting Whiskey144,

Are you sure you're the leader? It is, after all, a club of secretive people. By definition, nobody really knows anything about anyone else.

Hehehe, good one

Quoting CmdrNilles,

reply 1591

Oh and yeah Winterhold has the College for Mages. The quest for the college is pretty good

Damn, now I really want to go to Winterhold.

BRB, taking the long route by the mountains. Winterhold, HERE I COME!

Quoting CmdrNilles,

reply 1591

Quoting Whiskey144, reply 1590Congratulations, you are human
Since when has that been in doubt?

You never can be too sure

That^

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Quoting morpheas768,

Rrrright....

You want proof? I can register with some kind of image-hosting service and post the pics.

Quoting morpheas768,

I dont mean to be an ass here, but are you sure they all worth it? I mean worth dying for them? Each and every one of your friends?

Absolutely- I've had friends in the past that I wouldn't lift a finger for, but these friends are different. I'm a Christian, they're Christians. If you're wondering, the previous friends I wouldn't lift a finger for were all pretty douchey.

Quoting morpheas768,

I disagree. I think that part of what makes poetry so special, is the fact that every person feels different about it when they read it, in a way that it might mean nothing to me, but it could be really touching for X person. Poetry is like...art imo Like an inspired work of art, otherwise, its just a novel, or plain text.

Eh, everyone's got a different opinion, I suppose. It's just that some of the pieces, IMO, almost require recitation to convey some of the emotion contained therein.

The only downside is that the particular pieces I'm thinking of are the ones that make me cry. Manly tears, mind you. But cry nonetheless.

Quoting morpheas768,

That said, you should totally date her!

If God wills, then I may very well eventually end up in a romantic relationship with her.

The amount of awesomeness of such an event is inexpressible.

Quoting morpheas768,

Anyways, since you are obviously not close to each other (in proximity), I totally approve of you meeting her somewhere close to her place, so she doesnt have to go very far. I think it would also help if you werent to arrive at the meeting point, all out of breath, full of sweat, and barely able to stand up, so it would be wise to go at a normal pace with your bike (just saying).

At present, the meeting is actually going to occur this Sunday at the church we both attend. That said, using a normal pace is better- in part because it'll give more reaction time to unexpected things. Like cars getting in the way.

Quoting morpheas768,

Lastly, you do realize what good exercise this is, right? I mean you riding that bike regularly at such long distances. Btw, what do you do for a living? (dont have to tell me if you dont want to)

I work as part of the security detail of a church; my job is specifically to ride a bike around, be visible to any would-be criminals, thus acting as a deterrent, and to observe&report any suspicious activity. Since it's a church, and I work every other Sunday, Sundays are, ergo, the busiest day of the week.

And of course I know of the good exercise this is. As an aside, the fiancee of a friend of mine has commented that she'd love to have my job because it's riding a bike around during the entire shift.

They're a very nice couple.

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Quoting morpheas768,

so it would include that you would escort the lady back to her place (which I really love to do, its...chivalry, plus you get the bonus of spending more time with her ) ,

^This.

Merely suggesting it, asking if she wants you to accompany her home, shows that you're mature, sensible, and are prepared to put yourself out for her.

Quoting Whiskey144,

If God wills, then I may very well eventually end up in a romantic relationship with her.

The amount of awesomeness of such an event is inexpressible.

Hmm. Sounds like you like her quite a bit, I hope it works out for you. Seize the day, good sir.

It kind of makes me guilty to talk about my "guitar friend," seeing as it's kind of a success story. I apologise if this isn't helpful Whiskey. And I know that my situation has far less to discuss, what with there being nary a hitch in sight, but hey.

Anyway, I think it's really going to work. I really like her, and as far as I can tell, she really likes me. I'm hoping to meet up with her again next Thursday. We really like spending time together, and we have similar interests, so many intellectual concerts and theatricals lay ahead, methinks. I get the feeling we're going to sort of "drift together," if you get what I mean. I don't know, what is your experience in these things Morph? Have you ever had someone like that?

EDIT: Ooh, forgot to mention, her first song to be released on iTunes comes out on Thursday! She's a musician like me. We met through music, as it happens. Long story.

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Quoting Oatesy03,

Merely suggesting it, asking if she wants you to accompany her home, shows that you're mature, sensible, and are prepared to put yourself out for her.

Alas, this will be quite hard to do when I meet her on Sunday, since it's a long walk of (to me) unknown distance. And she usually rides home with her dad&sister.

Quoting Oatesy03,

Hmm. Sounds like you like her quite a bit, I hope it works out for you. Seize the day, good sir.

I really don't know just how much I like her. It's hard to separate that out for me sometimes.

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Just wanted to announce that after literally years of wondering what the title&artist of a particular song I happen to have acquired* is, I have finally found it.

Without further ado, I present [crosses fingers in hope that it's available in Greece as well]:

*I say acquired because it was the first track to a gameplay video for a skirmish map someone had made for Dawn of War: Dark Crusade, and they neglected to include info on the tracks.

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Quoting Whiskey144,

You want proof? I can register with some kind of image-hosting service and post the pics.

You dont have to register. Imageshack and many other image hosting websites are free, and without any register/login required to upload.

So, pics or it didnt happen!

Quoting Whiskey144,

Eh, everyone's got a different opinion, I suppose. It's just that some of the pieces, IMO, almost require recitation to convey some of the emotion contained therein.

The only downside is that the particular pieces I'm thinking of are the ones that make me cry. Manly tears, mind you. But cry nonetheless.

About poetry. A fair point, I can understand that.

Manly tears? Nah-ah. No such thing in my dictionary. Tears are tears, and crying is crying. We all cry from time to time, because we are all humans. Now, whether if someone cries like a little girl, or like a robot with wet eyes, is irrelevant imo. It just depends on the person in question, and on the level of "oh I am tough, I dont cry like that" kind of notion.

So, if something really really terrible were to happen to you (hypothetically sp.), I guarantee to you that you would be crying like a baby, more or less. You could hold it in you say? Sure, for some time you could, until you let it all out and burst like a volcano. I think you get the point by now.

As for me, there are many things that can make my eyes water, but what sets the "crying like a little girl" effect, is ironically a general scenario of me being close to a girl which I care about, and she is crying. That can instantly make me cry, as I cant stand the sight of a lady-girl crying, it just rips my heart.

Quoting Whiskey144,

If God wills, then I may very well eventually end up in a romantic relationship with her.

The amount of awesomeness of such an event is inexpressible.

I'm pretty sure that God 'wills', but the most important is if "she wills", he he

Maybe...scout to see if she would consider that option in the future? Hmm, maybe a friend could help get that information for you...

Just saying.

Quoting Whiskey144,

That said, using a normal pace is better- in part because it'll give more reaction time to unexpected things. Like cars getting in the way.

LMAO

Yeah, I guess thats important as well. Its better to get there in one piece, eh?

Quoting Whiskey144,

I work as part of the security detail of a church; my job is specifically to ride a bike around, be visible to any would-be criminals, thus acting as a deterrent, and to observe&report any suspicious activity. Since it's a church, and I work every other Sunday, Sundays are, ergo, the busiest day of the week.

I would have never guessed that

I was thinking that you might work in postal services, or a delivery job of some sort.

Quoting Oatesy03,

Merely suggesting it, asking if she wants you to accompany her home, shows that you're mature, sensible, and are prepared to put yourself out for her.

^This

Quoting Oatesy03,

Anyway, I think it's really going to work. I really like her, and as far as I can tell, she really likes me. I'm hoping to meet up with her again next Thursday. We really like spending time together, and we have similar interests, so many intellectual concerts and theatricals lay ahead, methinks. I get the feeling we're going to sort of "drift together," if you get what I mean. I don't know, what is your experience in these things Morph? Have you ever had someone like that?

Well, seems to me that you kind of just want to share this with us, not as much as asking for advice. But hey, this isnt the "Help those in Need" thread, this is the Chatroom, for God's sake, so its all good! (half-joking here)

Yeah, ok bad sense of humor, whatevers

Uhm, I did have someone like that, but I am not exactly sure if the situation which you described, is similar, aka not sure if I got it right.

So, hold on a sec, because I have missed quite a few episodes, and I have no idea whats going on with you and your guitar friend, Snipe. (damn, so many guitar friends, ha ha. I guess I am the only one who doesnt have one.)

1. You and your guitar friend are going out, as....what? Friends?

2. How long has it been?

3. Where and how did you meet her? Actually, just "how". Where isnt as important.

4. Impressions? Thoughts? About her of course.

Basically, I need more info on the matter, cause I have no idea whats going on.

Quoting Oatesy03,

EDIT: Ooh, forgot to mention, her first song to be released on iTunes comes out on Thursday! She's a musician like me. We met through music, as it happens. Long story.

Youtube channel? Me and iTunes dont get along so well

A link would be nice.

Quoting Whiskey144,

reply 1595

Alas, this will be quite hard to do when I meet her on Sunday, since it's a long walk of (to me) unknown distance. And she usually rides home with her dad&sister.

IF you were to date her, that suggestion (by me and Snipe) would be nice, dummy

Not like: (At Church) - "hey, whatsup, nice to see you here...bla bla bla...want me to accompany you home?" "LOLWUT? " That would be kinda weird, especially since 'she usually rides home with her dad&sister'.

I dunno, if you're just hanging out with her as friends, it wouldnt really mean much if you were to walk her home, or something. You gotta take one step at a time, not skip steps!

That said, you should ask her to marry you! (Just kidding of course, dont do it lol)

Quoting Whiskey144,

reply 1595

I really don't know just how much I like her.

I've said that quite a few times (in my life) as well, (some of them I would swear I dont like 'her'), only to find myself completely enchanted by a girl's charms.

Quoting Whiskey144,

reply 1596

Just wanted to announce that after literally years of wondering what the title&artist of a particular song I happen to have acquired* is, I have finally found it.

Without further ado, I present [crosses fingers in hope that it's available in Greece as well]:

It works fine, first time I hear this piece, and have never heard of the band.

I'm not thrilled, but its good I guess.

P.S. Youtube sucks so f***ing hard, its getting worse and worse, giving the user less and less freedom. Now I cant freaking remove any of the recent uploads from the Subs list, so I have no freaking idea which videos I watched, and which videos I didnt, which ones I want to watch, and which ones I dont. Thankfully, I managed to revert back to the 'old' youtube, but for how long? They are going to make this change permanent for everyone, which S-U-C-K-S /end of mini-rage

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Quoting morpheas768,

It works fine, first time I hear this piece, and have never heard of the band.

I'm not thrilled, but its good I guess.

Yes /Napolean Dynamite voice. It's the only song that I actually know of for that band, and prior to finally learning the name of the piece I'd never even heard of that band.

I have to say that I like the song a lot.

Quoting morpheas768,

I was thinking that you might work in postal services, or a delivery job of some sort.

Nope. I could probably do some kind of delivery thing if it used bikes, but as I have no license, postal services might not be as good. Especially since I'm not too fond of the idea of being a counter-jockey. Dealing with people in a cordial manner isn't necessarily my strongsuit.

Quoting morpheas768,

I dunno, if you're just hanging out with her as friends, it wouldnt really mean much if you were to walk her home, or something. You gotta take one step at a time, not skip steps!

That's a bit a problem, as I don't know the 'steps' as it were. This girl is the first one I've had the guts to actually tell her how I felt.

Quoting morpheas768,

Maybe...scout to see if she would consider that option in the future? Hmm, maybe a friend could help get that information for you...

............I have friends who are friends of hers as well, but it's complicated. Mostly because they're either girls who would almost certainly tell her, or they're guys who wouldn't know jack about it. Or possibly her sister- who would be simultaneously a really good and really bad choice. Good because, hey, her sister would definitely know out of all possibilities, but bad because, you know, her sister would almost certainly spill the beans.

And on top of that, one of the girls who happens to be friends with me and her...... well, I'm not sure whether or not I have feelings for her. OR vice versa! After all, she invariably recognizes me whenever she sees me on-duty (I don't know how she does it..........perhaps it's the mustache and the beard), and she is a really nice person.

And she's pretty, well, pretty. That's important too.

Quoting morpheas768,

I've said that quite a few times (in my life) as well, (some of them I would swear I dont like 'her'), only to find myself completely enchanted by a girl's charms.

Part of it is that I seem to vacillate between romantic and friendly inclinations.

Also, have some LMFAO:

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YouTube's new layout just went permanent, and its driving me mad!

I do NOT freaking want to have every single upload from my subscriptions sitting there forever, without the option to remove it.

I do NOT want a single column with each video upload separate from each other, going all the way to the bottom of the page, making me scroll every time to find just 1 video.

Right now, I dont know which videos I've watched, and which ones I havent, which videos I want to watch, and which ones I dont want to watch, and thats because I cant remove ANY of the videos I have watched, or dont want to watch.

But most of all, I do NOT want a fucking greyish/black myspace look, that makes reading a lot harder, and makes me wanna kill myself. Thanks youtube, you finally managed to make your website absolutely horrible and non user-friedly.

I dont even dare to mention the new layout for YT channels, the horribly big video thumbnails, the bugs, the removed video responses, and a lot of other crap.

A big thanks to Google, who bought YouTube so they can destroy it with ease.

And in case you are wondering, No, thats not the only place I am raging. I-AM-RAGING EVERYWHERE RIGHT NOW

/END OF LONG RAGE

Quoting Whiskey144,

Dealing with people in a cordial manner isn't necessarily my strongsuit

You are lucky, because thats exactly my strongsuit, even though I dont like it at all. So I always end up doing jobs that involve employee-customer interaction, like working at a clothes store for example. Hate it, just hate it, but what can ya do?

Quoting Whiskey144,

That's a bit a problem, as I don't know the 'steps' as it were. This girl is the first one I've had the guts to actually tell her how I felt.

You dont have to know them, you figure them out along the way

I sooo miss the times where I was kinda in your shoes, and did all that stuff for the first time. You may be nervous, you may not know what to do, but its the best part for me. Aaahh good times, good times

Quoting Whiskey144,

............I have friends who are friends of hers as well, but it's complicated. Mostly because they're either girls who would almost certainly tell her, or they're guys who wouldn't know jack about it. Or possibly her sister- who would be simultaneously a really good and really bad choice. Good because, hey, her sister would definitely know out of all possibilities, but bad because, you know, her sister would almost certainly spill the beans.

Yeah, this could be a problem, but you would take a risk in doing that anyway, so whatever.

Quoting Whiskey144,

And on top of that, one of the girls who happens to be friends with me and her...... well, I'm not sure whether or not I have feelings for her. OR vice versa! After all, she invariably recognizes me whenever she sees me on-duty (I don't know how she does it..........perhaps it's the mustache and the beard), and she is a really nice person.

And she's pretty, well, pretty. That's important too.

You have a mustache, and a beard.....WHAAAAAAAT? What the...I would have never ever ever ever guessed that. I find it highly more likely that you write poetry, than this, lol. Oh well, I guess the internetz dont help in knowing people well, do they?

Ok, so you might like more girls than just this guitar friend of yours...interesting. Thats a good and a bad thing imo. Good because you're not completely stuck on one girl, but bad because it might ruin things for you and your guitar friend, so it kinda complicates things, if its true.

And I think you forget something about this new girl you talked about. She is also pretty, you didnt mention that

Quoting Whiskey144,

Also, have some LMFAO:

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Noooooo I hate them! Why do you keep posting stuff I hate? LOL

P.S. YouTube sucks, did I mention that?

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Quoting morpheas768,

You dont have to know them, you figure them out along the way

I suppose that's reassuring, then.

Quoting morpheas768,

Yeah, this could be a problem, but you would take a risk in doing that anyway, so whatever.

I'm going to go with "forget about that course of action as I'd probably never get the info I wanted anyways".

Quoting morpheas768,

You have a mustache, and a beard.....WHAAAAAAAT?

Yup. Been shaving since I was around 11/12 years old. So for roughly 6-7 years now. I have a very full mustache- a friend's [girl] cousin once asked if she could touch my 'stache. And no, that's not innuendo. It's Exactly What's On The Tin.

My beard's also growing in quite nicely- I've got some pretty beast sideburns going on. Chinbeard's comin' in too, but not as much as I want.

Quoting morpheas768,

Ok, so you might like more girls than just this guitar friend of yours...interesting. Thats a good and a bad thing imo. Good because you're not completely stuck on one girl, but bad because it might ruin things for you and your guitar friend, so it kinda complicates things, if its true.

The key bit is I simply don't know. Partly because I'm very new to this whole "declaring my [undying] love [to a girl]" thing, but also because there's two girls I find equally attractive, but wish I was better friends with.

..........

I never did mention how I found out that both Snickers and Transformers can be the way to a woman's heart, did I?

Quoting morpheas768,

And I think you forget something about this new girl you talked about. She is also pretty, you didnt mention that

I thought that was a given.

Quoting morpheas768,