http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQe0Fd1rbj4

Yeah, I know.. its on Fox..they are just.... the messenger  but listen to what she says.

WHY IS A UNITED STATES CONGRESSWOMAN PRAISING CASTRO AND CHE GUEVERA ???"

Diane Watson just handed herself a loss before the voting starts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrA9zj94NuU  Maxine waters... also done next time around.

This is why Beck isnt going down.. Too much material abounds.

"Megyn Kelly 2012"  Love it.

john, you believe beck. i don't. i know he submits his fallacies as facts. he has admitted to doing so in the past. i watched him one time and that's all the proof i needed. he's not a journalist or investigator. he's a shock-jock, nothing more.

nothing i can say will convince you. nothing you can say will convince me. this is true about beck and the way the country is being run and the prospects of its future. this can also be said about the colts vs jags.

you're still a friend, tho. i do have a friend who claims to be a communists. i also have many friends who are republicans. i don't hold their political views against them.

Since when does one have to be titled journalist or investigator to point out what is clearly visible ALL OVER THE MEDIA.

Keep shooting the messenger everyone, avoid the questions.

Btw.. Beck is a a registered independent and goes frequently after republicans also.. If y'all watched, you would know that.

john, when the messenger is not being truthful, the messege isn't valid.

olberman and maddow go after democrats too but i don't see you supporting them.

the only show i've watched is the one where he centered on the cars.gov site, john. not one thing he said that night was truthful.

as for your questions, i'm not going to waste my time on them because it doesn't matter what i would say, you wouldn't believe it. like i said before, you're right-wing and i'm a bit left of center.

as for olberman and maddow, they aren't like the daily show, hannity, and beck where they use only a portion of a soundbyte or video clip. they show the entire clip or tell where they got it from. they, at least, attempt to get facts which is unlike beck. do i agree with everything they say? nope. do i watch them religiously like you do of beck. again, nope. i don't base my opinion on what a talking head says. i do my own research and base my opinions and thoughts on that.

i don't believe everything being said about obama and his adminstration just like i didn't the things said about bush and his administration. actually, i've gained some respect for bush since he's left office based on his actions after the election. i can't say the same for cheney, tho.

as for who is in 'the inner circle', i don't care. i don't care what their past is (true or false), what religion they are, or what color their skin is. it's what they believe now. they only things in one's past i hold against a person is if he/she was guilty of a sex crime or murder.

i'm not trying to be personal in way, shape, or form here, john. i hope you aren't taking it as such.

Pas, you cant say, Im not answering the questions cos u wont like my answers, cmon..

Honestly I have rarely watched Olberman or Maddow but I will make an attempt to.

As for not caring who is moulding this country.. sorry but I don't get that... seems like turning a blind eye.

As for me.. I'm not right wing, at least I have never considered myself that, I wasn't fully behind the war, nor was I against it. I'm pretty centered. If it was the republicans using these tactics, putting people like this into places of power with no oversight, I would be just as vocal about it. So I believe..would Beck, he isn't standing up for left or right.. he's standing up for the people, the constitution.

I don't even think the run of the mill democrats see whats coming... they better wake up.

You should too... were all apt to lose something if all this goes forward as they are planning it.

Famous last words  " If I'd only"

Very Funny Karen.

Where is his written agenda? Or stated agenda?

WHO's in charge of our media? Really. Who?

I sat in a church for 16 years that said Mormons were nothing but a cult. I never swallowed that load of crap. The day everyone agrees on everything, I'll personally give you a foot massage.

Yes. If I am to belive Beck read Mein Kampf for the reasons he says he did and nothing more.

• For the second time..I never said it negated anything. Which just goes to show how easily you draw conclusions.
• I think you mean former and dissassociated communist unless he has stated somewhere that he is now again a communist and I missed it.

And it's quite possible for you that that statement is truer than you think. Besides, communism is an ideology. You all throw it around as if it meant pedophile or rapist. What if your best friend was a communist? Would you disown him for having a view different than yours on how the economy should be governed? Where is the proof that this is Obamas agenda besides asscociates. Decades after he was censured, McCarthy is alive and well and being channeled through FOX news. I hope none of your friends are communists (they like to hide cause they be sneaky that way) for if they were exposed you..YOU would be on the list of aquantinces, close friends, companion, and/or confident. In that scenario, you wouldn't want to even know who Beck was.

Geesh. I grew up in South Philly. I didn't have anything to do with Mayor Goode bombing MOVE headqusrters and burning down an entire city block

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I duuno. Why? For the same reason a hundred other sites went off the internet that day?

If it didn't go through quick someone would be crying it's taking to long. Which in reality it has taken decades to long. Better question..why did they all sign off on it so quickly if it's so flawed?

You mean a group of private citizens who train for military duty in order to be ready to defend their state or country in times of emergency? I dunno. Was 9/11 just a fluke?

You tell me. And what is it that concerns you about it? And if it was so wrong, why did the houses sign off on it? How did Mr. 'scary fucking stupid' manage to outsmart them all again?

I see more of a pattern if I cross my eyes and stare real hard at my ash tray. Which 'real' smoke comes from and it doesn't mean it's on fire.

No ones gonna get shot. It's more fun to watch him implode.  And he's going to.

This video exemlifies everything I have been sayin. It leaves out that he was WRONGLY arrested and that the charges were dismissed and that he later won a settlement in court against the police department over the wrongful arrest.

The it quotes STORMS pamphlet, or in terms you can understand, their personal Mein Kampf. Which BECK has read but would deny the same aproach.

I love how they list the people that Mao Tse tong killed. Like no one in this country who was not a communist ever did. I suppose our government didn't single handidly try to wipe out the Native Americans. We didn't have a civil war over slavery and issues and go after one another, each side led by a president that was non-communist. This is FEAR-MONGERING. No different than lumping all Muslims with the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11.

Ella Baker. Let me ask you..as a member of a repressed race in this country, a country that believed in slavery and even after abolished held down that race. Denied it rights. Looked the other way at cross-burnings and lynchings. A country that took almost 200 years to say "You can vote' to that race...how long would you or could you tolerate it without seeing the end in site before you started looking ...looking, mind you...for answers elsewhere? And all they say is she worked closely with communists. Doing what? WHAT? They don't say. Considering the time and circumstances for all you know she was scrubbing their floors, based on that video. It doesn't even say she was a communist. At least they had the decency to call her an unsung civil rights worker.

That's because it really was shit and the smell ran them off. And there is no need for them to 'get on it' cause it's all more unsubstantiated crap. Inuendos. Fear Mongering. They don't even ask any real questions. Just present you with what they want you to hear. This just convinces me more and more and more how Beck is just a media puppet and wants you to be his fuck puppet. That was hard to watch.

What's sad is that they showed a lot of the good the guy is trying to do and they tried to put a negative spin on it. Yeah. The guy is a revolutionary. He has some amazing ideas on getting people back to work and fixing the cities. The machine you're reading this on was first concieved by a few revolutionary's. And the software. You gonna burn it if they out themselves as commies tomorrow?

 "At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. ... We must strive every day so that this love of living humanity will be transformed into actual deeds, into acts that serve as examples, as a moving force."

He said he was still a revolutionary..not a communist. In your video.

It's all so much hate and fear mongering. You picked the wrong clip to show me. It truly made me sick to think of the money and attention generated by that kind of crap day after day, hour after hour in all forms of media. Someone said something about the czars not being held accountable. We all are held accountable. Beck will be to.

He's abusing the constitution, taking advantage of it, and bastardizing it. He's turning the constitution into a joke. He's not standing up for anything because he's too busy hiding behind his faith, his alcoholism, his network, and anyone the network can provide from shrinks to dinks to keep more sponsors from leaving and losing more revenue.He hides behind the constitution. He thrives on peoples fear, hate, prejudice, and need to feel secure and hopeful. He really is a parasite.

Don't let Po' fool ya...he's a Glenn Beck fan, he even has the coffee cup.  

The same way an 11 year old girl can be kidnapped, raped and give birth twice yet not run to the police: They have been convinced that no one cares about their fate, that they have been abandoned, that if they don't work while sick they'll lose their jobs and starve in the gutter. They have been trained/educated into believing they are worthless, and that no one cares.

Same place I am now, just uninterested in politics, of course, I didnt have cable then either.

So... payback? thats a great explanation.. and reason.

Karen almost everytime you post a reply it includes some reference to 'well they did it too" 2 wrongs don't make a right.

I agree with u the Bush admin did its shitty share of things, (again, I'm not a republican) doesn't mean a hill of beans now, its the past, and if it was wrong then...Karen, why isnt it wrong ...now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNdyAr0q6U0

Of course we will never all agree, but he chose to stay at this church spilling over with racism for TWENTY YEARS.

I draw them from quotes, footage, records, body language etc.. I don't try to rationalize bad behaviour with more recent better behaviour. As they say, once a (insert issue here) always a (insert issue here). Its human nature. I suppose you would rather me think 'he grew out of his radical views" If so, you have WAY more faith in people than I do. Some might also describe it as gullible. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt though because its may more likely that he disavowed his communist and radical tendencies just long enough to get where he is now.

I pick my friends more carefully than that and no a communist can't be equated to a rapist and any single individual professing their communist belief's would not be of any concern to me. Adversely, do I want to live in a nation governed by communist ideology, hell no I don't so excuse me if I take offense to communists, or former communists making or having influence in any govt decisions that affect me. I also believe that when we did deal with Stalins communist regime, it was pre-cold war and I'm not sure we had a total understanding of what we got ourselves into at the time. Churchill did the same.

Frankly when your faced with two evils you choose the lesser.

Yeah and I'm sure Obama knew nothing of and didn't partake in any of underhandedness that has plagued Chicago for as long as I can remember. Does he\you really expect anyone to believe that? Two word's.. Occams razor.. given two conflicting ideas or competing theories the more simple or obvious one is usually the correct one. Same applies to the Rev. wright denial. Any reasonably minded person would find it ridiculous to believe that 1. he was never there when all the racist sermons were goven and 2. that none of it ever got thru, trickled down, made an impact. If you believe that, and I believe you do then your judgement and\ or common sense is being impaired in some capacity Po. Instead you justify it away with " I sat in a church and it didnt have any affect on me so why would it him" Well perhaps because you.. didnt believe the message. I believe he.. did. In fact, I'm convinced. It was when and ONLY when it was exposed and he was running from office that he distanced himself.. and even then it took a while and on tippy toes as to not hurt anyones feelings or burn any bridges.

Perhaps some Rev Wright youtube reruns are needed to remind u the savagely racist nature of the sermons there... and yet... he stayed.

Doesn't mean I don't see a pattern, perhaps you need to look a little harder.. or.. heres an idea... imagine none of it exists and everything is roses.

I disagree, hell democrats are lining up to get on his show, there was a black, liberal preacher on there agreeing with him earlier. I suppose he was in it for the rating too. And .. whats fun about it.. these are mega serious issues about how this country will move forward, how the fight for fundamental rights is going to come front and center. Glenn Beck..IMO.. is leading the charge to protect our liberties. I don't think implosion is in the cards any time soon, but w'ell see if your right, care to venture an implosion ETA? you seem pretty confident... a week.. a month??

Why because they left some things out.. were more good things left out than bad.. included.. so what if he left it out... like you said "he's not a reporter" surely u can dismiss a negated fact or two. Im more interested in what it does say than I am in making excuses because it didnt mention others. I think when it comes to this guy.. your pretty much OK.. with his past.... I am not. Ella Baker ive never heard of.

Whatever makes you think I wouldn't , Do you think if I could buy oil cheaper from Chavez, or north korean rice I would?.. got me bent there. I'd most definately sacrifice for what I thought was right. Thats somehow been lost in recent years. Does honor, pride, principles even exist anymore?

Well don't stop there, perhaps I did pick the wrong clip, sure has got you up in arms... perhaps u should download some full radio shows, or full TV seasons, he brings forth mountains of information that I gaurantee was researched and I gaurantee you have never heard. Perhaps you need more exposure eh mate?

I 100% diagree, he's already richer than a 100 of us will ever be, he says OVER AND OVER.. "I really hope I am wrong about this" every show... several times. I truly believe he is trying to stand up to the forces working in this country that is going to lead it in a Marxxist and Socialist direction. I also believe u know thats the direction it is heading and either don't care... or approve.

@ doc, Sorry must have missed those, I dont read every post in every thread.. and u have LOTS.

@ Xiandi.. thanks

@ Chasbo... You lost any credibilty with me quite a while ago... so.. eh.. Meh.

Damn right he is.

Po, i'll catch up with your last rant in the AM, got 4 hours coming. thanks for the rigorous debate, I do agree with and have heeded some of your points and it's good that you say what's on your mind.

A little light readin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0co98ndFTQ

and yes I know.. Malkin is a little fearmongering asian racist loon.. I know already.

Megyn Kelly 2012!

Van Jones is not a FORMER communist as Po' likes to keep saying. He's made no such statement that I've been able to find. Revolutionary is just code for communist, anyway.

Remember Alger Hiss? Do you remember the Rosenberg's? It isn't a myth that there were communists in Roosevelt's government; it's a fact. The idiots allowed the Soviets to occupy Eastern Europe  and enslave the population for decades until the system fell apart because it's a piece of crap way to run a country. Communists have murdered more people than anyone else in history. They are so pure sometimes, that they kill off the old and educated because they are beyond redemption, and send people to re-education camps so that they end up thinking right, like they did in Cambodia. Thanks to the peace-loving revolutionaries of the 60's, millions of people died needlessly, and now we have them in power. Is it any wonder that some people are angry now? They are starting to find out what they are in for, and they don't like it. The only ones who do are the ones that run it.

Van Jones is so stupid that he thinks carbon and carbon dioxide are pollutants. We are carbon-based life-forms, and without a decent supply of carbon dioxide, there wouldn't be life on earth. Plants NEED it; they'd die without it, they grow better with an even higher concentration than we have now. He wants to tax oil and coal to death and take the proceeds and hire people to retrofit homes and make solar panels and wind-generators; not only that, his scheme is race-based; he seems to think that people deserve a piece of the pie just because they are alive, not because they earned it or thought of something useful. He wants to eliminate the use of fossil fuels completely.

Glenn Beck is playing speeches by these people, and they convict themselves without his help. He ties the links between various people and organizations that are working together to achieve their aims. That is not bullshit, those aren't lies. If you don't like his histrionics, so what? Listen to what President Obama's unelected, and unaccountable people say. For you people that think everybody ought to just shut up and take it, nuts to you.

Viva La Revolution, right Po?