Mark Zuckerberg thinks he’s Google.

By on June 23, 2014 7:59:28 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

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Zuckerberg is changing Facebook’s privacy policy (again) in the very near future.

Used to be, they would watch their more than 1 billion members’ activity closely on the site. Now they intend to watch your activity off their site as well.

Facebook has announced that it will soon begin collecting data on off-site user activity, meaning that the social network will monitor the websites and apps you use when you're away from Facebook. In other words: if you frequently visit websites for electronics (such as BestBuy.com or Gamestop.com), you can expect to see advertisements for tech retailers the next time you visit Facebook.

"This is what Facebook does," noted Jeff Chester, and executive director at the Center for Digital Democracy. "Facebook is going to use multiple ways to track their users and sell them to their advertisers." – infopackets

What is even nastier, is that the “Do not track me” request sent by your browser will be ignored by Facebook.

If you wish to ‘opt out’, you’ll be directed to an outside site, but the ‘opt out’ will be cookie based and if you clear cache and cookies, they’ll be back tracking you. The same is true when the cookie expires. What do you bet Facebook will be putting a self renewing tracking cookie on your computer also?

Also, Facebook ((and others) track you through those little icons you see on sites:

Facebook already has access to much of this information through tools that it uses to measure the performance of its ads as well as through "plug-ins" that integrate Facebook features on third-party websites, but the company has not until now incorporated the data into its users' ad targeting profiles. – Huffpost

Ostensibly, they point out that this will make the ads you see more relevant. They don’t mention the detailed info they’ll be selling to advertisers. Thus the title of this article. All Mark Zuckerberg wants is to compete with Google for advertising revenue. You are a commodity and quite frankly, he couldn’t care less about your wishes regarding his tracking you.

Interestingly,

In 2012, Facebook settled privacy charges with the U.S. Federal Trade Commission that it had deceived consumers and forced them to share more personal information than they intended. Under the settlement, Facebook is required to get user consent for certain changes to its privacy settings and is subject to 20 years of independent audits. – ibid

My thought? I’ll miss my Facebook friends, but I won’t miss Facebook.

Source:

http://www.mercurynews.com/troy-wolverton/ci_26004328/wolverton-facebook-changes-tracking-practices-again

http://www.infopackets.com/news/9150/facebook-monitor-user-activity-outside-its-site

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/12/facebook-ad-profiles_n_5487372.html

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June 23, 2014 8:29:18 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

This crap is why I never went back to Facebook after signing up for an account.  The privacy concerns bothered me back then and would moreso now.

More to the point, I hate advertising as much as I hate bankers... parasites, the lot of 'em.

For mine, Zuckerberg can right royally shove his website sideways up his bronzed ginger [arse]

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June 23, 2014 10:00:07 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

We'll see how much they can 'improve my advertising experience' when their scripts and image bugs are blocked by default...

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June 24, 2014 12:17:07 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

That's why I only post up what I don't care what the public knows. Anything else I use private settings and never connected to any social media.

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June 24, 2014 12:25:41 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I don't see ads when I use Facebook. But then again I don't see ads anywhere on any site thanks to Adblock plus.

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June 24, 2014 12:42:59 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

They used to do that already a while back, through all the "like" buttons you found everywhere. If you were logged in and saw a like button, that means facebook just recorded your visit. It is believed to have been removed after some sufficient public outrage, but who can really tell for sure? And I wonder if being logged out / deleting facebook cookies will be enough for these new "improvements"?

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June 24, 2014 4:05:02 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Time to quit FB. 

Edit: Requested my account be deleted, it will take 14 days. Why so long?

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June 24, 2014 5:52:31 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Uvah,
Edit: Requested my account be deleted, it will take 14 days. Why so long?

Because they'll be making the privacy changes sooner, and you'll end up with their (probable) self renewing, undeletable tracking cookie before then.

That you're a member or not? They don't care. 

All he wants is the money from all those sales and resales of your information.

Meet Joe Friday's new partner.

 

 

 

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June 24, 2014 7:47:57 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Should have done it long ago. Oh well. At least that's all they'll get. Nothing else.

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June 24, 2014 7:50:20 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I don't know why you all are up in arms about Facebook collecting personal info about you on the internet. Google does it. No such thing as privacy if you use the internet.

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June 24, 2014 9:08:25 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Kona...read the title of the thread.

It helps.

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June 24, 2014 10:23:28 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Holy friggin moly.... What a bunch of babies... Why don't you lot drop all internet usage, and turn off your computers?

Every website you visit is tracking your 'movements' on and off-site, for various reasons. Even your ISPs are tracking you.

Are they selling/sharing these informations with third-parties? Most likely. At least some sites are open enough letting you know about it......

 

Don't like it?

Well.....

or

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June 24, 2014 11:25:21 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I don't think people being concerned with the privacy of their data is infantile: I think it's intelligent and their right to express that feeling needn't be met with stating it's somehow infantile.

The fact is that no one asks your permission and you don't get a commission when they do sell your info to advertisers and you don't even get a percentage of those sales either. That isn't quite right. One is left with little or no choice (really) but to suspend one's account since deleting it is not offered. 

When you signed onto the site (long ago), you weren't apprised of their plan to sell your data to advertisers and to sell these huge data bases to reap in even more money. Obviously the government agreed that their practices were out of line:

"Facebook, Google and other online companies have faced increasing scrutiny and enforcement from privacy regulators as consumers entrust ever-increasing amounts of information about their personal lives to Web services.

In 2012, Facebook settled privacy charges with the U.S. Federal Trade Commission that it had deceived consumers and forced them to share more personal information than they intended. Under the settlement, Facebook is required to get user consent for certain changes to its privacy settings and is subject to 20 years of independent audits." - Huffpost

They are clearly in violation of that agreement, and that will probably be the subject of legal action by consumer and privacy groups:

"The settlement requires Facebook to take several steps to make sure it lives up to its promises in the future, including by giving consumers clear and prominent notice and obtaining their express consent before sharing their information beyond their privacy settings, by maintaining a comprehensive privacy program to protect consumers' information, and by obtaining biennial privacy audits from an independent third party." - http://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2012/08/ftc-approves-final-settlement-facebook

since they ignore the browser setting "DO Not Track Me".

Worse, they disguise their avarice as 'doing you a favor by making their ads more 'relevant' for you" and rather than telling the truth about what they're doing with the data from the get go, they encourage you to complete in your profile.

 

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June 24, 2014 11:53:07 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I asked that my FB account be deleted several years ago.  I still receive, three or four time a week, a message from FB telling me there is a message waiting for me.  I just need to log in.  I don't think FB accounts are ever deleted, merely stored under a different category.  I'm actually considering doing everything important thru TOR, or some other browser that is more difficult for advertising / data stealing bots to track.

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June 24, 2014 11:56:10 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

^ that would be correct, Elana.

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June 24, 2014 12:19:37 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I hate Zuckerhut it isn't tasty, it is way to sweet and unhealthy - if you fall a sleep you better not have your wallet on you or it'll be gone at the party.
Same goes for Mark you have to watch out for your stuff or it'll be gone...

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June 24, 2014 8:01:09 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting benmanns,

I hate Zuckerhut it isn't tasty, it is way to sweet and unhealthy - if you fall a sleep you better not have your wallet on you or it'll be gone at the party.
Same goes for Mark you have to watch out for your stuff or it'll be gone...

Hey, I'll have some of those meds... looks like just the stuff I'm after for when I'm stuck in reality and wanna escape.

Quoting ElanaAhova,
I asked that my FB account be deleted several years ago. I still receive, three or four time a week, a message from FB telling me there is a message waiting for me. I just need to log in. I don't think FB accounts are ever deleted, merely stored under a different category.

I've only even been to FB once - to sign up - and haven't been back since, due to privacy concerns.  Thing is, I continued to get daily emails about knowing this or that person... like some sort of a carrot the get me to sign in.  Well that wasn't going to happen and I blocked the sender and domain a few days later. I haven't bothered going back there to ask that my account be deleted because someone else told me that their account is still active around 4 years after she requested its deletion, so I figured 'why bother'.

Oh well, so they have my stagnant account with little or no personal info, can't see that they can do much with it, given I've blocked their emails, etc.

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June 24, 2014 9:49:20 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

The President's Analyst

The film's themes include modern ethics and privacy concerns, specifically regarding the intrusion of the Telecom system, working with the U.S. Government, into the private lives of the country's citizens. it was released theatrically on December 21 1967.

...For this to work, every human being will be assigned a number instead of a name, and the CC prenatally implanted. Dr. Schaefer is "requested" to assist TPC by blackmailing the President into pushing through the required legislation.

1971

1971 is a 2014 American documentary film about the break-in of an FBI office in Media, Pennsylvania in 1971. Produced by Big Mouth Productions, the film is scheduled to have its world premiere at the Tribeca Film Festival on April 18, 2014

On March 8, 1971, eight ordinary citizens broke into an FBI office in Media, Pennsylvania. Calling themselves the Citizens' Commission to Investigate the FBI, they removed every file in the office. Mailed anonymously, the stolen documents started to show up in newsrooms. The heist yielded a trove of damning evidence about domestic surveillance of U.S. citizens.

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June 25, 2014 3:28:27 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Protoplazm,

The President's Analyst

The film's themes include modern ethics and privacy concerns, specifically regarding the intrusion of the Telecom system, working with the U.S. Government, into the private lives of the country's citizens. it was released theatrically on December 21 1967.


...For this to work, every human being will be assigned a number instead of a name, and the CC prenatally implanted. Dr. Schaefer is "requested" to assist TPC by blackmailing the President into pushing through the required legislation.


1971

1971 is a 2014 American documentary film about the break-in of an FBI office in Media, Pennsylvania in 1971. Produced by Big Mouth Productions, the film is scheduled to have its world premiere at the Tribeca Film Festival on April 18, 2014


On March 8, 1971, eight ordinary citizens broke into an FBI office in Media, Pennsylvania. Calling themselves the Citizens' Commission to Investigate the FBI, they removed every file in the office. Mailed anonymously, the stolen documents started to show up in newsrooms. The heist yielded a trove of damning evidence about domestic surveillance of U.S. citizens.

 

We already know that Google and the US government snoop into everything you do, think and hope for - thank fech the Aussie government ain't so damned nosey... yet - and know when you last wiped your backside, so what are you saying, that Facebook has joined the world's espionage ranks and is now spying on EVERYONE as well????

Well, I'll be!  What is the world coming to... all seeing eyes, all in the name of protecting your safety and providing you with reams and reams of 'targetted' advertising so's you'll know what to buy when next at the store?  For mine, I'd rather do without the damned advertising and just go to the store to research products based on my needs/wants... so both Google and Facebook can piss off.

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June 25, 2014 5:54:05 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting starkers,
Hey, I'll have some of those meds... looks like just the stuff I'm after for when I'm stuck in reality and wanna escape.

 

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June 25, 2014 7:47:26 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting benmanns,


Quoting starkers, reply 18Hey, I'll have some of those meds... looks like just the stuff I'm after for when I'm stuck in reality and wanna escape.
 

 

Me, too.  Gaming has worked for a long time, but I am building up a resistance to gaming.  Your meds sound more efficacious now. 

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June 26, 2014 3:24:28 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

"Stop the world, I wanna get off"

Has anyone found the stop button yet?

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June 26, 2014 4:18:07 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Uvah,

"Stop the world, I wanna get off"

Has anyone found the stop button yet?

 

meditation..

(focus on the center of yourself)

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence

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June 26, 2014 7:30:15 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting cardinaldirection,
(focus on the center of yourself)

If I can get my mind 'around' it... it is a large waistline, after all.

Unlike Zuckerberg... he's so skinny you could use him as a pipe cleaner.

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June 26, 2014 10:13:13 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Its all relative.

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June 26, 2014 11:05:32 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting ElanaAhova,

Its all relative.

Nope, he's no relative of mine... even if I believed in that six degrees of separation thing.

But if he wants to do the rich nephew thing and bestow a few little luxuries on me, I'll bite the bullet and pretend otherwise.

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