Seth, can you please educate me on something? For the longest time, I was pro-Israel and then one day I read about this wall of apartheid. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid_wall
Karen...just got back from dinner. Although this is John's thread, and this is OT, I will tell you that Apartheid was a policy of segregation based on "race".
The Security Wall was built to keep suicide/homicide bombers (and other just plain homicidal types) out by dorcing them to go through the security checkpoints.
A more accurate parallel would be if Pres. Bush ever got the border fence built to force people wishing to enter the USA through border check points....somewhat like the sides of a funnel. In fact, since it has been completed, the number of bombings has dropped radically.
There was never an "Apartheid" (a la Jimmy Carter) aspect to it. That kind of false argument tool likens something to a hated policy and by the inaccurate linkage forges negative opinion (and sells worthless books).
My comment isn't specifically about this conflict
Sorry if I misinterpreted, m1. I'm Jewish, but I don't think Christianity or Islam, etc. are any less valid: It's not a matter of either/or (for me) /or not (atheism, etc.) If a person behaves within reasonable norms...all's cool. The fact that I know you worship the Munkeh G-d doesn't bother me in the slightest, banana boy...
She rebelled, told her Father that she was dating a white american boy, he swore he would kill me if ever the chance.
NT...It wasn't a white. American boy. She just told you that to make you feel better. It was the fact you're a 'skinner' (and a damned fine one IMHO).
Edit: In response to NT below, it's a choice, I can't fix the world on a forum dear.. it's not a cop-out, I just don't want to see a bunch of folks I love here, at each other's throats over religion..and war.. who is right, who is wrong.. it is bullsh!t.. all of it, and having been through this a million times, I know how it ends.. topic locked usually so I'm going to refrain from further posting [in this topic] so no friendships are harmed, I love you guys
We love you too, TG...if it becomes acrimonious I'll unplug. Everyone has a right to be heard with respect and no fear...unless, of course, they disagree with me...then we break out the nukes...
It's a huge step up from the umpteen fisher price type games that have been overwhelming the forums.
Show me pics of my mother on a porn site and I'll be crushed but other than that, the dude abides.
You asked for it NT:
This site is a community site. As such, we expect users to behave with honor and integrity. Treat the person you post to or comment on a skin to as if they are sitting next to you.� Picture this place as a nice, comfortable resort surrounded by friends.
I absolutely agree:
There is really only one piece of information that is required here, what has happened yesterday, happening today and unforunately will happen tomorrow has been occuring since the dawn of time. It doesn't make either side right or wrong. The taking of lives for your own cause can and never will be able to be justified and will always be wrong.
I agree with that, Philly...but that is not what is happening. Israel is stopping exactly what you object to. If someone is out to murder you, you have a choice...and calm, logic isn't one of them when the killing is being done by remote control. You can die or stop th one who wishes to kill you. In this case they were given all the chances to stop. They did not. Therefore active intervention was absolutely indicated.