Sort of like my patriotic duty?  That kind of 'afford it'?

 and if you scrolled down you will see where i was corrected... right back at ya.

Could be. The worse thing he did was to make it damn near impossible for the republicans to win this election

You're not.  You're paying for the free tax cut giveaways you got from Bushco for the past 8 years.  You didn't earn them.  You didn't deserve them.  And now, they are going to be undone.  Simple as that.

So...your clever retort is that someone corrected your fallacy before I did?  Um...okay. 

Are you REALLY this self-delusional?!  Do you really think the other 74% of us who think this man is an utter incompetent and corrupt buffoon who has ruined this country's moral and financial standing in the world are just being spun to the left?! Hahahahaha!! 

Or is it more likely that you are going to cling to this proven fallacious IDEOLOGY no matter what the facts tell you?  And is this because, deep down inside, you now realize that voting for Bush in 2000 and/or 2004 makes you partially responsible for what has happened to the nation you profess so much patriotism for?

Yeah, I said it. 

If you voted for Bush, you owe your neighbors, the ones who told you what was going to happen in 2000 and then had PROOF in hand by 2004, an APOLOGY.  You were WRONG about Bushco and his grafting cronies and the rest of us have been proven oh so right.

But it's okay, people make mistakes.  Some of us are able to admit them when we make them.  And therein lie the seeds of forgiveness. 

While others cling to self-serving spin and dogma in defense of their own fragile egos.

So, are you going to man-up and apologize or continue to live in the Bill O'Reilly Only-Spin phantom ideology Zone? 

Ever heard of out of the pot and into the fire?  Quoting partisan hack jobs to refute what you perceive to be other partisan hack jobs is basically conceding the point.  FAS is anything but unbiased.  Try an objective source.

Wait!  That is the point of this article!  Finding one that is not hell bent to the left.

Sorry, carry on.

Nice dodge yourself.  You mean you did not?  Do you even have a real job?

Dont you just love that liberal line?  It is always - you people - never themselves, although as we see, they sure dont give a dime to charity themselves.  WHy?  Because they want to give "you people's" money to show their generosity!

Did it make your unsuccess possible?  Is that why liberals dont like to give?

God, ain't that the friggin truth. If you want to know who the people are giving money to charitable organizations.....ask any organization or any fund raiser......it's the small businessmen who give a couple hundred dollars to help the local band get to a parade 3 states away or help fund a blood drive, or whatever you want to think of.....it sure as hell ain't the whiners of the left......they just want to point at a need and say that "we need to take money from those sorry ass rich bastards and fix this!"

"I" (notice I said I) tend to think of a conservative as someone who believes he's responsible for taking care of himself, his/her family, helping his friends and those he interacts with.

I tend to think of Liberals as those who believe someone else is responsible for everything....whether it be government, the church, the mom and dad who ruined their life....but someone else is definitely responsbile for their predicament in life.

Dr Guy ...when someone may say something that is subsequently refuted/found to be incorrect that does NOT make it a lie.....it simply makes it incorrect.

A 'lie' is the statement of an intentional falsehood in order to deflect from the truth.  By definition the person would need to be aware of the fact [truth] for it to be a lie.

A person may be naive, deluded, or just plain ignorant/uneducated....but it ain't a 'lie'....

If that's true it is un-American and deplorable! It's also very hard to prove if it, in fact happens to one. The fact is that polarization comes full circle and bites "The Polarizer" and those associated with him.

That is the meaning of "reaping what one sows". Perhaps had he been a "Uniter" in a time when we needed one, and less of an ideologue without much skill at what the Electorate chose him to be this election would have been alot better.

Excalpius  is correct: Greed brought this on us, and that is the one thing we all share: our humanity and shared strengths and weaknesses. Let's start building and repairing instead of dividing and destroying. Can't we all live in a civil society with respect for eachother?

Always sounds good Doc, but hardly realiastic.  Do you respect everyone in society?  The rapist, the child molester, the thief, the drug dealer, the faudulent CEO? From there, it is all just shades of gray, take your pick!

That right there is correct, but lets try not to forget that this greed is not a Conservative or Republican thing as Excalpius makes it seem. Everyone got greedy. But it's my beliefs that thru mistakes people can learn, thru nannying people expect to be saved. Besides, one can blame the Gov't (regardless of party) for making it easier to get away with, but the greedy people were the responsible ones either way.

Hmmm, they all seem to live in the society around me.  Many are not in a cage, many are lesser shades of gray of the above and will undoubtedly vote on election day.  Where do you live?

I just happen to agree with T. Jefferson that "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine."