Are you incapable of seeing that the government run healthcare represented by Medicare/Medicaid is an entirely different system from the Insurance/HMO industry?
Hmm, not sure why you say this since I never argued about understanding healthcare, only what you said.
I don't know about you but the Gov't has shown time and again that regardless who is in the White House, they can't do anything right so giving them more power is probably the single dumbest thing anyone could consider. I love it when people think successful people (rich people) should have less money while unsuccessful people (the Gov't) should have more. It's no wonder our priorities are so fucked up.
My point is simply that we already have a government run health care system that works, and could work A LOT better if it was just expanded to cover all Americans. That would END the HMOs and the health insurance industry as it exists today, though ANYONE who wanted to could still pay for PRIVATE INSURANCE as an add-on. That's how it is done in Britain, etc. The rich and those who are better off have a private system in addition to the baseline healthcare provided to all citizens, regardless of income.
You point is simple based on your point of view, that doesn't make it the right point. I don't know what country you live in but I tried using Gov't healthcare when I was not doing well and let me tell you, I would rather pay out of my pocket if I could afford it. I don't find it funny to have to go to a doctor at 4 o'clock in the morning just to be within the first 20 people only to be attended at about 10 or 12 o'clock just so he/she can send me to a specialist where I will, yet again, have to go early in the morning to be one of the first in line to be attended, yet again, around 10 to 12 o'clock just to confirm what the first doctor said, just so they can tell me lets try this to see if it works (because they will try what my healthcare will deem affordable at the time. I don't like the idea of being the guineapig of a somewhat good system just to see what works best for the price.
Now we want to offer this kind of service to everyone, which last I checked we do, unless you earn too much that you can afford your own insurance. And who gets to foot the bill? The same people you all are insulting and claiming they do not deserve that which they earned (cause unless you can prove they stole it, it was earned). But the irony, if any of you were to become rich, I doubt you would be all for this crap. It's easy to scream "we need this for everyone" when you, or someone you know, will probably benefit from free stuff. After all, everyone loves free.
Lets just keep ignoring the lazines of this country and call them all unlucky Americans. We no longer have lazy people who couldn't give a rats ass about making a living if someone is willing to give to them hasle free. We no longer have people who lack motivation or education to succeed in life. Every American has motivation, the education and are hard working people, just those who are poor had "bad luck", all of them.