excellent question.

I was an early bloomer and I lusted after women long before I ever saw porn. They didn't have the internet when I was a kid but I sure managed to spend alot of time by myself.

 

The next question would be... Do you still masterbate? Ever seen a monkey? they don't have any outside stimulus to get them excited. They simply touch themselves because they like it.

I remember seeing something on TV where a psychologist was explaining to a group of high school girls the crazy amount of times the young male brain thinks about sex--the male brain just fires that way at that age.  It's a little cruel that the female brain doesn't fire like that until she is somewhere in her 30s.

It's all somene else's fault.

  I never heard that one before.  It's good.  I like it!

Ain't it always?

NT....you da man!

Now where did I hear that some place before? Oh sounds like politics that's it...

Pretty good there Night Train.

Oh and think about all this too! Wow how many kids are here on this forum? Just wondering...

But as everyone see's it for the good old best of times. We don't really care. But that is beside the point.

The man wants law enforcement for the internet. Well believe me there is a lot of that hard at work today. Politicians and so called good guys are arrested on almost a daily basis for PORN and/or other related internet illegal activities. Thus you say there is no law enforcement... believe me there is. And as the President elect would have it his way soon... he can pull the plug on the whole dang net at his idea of something some would think is a risk to national security.

People are always defining the way things are for whatever their reasons are. With only their ideas and thoughts to consider. Beleieve me when I say there is a bigger picture to the whole thing. Porn is just something you buy a firewall for and use at your home computer to block such stuff. So as your kids don't see things. But you can not stop things that people want... they will do what they have to do to get whatever it is. It happens everyday... someone will do what it takes to get what they want and who cares about whatever the laws are. Laws are broken constantly - even by the law makers that make them. The whole of the whole is this... Take care of your own and watch out for yourself and hope the rest gets out of your way. If it does not then figure away around it. People do me that way on the hiway constantly. Almost running me and everyone else in their way over. So who are we to try and stop them?

I could go on with this but the thing that matter the most is you! Not what the rest of the world does. Take care of yourself and those close to you. Look out for the other guy and be happy. Letting the world throw it's punches at you and feeling them hurts you and those around you. So duck that punch and hit em hard when they don't see it coming and stop sitting there taking another blow by blow till you go down hard. Get even with yourself and those things around you to be at ease with all of it.

Stop the porn - bye a good firewall and take charge of what is on your internet! It is your place in the world too. The law will do what it can do and you do what you need to do and hope for the best. Hope meaning your on the front keeping it all where you want it to be - not where it wants to be.

Anyway good luck with your problem and there are people trying their best to do what you want. You are not alone!

Not too shabby. Other than keeping the secret, since I'm not sure how she'd take it, and I don't want to hurt her. It's nothing sexual, no.

Actually, I want webmasters to follow the damn rules already.

Actually, the best filter I used was free. The firewalls actually don't help that much, because the ones I use require URL by URL blocking, and that would've taken too long.

 

Well said NT.

So you CAN relate to at least one female without viewing them as an object?  Can you not see that she has the same physiology as the "things" you see in porn?  And yet you know that inside that physiology is a person, a mind, a heart, and a psyche that you don't want to hurt.  Hmmmm....I think you just need to start thinking about what's going on when you want to turn to porn.  In the AA Big Book, alcoholics in recovery are asked to think about what they're really feeling when they want to turn to a drink....and use the acronym HALT (hungry, angry, lonely, tired) and find more appropriate means to alleviate those needs.

I'm also curious...where was your mother when you were 8-12 and looking at porn?    I'm not judging her -- I was aware when my children were looking at porn; we all rebelled together. They were in their teens, and I was in my late 30s, freshly divorced from a controlling man I had been married to for 16 years, and I had lost my faith in my religion, so there was no reason, in my mind, to not indulge, in all sorts of vices--and that grew old and we moved on.  I'm curious as to why some, like my family, were able to move on, and some, like yourself, got stuck. 

Legal if not distributed to minors, which I can tell you through experience has happened.

Yes, but how can I?

I'm stealthy. I can move around on the computer in .5 sec's, so I don't have a problem hiding things there. Plus I'm relatively paranoid. Plus, 8 was when I was exposed, and from there to twelve I had no more than incidental exposure. It was hen I was 12 that I then became addicted.

Yep.I would come home from school, and go on the internet, and become worthless. It would be the only thing I'd want to do. And if somebody wanted to keep me from it? It was not happy for me. I would become easily bored and detatched, and I wouldn't be paying attention because I'd be thinking about my favorite videos.

anyone can have an addictive personality....and react like that to all sorts of different situations.....I wonder how many partners of WCer's have said similar

ever talked to golf widows?.....