Mozilla puts Metro on the shelf

By on March 17, 2014 3:18:48 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

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March 17, 2014 3:30:39 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Okay, so what about the thought that for those that are using Windows 8 having apathy towards Mozilla.  As is said, life is a two way street. 

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March 17, 2014 3:42:59 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Well, one doesn't need metro apps to use Windows 8. I prefer the non metro apps better. I'm sure this would include Firefox as well, if I used it.

 

I much prefer the non metro version of IE 11  on 8

 

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March 17, 2014 6:46:05 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

I doubt many people even cared if Firefox came as a Modern app.  

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March 17, 2014 8:24:38 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

FF has had it's day.........most people have moved on to better browsers. IE11 and Chrome knock everything else out of the park.

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March 17, 2014 8:29:36 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

IE is better than Firefox? Thanks for the laugh. You can't even ad extensions in IE.

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March 17, 2014 8:42:56 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
You can't even ad extensions in IE.

Sure you can, where you been? 

 

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2339704,00.asp

 

 

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March 17, 2014 8:55:36 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Interesting. Still, I'll avoid IE. Things I like to do in Firefox, foe example set a minimum font size, is a headache in IE. And I'll bet IE is still a malware magnet.

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March 17, 2014 8:57:33 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I thought this was interesting....

Firefox for Windows 8 Touch, the browser destined for Windows 8's "Metro" user interface (UI) -- the part of the OS that relies on colorful tiles, mobile-style apps and touch -- will not be released March 18 as part of Firefox 28 as originally planned.

"We've been watching Metro's adoption," said Johnathan Nightingale, vice president of Firefox, in a Friday blog. "From what we can see, it's pretty flat. On any given day we have, for instance, millions of people testing pre-release versions of Firefox desktop, but we've never seen more than 1,000 active daily users in the Metro environment."


I wonder, often, when I see these types of discussions come up, how much of this has to do with people not actually having 'touch' screens yet. I don't have a touch screen, except for my android phone and I personally would not want to mess with any of the Metro stuff without one.


After having experimented with several Metro UI apps for Windows 7 , I can see where all the sliding and moving can be annoying with just a mouse.

That said, I wonder how popular FF is on devices that are touchscreen by default (tabllets, phones, etc.)

I've been looking for a new laptop or PC and not looking forward to Windows 8/Metro because of the whole touch screen issue as it increases the price (drastically in some cases) of laptops or desktops.

Having the 'smudges' and whatever from constantly touching the screen is also a negative for me.

Do they have stats that cover how many people dislike Metro because of the design of it vs. not having a touch screen to use it as it was intended to be used? I would be curious to see the numbers on something like that.

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March 18, 2014 4:43:28 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

When my keyboard becomes the touch screen then I'll be interested. Now though I'll stick with what I have. No hussle, no bussle. As for FF...when the kinks in Chrome are worked out I'll switch back. Stilll can't use it as it cuts out the buttons up top. No more memory leak but the button issue needs looking at.

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March 18, 2014 7:03:53 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,

Interesting. Still, I'll avoid IE. Things I like to do in Firefox, foe example set a minimum font size, is a headache in IE. And I'll bet IE is still a malware magnet.

You should probably get out there more and do research as I don't know where you get half the things you believe.

http://www.winbeta.org/news/internet-explorer-provides-best-malware-and-phishing-protection-compared-firefox-and-chrome

"According to NSS Labs, Microsoft's Internet Explorer continues to provide the best combination of malware and phishing protection. The security company also found that the application reputation technology used in Internet Explorer and Google's Chrome offer a "significantly safer" browsing experience compared to Apple's Safari or Mozilla's Firefox."

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March 18, 2014 10:58:49 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Island Dog,

I doubt many people even cared if Firefox came as a Modern app.  

correct.

i am sure there would be more interest if people would buy Windows tablets. but the few people that do are probably IE enthusiasts anyways.

right now developing Metro apps is a waste of resources for most software companies. particularly when it is not even sure if WindowsRT will be continued or merged with WindowsPhone.

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March 18, 2014 6:35:24 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums


no surprise there. Windows is having a hard time selling there own product....3rd parties shouldn't commit either.

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March 18, 2014 6:54:13 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

http://www.neowin.net/news/former-firefox-for-windows-8-developer-low-test-numbers-doesnt-mean-os-is-in-trouble

"In a new blog post today, former Mozilla team member Brian R. Bondy, who worked on the Firefox for Windows 8 team, wrote that just because the browser had a low amount of beta testers doesn't mean that Windows 8 and the Modern UI have low general usage. He believes that one of the reasons why there were so few testers is that Windows 8 does not allow any third party browser to run on the OS unless it is set as the default. He states, "Several people could have had a Modern UI capable Firefox pre-releases installed, but just never knew it."

 
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March 18, 2014 11:07:33 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I uninstalled Firefox completely. I found I was to addicted to the damn add-ons. I didn't even use (let alone 'need') a number of them. Firefox was also just getting to buggy.  Firefox seemed to just become all-about-the-add-ons more than anything else, like you shouldn't or couldn't use it without them. 

I like Chrome now. I like Chrome's add-ons and I use way fewer of them than I did with FF. The ones I use are more integrated to my needs and what I do when I am browsing where FF add-ons tend to be more about the cool tricks they can do. (just my opinion)

I installed Sea Monkey (It was Sea Monkey or Opera and Opera doesn't sync like it used to and is the worst when it comes to bookmarks) because I like to have a secondary browser for somethings and I am still not comfy with IE.

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March 19, 2014 12:15:52 AM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

I'm still a fan of Pale Moon, the slimmed down Windows-optimized version of Firefox.

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March 19, 2014 2:06:49 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I don't have a problem with Firefox- it does what I need it to.  The only downside is it's a resource hog, but that's not a big deal these days.

 

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March 21, 2014 3:56:41 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Firefox went downhill ever since version 4. 

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March 21, 2014 4:45:28 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Saw an email that said I should upgrade FF to version 28. Out of curiosity I clicked on it, got to the Mozilla site and the version ready for download was 27, not 28. Also...in fine print underneath it says you must agree to allow the yahoo toolbar, change to the yahoo search engine and make yahoo your home page. I wanted to tell them where to go. I used to like FF but these last few iterations are the pits! Despite the fact that I can't see the buttons on Chrome, still work though, it beats the hell out of FF without all the hiccups, freezes and all that not so good stuff. Bye bye FF

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March 21, 2014 7:59:48 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Uvah,

Saw an email that said I should upgrade FF to version 28. Out of curiosity I clicked on it, got to the Mozilla site and the version ready for download was 27, not 28. Also...in fine print underneath it says you must agree to allow the yahoo toolbar, change to the yahoo search engine and make yahoo your home page. I wanted to tell them where to go. I used to like FF but these last few iterations are the pits! Despite the fact that I can't see the buttons on Chrome, still work though, it beats the hell out of FF without all the hiccups, freezes and all that not so good stuff. Bye bye FF

 

sorry, but this is plain nonsense.

please do yourself a favor and stop clicking links in your email. you had more malware infections than all the people i know in real life combined. this is one of the major reasons for that. and i am pretty sure almost every malware-distributor on the internet knows your email-address.

 

 

this, and only this, is Mozilla's website:

https://www.mozilla.org/

the current stable Firefox version is available here:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/

the current beta and nightly builds are available here:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/

 

 

edit:

you have probably been here:

https://downloads.yahoo.com/firefox/

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March 21, 2014 10:07:29 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Uvah,
Saw an email that said I should upgrade FF to version 28. Out of curiosity I clicked on it, got to the Mozilla site and the version ready for download was 27, not 28. Also...in fine print underneath it says you must agree to allow the yahoo toolbar, change to the yahoo search engine and make yahoo your home page.

There are sites that bundle their crap in FF downloads, and you should avoid them at all costs ... cos malware; spyware; tracking cookies and other nasty crap is what you'd end up with. 

Having said that, I use Firefox as my default browser and I've not had an issue with the official download from Majorgeeks or the Mozilla site.  If you stick to the official downloads from reputable sources you shouldn't have any issues with toolbars and other nasty addons.

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March 21, 2014 10:50:57 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Uvah,
Out of curiosity I clicked on it

That habit will bite you on the backside more often than not.

 

Quoting moshi,
please do yourself a favor and stop clicking links in your email.

Sound advice.

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March 21, 2014 12:12:22 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

Actually, the same dialog with the toolbar options, etc., popped up here after clicking the normal in-browser update popup, but 'skipping' the detritus was no problem.  As long as you have the option to avoid the extra baggage, I have no issue with Mozilla accepting a little financial support from Yahoo.

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March 21, 2014 12:22:40 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Yep, if i want a slow, bloated over hyped crappy browser i will be sure to use FF. But i prefer a browser that works. FF sucks, it's always sucked and will continue to suck in the future. just sayin'

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March 21, 2014 3:50:10 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

I sense you're holding something back, Nimbin.

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March 21, 2014 4:07:21 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

*eating popcorn*

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