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Using copywrited materials

Apophysis

April 28, 2008 2:32:40 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums

Hi all,

This is my first time writing anything in WinCustomize. Something has been bothering me though, I've been seeing a lot of renders that are right from a certain author and he's not getting the credit for it. Aren't we supposed to at least mention their names when they have done all the work? Give credit where credit is due! I uploaded a wall paper called Collosal and I made sure that everyone knew that it was from dfeaton316 at www.deviantArt.com. The only thing I noticed was other people coming up with the same exact graphics, but no mention of this artist? What is up with that? Give the man his credit!!

I admit, I havent always done that, but, and I know I've been wrong in the past. I'm trying now though, to give credit to the right people, and hope that makes up for the past?

This in no way implies that this was written with any one person in mind.

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Reply #1 April 28, 2008 2:39:36 PM
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I uploaded a wall paper called Collosal and I made sure that everyone knew that it was from dfeaton316


Are you saying you uploaded a wallpaper that you did not create at all? If so, that's a no no... regardless of giving credit...
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Reply #2 April 28, 2008 2:40:53 PM
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Not only is credit due, but permission is required.

see thisWWW Link
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Reply #3 April 28, 2008 3:08:59 PM
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Very true, and with this particular artist, I did show him the work I had done. Thanks RPGFX and Lantec!
Great points!
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Reply #4 April 28, 2008 8:32:16 PM
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I uploaded a wall paper called Collosal and I made sure that everyone knew that it was from dfeaton316 at www.deviantart.com

The only wallpaper you are allowed to upload is your own.

You cannot upload another's wall....

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Reply #5 April 28, 2008 8:58:53 PM
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jazzilady, if you see any work posted where the uploader is using the work of someone else and doesn't have permission included with the download, PM a mod to look into it.

As others have said, permission from the original artist giving the uploader specific rights to redistribute must be included with the work.
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Reply #6 April 28, 2008 9:32:39 PM
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Is using someones scripts to create a piece of art something you need permission for? All I see on dfeaton316's site are a bunch of scripts. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I understand that it works is, you input the script into Apophysis and it sets it up to make a given shape or design. If you create a piece of art from a few scripts, is that your own work or not?   It seems like copyright issues could go either way on this one.
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Reply #7 April 29, 2008 4:04:39 AM
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If you create a piece of art from a few scripts, is that your own work or not?

**Presuming this is for an upload here at WinCustomize** 

Personally, I'd answer that as a 'no' ...as the scripts were not created by the wallmaker.

Whether it be the art itself, or the scripts to make it in a program [that uses scripts] to generate the art ~permission would still be needed from it's ORIGINAL author, although the call on the scripts issue would be a tough one as there'd be difficulty proving that a person actually made and/or used that script.

Unless, of course, if that script generated something unique and identical everytime it was used, and was identifiable as belonging to its original creator.

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Reply #8 April 29, 2008 7:48:01 AM
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If a script created by another is uploaded into a 'do it itself' program then what, pray tell is the resulting wall uploader claiming as his?

If it is a robot painting a wall with a robot brush then it is the robot's art...not that of the person who pressed 'go'.

I think it's a very good reason to reject subsequent submissions outright.

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Reply #9 April 29, 2008 8:15:52 AM
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Just to add to post #8....

If PART of a wallpaper is a script-generated image which is subsequently added to....amended....revised...whatever...to become a complete wallpaper then the script's author 'should' be credited [assuming there is permission to use the script], and it really should be indicated exactly what was 'used' and what was 'new'.

Without explanation the impression in the text/description is the entire wall image was 'scripted' and thus non-original....

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Reply #10 April 29, 2008 9:37:09 AM
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A script is a tool . . like a brush.  Is permission needed to use a brush?  
And what if the script isn't used to generate a wall but is used to create an action or event (like in DesktopX)?  For those submissions, permission *is* required.
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Reply #11 April 29, 2008 9:48:47 AM
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So, basicaly, if you use someones script to make something for upload, you need permission...period.  
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Reply #12 April 29, 2008 9:49:52 AM
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A script is a tool . . like a brush.


If that brush moves on it's own.

And what if the script isn't used to generate a wall but is used to create an action


You don't think creating a wall is an 'action'?

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Reply #13 April 29, 2008 9:52:54 AM
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You don't think creating a wall is an 'action'?
I meant a script in a DX object that opens a browser, loads a page, and sings "Ave Maria". 
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Reply #14 April 29, 2008 10:21:57 AM
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Is permission needed to use a brush?

If the brush is someone else's ...yep

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Reply #15 April 29, 2008 8:04:10 PM
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If the brush is someone else's ...yep


Including Adobe's?
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Reply #16 April 29, 2008 8:55:12 PM
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If the brush is someone else's ...yepIncluding Adobe's?

Well...you have their 'permission to use' through the purchase of the product.

However...

That is to create images, etc from the 'brush', not to take and use the brush/script within another program, Paintshop, say...

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