Where have all the Windowblinds Master Skinners gone?

You are missed...

By on November 22, 2013 10:38:59 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

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I have 4 out of the 5, and sometimes all 5 Master Skins on the front page of WC right now. I spend 8-10 hours a day, 7 days a week designing and trying to improve my skins, and when they are done I want to post them to the site, but I can't. I can't because I feel like I should wait for others to submit their Master Skins so they have front page time, but alas, no one submits and I am beginning to wonder why.

There are 44 Master Windowblinds skins in the gallery right now, and since I became a Master around a year and a half ago, 20 of them are mine and I have one other finished (Allure) and just waiting for time to pass, and one more (Brilliance) in the works!

So where are the other Master Skinners?  I know why vStyler and Xiandi are not skinning right now, but what about the other Masters?  TomRichter, MikeB314, adni18, theAVMAN, Vampothika and other Master Skinners... where are you? I miss seeing your works, and I am sure others miss them too.  

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November 22, 2013 11:19:56 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

It may be all too easy to just say folks do move on or that life has been taking up all their time but I do think that is part of the answer. 

There also could be some feelings in all skinners/users that needed changes or updates were just never developed for the software.  No doubt that some of this is caused when new versions of OS are released and changes are made that make life difficult for Stardock and other developers of desktop customizing software.

The one thing that also cannot be ignored is that with new computing devices being released much more often, then when most of us folks here became aware of computing, that new users just don't see the need to customize.

Just some points to ponder. 

Has desktop customizing become a hobby or activity that is or has reached it's end of popularity? 

I think there will always be folks that will want to change what the delivered OS gives you as a graphical user interface, we will always want to personalize it.  Well that's my opinion. 

 

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November 22, 2013 11:26:14 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Tom, adni18 just released a free skin. Agartha. And updated Bauhaus, a master.

 

But yes, where have all the Masters gone?

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November 22, 2013 11:50:44 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Working on it

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November 22, 2013 12:09:17 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting RedneckDude,

Tom, adni18 just released a free skin. Agartha. And updated Bauhaus, a master.

 

But yes, where have all the Masters gone?

 

Yep, I know Jim. I was referring to new Master Skins. 

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November 22, 2013 12:09:40 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting neone6,

Working on it

 

Good to hear Andrew!

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November 22, 2013 3:48:59 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Andy gives um too many good free skins!!!

 

AS for my filler work for masters,oh well.Is what it is.

 

Gonna stop now,.

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November 22, 2013 7:23:09 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

i never though being a skinner would be an easy task,well its not, but its really difficult to design you should spend more hours and weeks to do it until you make a perfect skin.second problem is the early new OS released by microsoft.

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November 22, 2013 7:31:54 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Yeah it seems the Master skins died out some time ago. Seems your the only one left Tom.

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November 22, 2013 9:44:02 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

The major hit were those Mycolors Collegiate/Car/Sports themes's sale isn't mirth. Considering you have spent times working on them and the end result is naught. Sadly,this is included master skins by other skinners. 

 

Customized interface is some kind of predilection that only small of group really enjoy.   

 

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November 22, 2013 10:12:54 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting WebGizmos,

Yeah it seems the Master skins died out some time ago. Seems your the only one left Tom.

I disagree...seems to me you're one Master Giz.

Time for a Masterpiece of your own...

 

Besides...we have other Masters you folks have forgotten: Master WOM, Master Jafo, Master I.D., Master frogboy... Master Quentin... Master HG_E... Master ERK... Master Hankers...

Just because they have additional ranks now, doesn't mean they've "lost the touch".

 

Maybe they can be appreciated and encouraged...

 

 

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November 22, 2013 10:44:23 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting DrJBHL,
Maybe they can be appreciated and encouraged...

They are much appreciated, but they are no longer skinning, which is the point.

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November 22, 2013 10:48:45 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

OK I am going to add my 2 cents worth and I am pretty sure it will piss some people off. With regards to master Windowblinds skins I have purchased some in the past and I even have a few of yours Tom. I know that there is a lot of time put into these skins but to be honest (and this is just my opinion) most are very similar at least in design. Yes colors may change with slight variances with start button graphics and so on but for the most part you have a square start menu and rectangle taskbar. When I look back at some of the old Windowblinds skins it seems as if there was a lot more creativity or at least imagination put into them. I am talking about blinds such as one called Iron Horse  http://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/6410/ or ttp://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/5717 or even http://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/6356/. There have been more modern blinds that have been created also that have had some great design elements. Most of these skins are not master skins. I understand that I am only one person with only one voice and I certainly do not speak for everyone but give me more master skins that do not look like a shape drawn in geometry class and I will gladly purchase a lot more. There is a time for box shaped blinds and perhaps they are considered more usable but I for one like to have some fun with themes and those type of skins just do not cut it.

Yes this swayed from the original topic somewhat but perhaps if some of the creative blind skinners here were actually masters my wallet would be a lot lighter.  

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November 23, 2013 12:01:11 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting RedneckDude,


Quoting DrJBHL, reply 10Maybe they can be appreciated and encouraged...

They are much appreciated, but they are no longer skinning, which is the point.

 

Now I know for a fact you've heard of casting bread upon the waters, Jim...

 

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November 23, 2013 1:13:26 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I looked it up and still don't get your meaning, Doc. 

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November 23, 2013 1:42:01 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Casting bread upon the waters means simply that by (in this case) letting those people who rarely (if ever) see appreciation of their art and them as artists, they might be encouraged to return to those efforts to some degree...that's in the Christian sense. Jews have a different custom done at New Years called Tashlich...and it has to do with forgiveness.

It is also a saying. It means that if you give, you will receive, and in that sense it usually refers to charity. It's not too different from other religions' notions of karma, or the Wiccan concept that what you do, good or evil, will come back to you three times over.

Ties into the Golden Rule, as you can see.

Ultimately, we're all a lot more alike than we are different, after all  

 

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November 23, 2013 2:22:09 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting DrJBHL,
Ultimately, we're all a lot more alike than we are different, after all

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November 23, 2013 7:23:41 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Still here. Just busy "not skinning so much".

I don't do pay skins anymore, but I'm am working (slowly) on a couple of free ones!

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November 23, 2013 8:54:53 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting JuniorCrooks,

OK I am going to add my 2 cents worth and I am pretty sure it will piss some people off. With regards to master Windowblinds skins I have purchased some in the past and I even have a few of yours Tom. I know that there is a lot of time put into these skins but to be honest (and this is just my opinion) most are very similar at least in design. Yes colors may change with slight variances with start button graphics and so on but for the most part you have a square start menu and rectangle taskbar. When I look back at some of the old Windowblinds skins it seems as if there was a lot more creativity or at least imagination put into them. I am talking about blinds such as one called Iron Horse  http://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/6410/ or ttp://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/5717 or even http://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/6356/. There have been more modern blinds that have been created also that have had some great design elements. Most of these skins are not master skins. I understand that I am only one person with only one voice and I certainly do not speak for everyone but give me more master skins that do not look like a shape drawn in geometry class and I will gladly purchase a lot more. There is a time for box shaped blinds and perhaps they are considered more usable but I for one like to have some fun with themes and those type of skins just do not cut it.

Yes this swayed from the original topic somewhat but perhaps if some of the creative blind skinners here were actually masters my wallet would be a lot lighter.  

 

Understood JC... I have tried adding more "glitz" so to speak to some skins, even in some of my past free skins, but I also stress functionality now in my skins. I also hate the overuse of transparency in skins as seeing what is under the window you are currently using distracts from what you are actually trying to see. Maybe it's because of my having vision problems at times, not sure. I also get people telling me I should not charge for my skins, but as I am on a fixed income I cannot afford to do that all the time.

But anyway I understand what you're saying and hopefully this skin will meet more with people's approval, and I'll try adding a little more "glitz" in

future skins too...

http://forums.wincustomize.com/450293/page/1/#3419956  

... and don't worry about being off topic, I don't mind at all.

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November 23, 2013 2:06:25 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

A suggestion. Why not a contest of Masters past and present. I don't know what kind of prize could be offered but the idea sounds good. Or...a collaboration among them. You can call it "A Master Suite" 

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November 23, 2013 3:18:29 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Uvah,

A suggestion. Why not a contest of Masters past and present. I don't know what kind of prize could be offered but the idea sounds good. Or...a collaboration among them. You can call it "A Master Suite" 

How about getting suggestions from members for a nice blind or suite, the member who's idea is chosen gets some sort of prize and the master who's skin which is chosen gets a prize also. Just an idea off the top of my head but maybe there is a better idea. 

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November 23, 2013 5:01:40 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

There could be another option, appreciating the current budding skinners and rewarding them for their work. I see there are skinners here that have a great talent but they aren't getting the appreciation they deserve. 

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November 23, 2013 8:47:30 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Where have all the Windowblinds Master Skinners gone?

When I just looked I believe the above is the name of this thread.

All the Masters are deserving of the title but it doesn't change the fact that some are active but don't skin anymore for their own reason which I respect. To busy, ran out of ideas, just don't feel like skinning anymore, or whatever. To have a contest of just Masters is fine but their needs to be a thread titled as such to see how many would actually commit. Not much sense in having a contest for say 2 to 5 Masers. Also several very talented people would be left out simply because they don't have that title. 

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November 23, 2013 10:29:11 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting DaveBax,

Where have all the Windowblinds Master Skinners gone?
When I just looked I believe the above is the name of this thread.

All the Masters are deserving of the title but it doesn't change the fact that some are active but don't skin anymore for their own reason which I respect. To busy, ran out of ideas, just don't feel like skinning anymore, or whatever. To have a contest of just Masters is fine but their needs to be a thread titled as such to see how many would actually commit. Not much sense in having a contest for say 2 to 5 Masers. Also several very talented people would be left out simply because they don't have that title. 

That is an easy fix Dave, have it open for all. I think because the thread was talking about Master Skinners that is why it was suggested to have them involved but there is no reason it could not be open to all which I am for.

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November 23, 2013 10:54:13 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

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November 24, 2013 12:43:39 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I thought skinning was about art, and master skinning was about cash.

 

If masters want to pass because it is not lucrative, then they are true masters by definition.

How this evolved into a contest thread is moot,but is way off point as far as "where have all the masters gone".

Ultimately I think the users are getting great skins regardless of titles.

 

Although, some users who contribute regularly and do so with nice work, may deserve a promotion just to show some appreciation for all the time and work spent skinning.This seems to be a very slow process, a bunch of talent is available to choose from, and I refer to others, not myself.

 

I would imagine the free skins attract way more attention than pay skins anyhow.Hell, I'm cheap, I like free.

 

I think a true skinner skins regardless of time, money, or any other reason short of death or dismemberment.

I have one of the worst pains twenty four hours a day from carpal and I still skin.So. who cares is my opinion on where they are at.

 

Cheers.

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