Probably Shouldn't Have But I did.

and I sorta needed it.

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So the last few months haven't been the greatest and I needed a bit of cheering up.... and what better to do that than a new device that blows yer old one outta the water!!

Anyway, to cut to the chase, I got me a HP Envy x2 13" Touchscreen Laptop to fill in while I'm between addresses and can't set up my main PCs the way I'd like.  Put bluntly, I don't have the room, and this little laptop-come tablet pretty much handles what I need to do for now. 

More to the Point, I was pretty fed up [read pissed] with the POS Android tablet that I had.  I mean, you can't honestly call Android an OS.  What it really is is a widget-like engine that runs some piss-farty apps that pretty much do fech all for me... hence the investment in a Windows 8.1 tablet that doubles as a laptop.

And what a nice unit it is, too!  I love the 13.6" screen - so much better than the 10" I suffered each time I turned that Android POS on - and it has great sound with the Beats speakers.  I had considered a MS Surface Pro 3, but it was like 300 bucks more than the retail price of this unit and had no keyboard included, meaning another $150 to bring it up to par.... and then there's the 128gb SSD.  Yup, it was pretty hard to go past, and being I got it for $200 less than the advertised price, and sold my Asus lappy for $150 as well, so it didn't create such a hole in the budget after all.

So, the specs for those who can't be bothered clicking on the link....

  • Screen: 13.3-inch diagonal Full HD WLED-backlit IPS Display (1920x1080) Touchscreen
  • Processor: Intel® Core M 5Y10 (2.0GHz, 4M L2 Cache)
  • RAM: 4GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
  • Storage: 128GB MSATA SSD
  • Graphics: Intel® HD Graphics
  • Operating System: Windows 8.1
  • Connection: WiFi 802.11 (a, c) / BT / 2 x USB3.0 / HDMI / 3.5mm
  • Dimensions: Slate: 355.4 (W) x 215.6 (D) x 13.9mm (H), 1.46 Kg
  • Warranty: 12 month
  • Extra: (Front-facing) HP TrueVision Full HD WVA webcam with integrated dual digital microphones
  • Extra: Active Stylus.  

So yeah, it has more storage and RAM than the Surface I looked at, an equally powerful CPU and a bigger screen.  And it's quite zippy for what it is.  While it falls well short of my main rig speed and power-wise, it leaves the old Asus well behind and choking on its dust.

 

 

 

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December 5, 2014 7:05:33 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Next time...buy a car...

In my case it was a 2007 9-3 SAAB Aero convertible .... eventually with Hirsch chip and 276hp under the right foot....and good for 155mph [ok...so I've only been to 160kph in it....so far....]

Bugger computers....they don't go fast enough...

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December 5, 2014 8:40:50 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Jafo,

Next time...buy a car...

Not much use to me anymore... let my license lapse years ago cos  I'm just not safe as a driver due to problems with my hips, knees and lower spine.  My legs don't work as well as they used to, especially when sitting, meaning that emergence braking would be an issue and I'd be a lead-foot on the accelerator.

And before you suggest it, been there done that.  Qld Dep't of Transport deemed my injuries/disability insufficient to have a car modified to suit my needs.  So that was the end of that.

Quoting Jafo,

Bugger computers....they don't go fast enough..

Maybe not, but they don't guzzle gas and aren't involved high speed accidents with other vehicles, thus making them safer/less expensive to run.

Besides, I can multi-task and talk on the phone while I'm using my computer... try that while driving and you'll pick up a heavy fine or three.

Not only that, I like computers better anyhow.

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December 5, 2014 8:52:51 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Nice. I am looking into something like that myself. My wife's laptop will so give up the ghost so I may need to replace it and get one for myself.

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December 5, 2014 10:06:14 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Nice! Let us know what you think about it.

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December 5, 2014 11:32:26 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Mark, if'n ya can't spend a bit on your own happiness........

you can always send it to me

I didn't thnk I would care much for touchscreens either until I ended up with a "Smartphone"(Smart my ass, nobody still calls me) Yeah, it's Android, as is my new quad core 8" tablet.  Both came courtesy of some people very near and dear to me. One of them IS a member here so he knows who he his. I have some really awesome friends here at WC.  Happy Holidays to you and them and all the rest of the folks @ SD HQ.

Cap'n good on ya. You deserve it, ya scurvy old dog.

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December 5, 2014 12:54:27 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting starkers,

...

Not much use to me anymore... let my license lapse years ago ... I'm just not safe as a driver ...

 

You admit that you are 'unsafe at any speed?'  

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December 5, 2014 3:48:42 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I thought a touch screen was bs until I got a surface 2. Now I point at everything and the mousepad has barely been used. The only time it hasn't worked for me is on some websites that require you to "hover over" to show menus and the like. Point is, touch screen might feel odd if you use it for an hour but if you use it for a week you'll never go back.

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December 5, 2014 4:16:42 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Wizard1956,

Cap'n good on ya. You deserve it, ya scurvy old dog.

I agree. You only live once and boy are some of us running out of time.

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December 5, 2014 5:34:44 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Heavenfall,

I thought a touch screen was bs until I got a surface 2. Now I point at everything and the mousepad has barely been used. The only time it hasn't worked for me is on some websites that require you to "hover over" to show menus and the like. Point is, touch screen might feel odd if you use it for an hour but if you use it for a week you'll never go back.
Lol, try skinning / designing on a touch.....

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December 5, 2014 6:16:44 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

That's what I have my desktop for, and I wouldn't want a touch screen for that. But for a laptop/tablet where your fingers are practically already touching the screen it's great for tasks that don't require fine detail.

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December 5, 2014 7:11:31 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

isnt te speed limit in the us 85

Quoting Jafo,

Next time...buy a car...

In my case it was a 2007 9-3 SAAB Aero convertible .... eventually with Hirsch chip and 276hp under the right foot....and good for 155mph [ok...so I've only been to 160kph in it....so far....]

Bugger computers....they don't go fast enough...


But you do have speed limits in Australia
ohh just read Australia has a no speed limit trial this year..

As far as i know the US top speed is 85mph
Some guy told us that he is always driving his motorcycle with only a Tshirt and that he could not understand why folks from europe would drive in full leather equip
Guess he did not know that if you go 187mph+ every little bug will cause pain to unprotected parts

Quoting neone6,

Lol, try skinning / designing on a touch.....
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jexqp-MK0pI 
Nothing is impossible 
while it is only for the half apple it is possible that it might come to other devices soon.


Processor: Intel® Core M 5Y10 (2.0GHz, 4M L2 Cache)
 

Question is that basic clock speed ? As far as i can read about it its 1GHz and goes up to 2Ghz 
Btw i like how it looks hope you enjoy it so far  

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December 5, 2014 7:16:18 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting DaveBax,


Quoting Wizard1956,

Cap'n good on ya. You deserve it, ya scurvy old dog.



I agree. You only live once and boy are some of us running out of time.

Nope. We're ALL running out of time. The remaining time might differ for each, but it's decreasing at a constant rate for us all.

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December 5, 2014 7:19:05 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting benmanns,

isnt te speed limit in the us 85

Quoting Jafo,

Next time...buy a car...

In my case it was a 2007 9-3 SAAB Aero convertible .... eventually with Hirsch chip and 276hp under the right foot....and good for 155mph [ok...so I've only been to 160kph in it....so far....]

Bugger computers....they don't go fast enough...



But you do have speed limits in Australia
ohh just read Australia has a no speed limit trial this year..

As far as i know the US top speed is 85mph
Some guy told us that he is always driving his motorcycle with only a Tshirt and that he could not understand why folks from europe would drive in full leather equip
Guess he did not know that if you go 187mph+ every little bug will cause pain to unprotected parts

Quoting neone6,

Lol, try skinning / designing on a touch.....

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jexqp-MK0pI 
Nothing is impossible 


Processor: Intel® Core M 5Y10 (2.0GHz, 4M L2 Cache)

 

Question is that basic clock speed ? As far as i can read about it its 1GHz and goes up to 2Ghz 
Btw i like how it looks hope you enjoy it so far  

A mate has a DeLorean ....and you know why you 'had to get to 87mph' to go back in time?

Speedo only goes to 85.

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December 5, 2014 8:18:07 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting benmanns,

Nothing is impossible while it is only for the half apple it is possible that it might come to other devices soon.
Ahaa... So that's why the site is flooded with your new work

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December 5, 2014 10:13:20 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Ryat,

Nice. I am looking into something like that myself. My wife's laptop will so give up the ghost so I may need to replace it and get one for myself.

Quoting Island Dog,

Nice! Let us know what you think about it.

Okay, so I've had it a couple of days now and I'm impressed thus far... in both performance and useability.  While not as blazingly fast as larger laptops with faster CPUs, this machine is quite zippy and, unlike my Asus 11", does not lag or freeze up when running 2 or 3 apps.  The touch screen is very responsive and easy to use, whether typing or navigating between windows or web sites, etc. 

While the Envy x2 comes with an attachable keyboard and can be used as a laptop, it functions perfectly well as a tablet.  Now it might be a bit thicker and heavier than some tablets, but when you take into account it has a 13.6" screen and stereo speakers each side, that is understandable.  Thing is, I do not find it cumbersome or any more difficult to use than the 10" tablet I had. 

Also, it comes with a Surface-like kickstand and can be stood up on a desk/table to view movies, etc.  The thing is, it is highly portable either as a laptop or tablet and can be taken pretty much anywhere, though as yet I have not checked out the battery life for either mode.  HP have not provided specific times on this so I will have to test it under various conditions and report back with my findings.

Anybody familiar with Windows 8/8.1 will feel immediately at home with the full version OS.  Unlike its RT relative, users can install their own software as well as apps from the store, giving one greater options and freedom, and thus, users can customise their laptop/tablet with Stardock apps.  For some, the 128gb SSD might not provide enough storage space, given the OS and recovery partition, but I have solved that with a 64gb USB stick [and/or 1Tb portable HDD], on which I can take my photos, music and videos wherever I go.

All in all, I am happy with my purchase and believe it to be worth the money, though there are a couple of things I might change if it were up to me.  While there are 2 USB 3 ports, one either side, I'd possibly include a 3rd, so as to accommodate a wireless mouse dongle [not too fussed on touchpads] without reducing the ability to add other peripherals. Another thing, while not a deal breaker cos I can use my phone, is that I'd have a backwards facing camera for taking pics/video of things the webcam can't see. 

If there is a negative, and I say IF, I suppose for some the price may be a drawback.  For a similar or lesser price, one could purchase an equivelant or higher powered [standard] laptop with greater storage.  Given the Envy x2 can separable into a tablet, and probably costs more to manufature, it is likely to increase the price over a regular laptop or tablet, so this and whether it suits one's need should be considered when in the market for a new machine.

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December 5, 2014 10:24:39 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting neone6,


Quoting benmanns,

Nothing is impossible while it is only for the half apple it is possible that it might come to other devices soon.

Ahaa... So that's why the site is flooded with your new work



The only device I own with touch features is my phone, the reason why I do not contribute is because I need to learn too much for my exams - just have a look at the current time and you will understand hehe, also some problems with OD and my system, and if I find time I'm busy with ZBrush.

Also, I must not necessarily create something as we are all enriched by your work.

But if you present me with a surface, I will to try to paint a stick figure on it. Joking aside, I might contribute a icon or a wallpaper now and then to my pp but I don’t see me finding the time for windowblinds projects currently. It would also take to many restarts to finish the startmenu currently

But back to the touch topic I guess that in future we will see better opportunities for touch devices in the area.

It works very well on wacom products, true a pen is required, but the most natural way of painting something is with our fingers, that is where children start to do it, until they expand their skill and finesse maybe we will see the same thing on touch devices. I believe it is a great idea.

PS: High performance DeLorean engine kit… parts from the future to go back in time

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December 6, 2014 1:52:26 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting neone6,

Ahaa... So that's why the site is flooded with your new work
Just Kidding around Rollo

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December 10, 2014 1:35:44 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Okay, so I've had this little beauty a tad over a week now and I'm still very happy with my purchase.

For the time being I am using it as my main PC and have found it to be quite efficient and up to the task.

Yesterday I batch resized several images using FastStone Image converter and the HP Envy x2 handled the task like a breeze.

I also installed AnyVideoConverter to see how well it performed on this machine and it too completed its task quickly and efficiently.  I converted a 875mb AVI file to a standard MP4 and it took approximately 20 minutes, which is pretty good for a portable machine with these specs

I

Quoting benmanns,

Processor: Intel® Core M 5Y10 (2.0GHz, 4M L2 Cache)


Question is that basic clock speed ? As far as i can read about it its 1GHz and goes up to 2Ghz

I did check out the CPU and according to Speccy it is a 1Ghz with turbo boost up to @ghz.  Now this may sound like a small processor and that the machine may be under powered, but given it runs in tandem with a 128Gb SSD and 4Gb RAM, it performs very well indeed.  I have not had one freeze up or experienced any lagging even when converting video, so I'm fairly certain that it is sturdy and reliable enough to cope with the day to day use I will throw at it until I can again set up my big beasties.

For those who say: "Aw, but it's got bloody Win 8 on it."....BAH HUMBUG!!!!!!  Given that it has a touch screen and can be used as either a laptop or a tablet, Windows 8.1 is the perfect OS for it.  As a laptop I use it as I would normally, in desktop mode, and I can do the same in tablet mode because it has the full OS, not the RT variant.  The thing is, I can also use the Metro interface in tablet mode and take advantage of the ever growing list of apps available through the store, meaning I have the best of both worlds in the one machine.

So yes, it was/is a good investment.

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December 10, 2014 7:35:13 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

HP Makes great Laptops. I have a Envy17 with the native 3D screen. I love it except for the DVD player which has no door and just swallows the disk. Still runs Win7 But I'm building a Win8 desktop now. just installed the OS and so far I love it. I think you made a good investment also.   

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December 11, 2014 5:10:14 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Kinger,

HP Makes great Laptops.

I've not personally had a lot to do with HP laptops before this, but I am well pleased with this baby... and I love its versatility, the fact that I can use it as a full Win 8.1 tablet and not have to compromise with RT.  That arrangement was never satisfactory to me, and probably why the early Surface RT tablets failed. 

I need a full OS where I can install full programs of my choosing rather than apps of another's choosing from a 'walled garden'...  hence, RT was not my cup of tea.  Yup,  I so glad that I waited to get a full OS tablet and didn't get caught up in the hype of those early Windows tablets.  My Android tablet sorta served its purpose until now, but it was just a stop-gap measure and the HP Envy x2 is streets ahead of that old thing in terms of speed, reliability and OS... was never fussed on Android anything.

Quoting Kinger,

I love it except for the DVD player which has no door and just swallows the disk.

Yeah, I prefer DVD/disc players with a drawer, but these days more and more PCs, TVs and media players come with just a horizontal slot on the side somewhere.  My HP Envy x2 does not have a DVD drive built in, but I do have a USB powered portable one I can use should I need one to install programs, etc.

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