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Will ObjectDock be continued or not ?

By on February 27, 2014 2:31:08 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

c242

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Hi,

as a long time customer and subscriber I PLEASE want an honest answer if ObjectDock is still in development or not and if it EVER will work right on 64-bit systems (shortcuts always pointing to c:\program files (x86)) problem. I am really sadly tired of the update politics and public relations on this matter at Stardock at the moment (again). Seen too many good SD-programs going down the drain I relied on (aka DesktopX / RightClick...).

A general update-plan would be great and also a new list of dicontinued apps. Please. CursorFX (Multiplicity incompatibilities) and IconPackagers continued bugs (aka the nightmare creating and always losing changes on packages) would be also interesting.

Please, no "But it works for me !" posts here, we ALL know, there are long time reported bugs that where never fixed.

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February 27, 2014 8:12:46 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

If you drag an exe from the actual install folder location (not a shortcut on the desktop) to the dock, do you still have issues with 64 bit links?

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February 27, 2014 12:50:12 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Okay, that one works, but still is only a workaround. And I wouldn't want to do a whole new tabbed dock with that.

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March 4, 2014 11:27:52 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

But if the item in the dock is a folder containing shortcuts to executables in "C:\Program Files", the problem persists!!!

When you select the folder to expose its contents, you'll see the icon for the shortcut is invalid.  And then when you click on the shortcut from there, you'll get the infamous "C:\Program Files (x86)\...\{pgm name}.exe The specified path does not exist   Check the path, and then try again"

Even if you change the shortcut to use "%ProgramW6432%" rather than "%ProgramFiles%" (or "C:\Program Files"), the problem still persists.  Oddly if you update the icon source in the shortcut to use "%ProgramW6432%", the icon is presented correctly for what that's worth.

I've had to resort to creating symbolic links within "C:\Program Files (x86)" to corresponding directories in "C:\Program Files" for each case where this matters.

 

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April 6, 2014 4:57:22 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Hmm, I'm interested in this product but if it doesn't work well with 64-bit stuff that's a no go.  What's the deal here?  Does this work with 64 bit stuff or not?

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April 10, 2014 3:47:31 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Thanks for an official statement *sigh* I am slowly giving up after all these years, really....

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April 10, 2014 6:17:18 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Yes, ObjectDock does seem to have been on the backburner for quite some time now.  I upgraded to OD2 when it was first released and little or nothing has been done with it since then... update-wise, etc.

I run Win 8.1 x64 and haven't used OD for quite a while because it had issues... and no, I didn't submit a ticket with support because they were the same issues as everyone else, and figured one more ticket wasn't going to get it fixed any sooner, just help clog the support desk.

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April 11, 2014 12:25:55 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Probably too much time spent on projects like Tiles.  Is that being upgraded?  I never saw the need for that with OD2 installed

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April 11, 2014 12:34:52 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

OD2 is developed by a contracted programmer outside of Stardock Corp., I assumed there is nothing can Stardock do but abiding the willingness. 

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April 11, 2014 1:11:23 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Gaspershooters,

OD2 is developed by a contracted programmer outside of Stardock Corp., I assumed there is nothing can Stardock do but abiding the willingness. 

Well that's no help, then.  And if this contracted programmer has abandoned it, which seems quite possible given the lack of updates/activity, then we are stuck with a piece of problematic software that's of little use on our main rigs.

I still have a copy of OD1, might give it a try and see what happens.... it either works okay or it don't.

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April 11, 2014 1:44:18 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Don't be pessimistic yet,it has possible cease developed but not probably. The thing is as I mentioned before,it's really not feasible having "dock" on the Win 8 system;with tiles all over the desktop,a "dock" only made it more cluttered and messy. 

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April 11, 2014 2:05:53 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Gaspershooters,

Don't be pessimistic yet,it has possible cease developed but not probably. The thing is as I mentioned before,it's really not feasible having "dock" on the Win 8 system;wiith tiles all over the desktop,a "dock" only made it more cluttered and messy. 

That would depend on how one used Win 8.  I run it the same way as I did Win 7, and running OD2 would be no different... if it worked properly.

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April 11, 2014 4:24:08 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

*sigh* With Start8 installed (a Stardock product) I have EVERY need for a dock on the desktop. I don't need it on touch or a tablet (although there is a dock for Win 8 (Launch 8), guess by whom ? - Yes, STARDOCK).

And Gaspershooters please get Your facts right, ObjectDock is developed by the same guy that does FENCES (regulary updated, no need for it on Win 8 also folloowing Your 'logic').

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April 11, 2014 7:28:31 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting c242,

And Gaspershooters please get Your facts right, ObjectDock is developed by the same guy that does FENCES (regulary updated, no need for it on Win 8 also folloowing Your 'logic').

Huh?? I only meant "ObjectDock",not about the author,Fences whatsoever....................and couldn't it obvious that  "ObjectDock" and Fences are totally different products?? Therefore the aimed markets and usabilities are pole apart too ?? Am I missing something that I shouldn't??   

 

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April 11, 2014 1:05:12 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Following Your logic Fences is of no use on Win 8 also, so no need to devolop it further, But is IS. OD+ although as useful is not.

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April 11, 2014 3:55:39 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Gaspershooters,
The thing is as I mentioned before,it's really not feasible having "dock" on the Win 8 system;with tiles all over the desktop

Another false statement. You do NOT have tiles all over your DESKTOP with Windows 8 /8.1. 

YOU HAVE TILES ON YOUR START MENU 

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April 11, 2014 8:49:25 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Ok,I retracted that statement as I haven't use Win 8 yet and must missed the part Phoon mentioned about. However,based on that (Tiles shown on Start Menu),OB is still too old to attract users on current market trends,on the other hand,"Launch 8" is quite incentive than that OD.      

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April 11, 2014 9:45:33 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Gaspershooters,

Ok,I retracted that statement as I haven't use Win 8 yet and must missed the part Phoon mentioned about. However,based on that (Tiles shown on Start Menu),OB is still too old to attract users on current market trends,on the other hand,"Launch 8" is quite incentive than that OD.      

You make alot of assumptions, don't you!  Like how can you know users think OD is too old?  I've seen nothing on current market trends to suggest any such thing.  For a start, Win 8/8.1 are relatively new and take up such a small percentage of market share, so it it doubtful that Win 8 users are setting any trends.  No, ObjectDock is still a vital piece of software to many users of Win 7 and older OSes, meaning that it is the right age to those users. 

Granted, Launch8, Start8 and Decor8 are great additions to the Windows 8 OS, but none replace OD as a shortcut management program, and being the greater amount of time is/would be spent on the desktop, OD is still a useful [if not vital] app for many Win 8 users.  To think/say otherwise is like putting words in someone else's mouth.

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April 11, 2014 10:11:39 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Have you know the demographic users on Stardock?? Especially on customized parts??  It's aged.  And search it on Google,all of relative articles (non-Stardock ones about OD) are all back to 2 or long years. The only I found the newest is this one:http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/objectdock-quickly-customize-your-desktop-and-increase-its-functionality-windows/ and that was April,2013. 

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April 12, 2014 5:00:28 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

'as I haven't use Win 8 yet' *tilt*

So You are writing about things You really have no clue of.

Proof: "Launch 8 is quite incentive than that OD."

I'll tell You a 'secret': You can use Win 8 as if it was Win 7. Seen any statistics about, how many people actully use Win8 with tiles and how many with the desktop enabled ? And With Win 8.1s current update the system even decides to start with the desktop with no touchscreen attached. Next update will even have a half decent start menu back.

Thanks for participating, now can You just leave the thread to people who know, what they are writing about ? Thank You.

 

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April 12, 2014 5:03:29 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Gaspershooters,
It's aged.  And search it on Google,all of relative articles (non-Stardock ones about OD) are all back to 2 or long years. The only I found the newest is this one:http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/objectdock-quickly-customize-your-desktop-and-increase-its-functionality-windows/ and that was April,2013. 

Maybe, just maybe the reason is there has not been any update nor bugfixing nor listening to users since then ?

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April 12, 2014 7:54:18 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Oh,thanks for encouragements,I am really appreciated that.  

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April 12, 2014 8:23:01 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Hi everyone,I see all the ruckus.I also would be very interested in knowing if OD will either be ongoing development or discontinuing the program.I am running OD on Windows7 64 bit ultimate and I have had only one problem with it. The problem is that when I bring up the user interface to change docks and tiles it stops responding for about 30 secs. then all is fine just a small annoyance,but otherwise OD runs fine on my 64bit OS.

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April 12, 2014 8:41:15 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I use OD+ on Win7 64 bit. Works as it should with only the infrequent crashes where it stops working and needs to close. That happened once or twice within the last six months so no biggie. But knowing whether or not OD will get some love is a good thing.

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April 12, 2014 4:07:53 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

I'm not sure how you can say it "works as it should"

It works fine if you only deal with 32-bit applications and never need to use the sys tray - maybe.

 

- it doesn't create icons for 64 bit apps correctly and while it is thoroughly pathetic that 64 bit has been around for ages and software is rarely 64 bit even today, there are more and more 64 bit apps coming around

- it doesn't handle the sys tray at all (so you can't really get rid of the task bar) - could be a plug in for this but the app should do it by default since the sys tray has been in windows since the dawn of time

- it doesn't handle steam apps correctly - and granted steam isn't a part of windows but when you consider it has 65m users and Stardock themselves distribute their games thru Steam you might think it would get some consideration.  If windows itself is able to figure out what icon belongs to a Steam shortcut, then OD should be able to do so as well

Considering the absolute zero responses to this thread or the other one I posted here I would guess this product is dead, which is pretty sad.

I could probably get a response on this faster posting about it on the GalCiv III forum, which is pretty pathetic.

 

PS - Rocketdock has similar limitations and problems, which would suggest that this seemingly basic functionality is due to windows itself or something, which makes this product totally useless and is another reason to love/hate MS (I develop in C#/.net and generally love MS but they do some damn annoying things - like IE being a constant thorn in the side of web developers/designers, rendering HTML in outlook with Word, plenty of other stuff, and now this?).

 

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