CarGuy1 ....to people outside of the USA those comments sound quite 'positive'.

Many countries [if not all] are nervous of ANYONE who is pre-occupied with flag-waving and sabre-rattling as it tends to underline a sense of 'might-is-right and we don't effing care what you think anyway so like it or we'll make you like it'.

It doesn't matter what country you are from....YOUR country will always be 'right and noble and just'.

Others may disagree about your opinion...but that won't matter if/when you blast them into the stone-age for their insolence.

Thankfully I don't have to vote for either 'side'...but I'm quite certain if I was American and Palin ended up as Pres I'd emmigrate.  'extreme' opinions re gun-control and abortion would just be unpalatable...

Doesn't bother me at all.

These are folks that are called Politicians for a good reason.  Thye will attempt to say what you want to hear so you will vote for them.  It's not as much voting for the person that is better than the other, it's more voting for the one that won't make our life any worse than it is.

I know, I have an attitude.  Comes from serveing in the military and being a government employee for about 30 yrs.

Personally I have never cared for "labels"...conservative...lliberal...democrat...republican...rightwing...leftwing...leftofcenter...whatever...I'm pretty sure I left quite a few labels out here...but it just kinda mocks the idea of a "United States"...just seems to me there is nothing "united" about it...since it seems the one thing we all agree on is to not agree on anything. It's no wonder we can't get anything realistic accomplished in this country with so much labeling and division. When it comes time to vote...just close your eyes a push a button...the results will be the same anyway...but it will make you feel as though you actually made a difference. But the jokes on you.

Here's a link to the 60 Minutes report I mentioned on credit default swaps.

CBS 60 Minutes credit default swaps link

The links I posted speak for themselves and any rational person who reads them will agree they do confirm what I said and are a greater source of independent corroboration then anything you've posted. 

I expected this sort of denial response from you.  That's the only thing I've known you to do, no evidence and backup for what you say and denials to others in the face of facts presented.

Nah...old age and been through these election lies long enough to smell the bull. But knock yourself out if you think you can make a difference...doesn't seem to be working these days since apathy has moved in and people don't care enough anymore to actually protest. I blame the people of this country for this economy situation more than the politicians.

The biggest source of the current financial meltdown that caused huge problems was credit default swaps.  Take a look at the 60 Minutes story I posted Web if you have the time.  This is why banking credit froze, wall st firms collapsed and why such a large bailout was needed.  It was also a result of a Commodities Modernization Bill pass unanimously by the Senate and the last legislation signed into law by Bill Clinton as part of the Omnibus Spending Authorization of December 20, 2000.  Had Clinton not signed the entire bill government would have stopped functioning (gone unfunded) until a new Spending Bill was passed and signed into law under Bush. 

Reagan said he needed a line item veto power to curb excesses by the Congress.  Bill Clinton sure could have used that as well.

BDBF: Just what we need. LOL. Give the Wall Streeters more gas for the fire...this time they'll so wipe us out that 95 year olds will be flipping burgers to stay alive. [What? Don't the Corporations have enough poor illegals?]

The 'golden parachuted' executives have already skimmed $20 million from the $700 billion designed to ease the credit crunch and get banks back to loaning. Which they haven't. They're using the money to buy up other banks!

Where are the President and the candidates? Doing nothing and being noisey about it!

For those complaining about social security, do you realize that democrats want to take your 401K's and transfer them to government control?

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/10/23/would-obama-dems-kill-401k-plans.html

Anybody who thinks raising taxes during this time in the economy is a good idea, really has no grasp of the economy. 

Obama wants to give more welfare to non-productive people of society, this is his 90% tax cut plan.  90% of people don't pay taxes, so them getting money back is nothing but welfare.

I want to put the last of my 2 cents in, I guess I’ll be centsless now? I think this thread was great! I laughed most of the way through it. I think both sides made excellent points and the global community as well. IMHO debates like these make our country that much stronger. For my part I think BigDogBigFeet was completely correct, I should have stated that it was meant as humor and intended for the conservatives in the group. Sorry, my bad, I’ll try to do better

Please stop quoting obviously self-serving Op-Ed BLOGS as factual.  You lose all credibility when you base a discussion of facts, which can be debated as far as their impact, on the rantings of some paid for politico spin/hack - from EITHER side of the fence.

Gosh ID "there you go again", to borrow a phrase, apparently (according to you) ACORN is a terrorist organization of thugs who want to expand welfare and must be closely associated with the Democrats. 

Why do you complain about Obama's plan to return federal Income Tax rates on the wealthiest members of our society to the pre-Bush era levels of the late 1990's?  Obama wants to rollback the Bush tax cuts to the wealthy so what?  He also says he will lower the Icome tax rates of the middle class.  So where is the harm?  It doesn't exist.

Ya you've got to wonder how the plan as sold to the Congress by Bernacke was to buy up the "toxic debt" from the Banks who were shaky and part of the credit freeze and within 1 week of approval it got switched to direct infusions of Capital (money) into Banks that they could then use in any manner they wanted.  No Restrictions. 

Probably the only problem Bernacke has had to face with the Banks is making sure there is enough to go around for all the sharks in this ocean of thieves.  Notice how there is no plan anymore to buy up the toxic debt and then assist Home Owners to stay in their homes with re-negotiated mortgages thus reducing the size of the bailout to taxpayers and helping some little guys.  The only people Bush and the Republicans want to help are the Fat Cats that's for sure.