Speaking of Windows 8

By on September 25, 2013 4:52:45 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

kona0197

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Would it make my friends system run any faster? It have Windows 7 on it right now with just about everything turned off or disabled and it still acts like a dinosaur. Keep in mind this is on a fresh install of 7, no malware or viruses. I think the CPU is to blame here. Web pages take forever to load, programs take forever to execute. 

System in question:

AMD E1-1200 Dual Core APU with Radeon 7130 graphics, 1.4 GHz

4 GB DDR3 memory

320 GB hard drive

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September 25, 2013 5:15:34 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

A up-to-dated hareware and clean OS software is needed. 

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September 25, 2013 6:34:59 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

To make the system faster an investment into a SSD would not hurt 

Some questions: Windows7 Aero is turned on or off; or does it use the windows standart skin ?
Keep in mind windows8 is a lot lighter... 
I wanted to review the specs of the GFX card /mem of the GFX and so but cant find any specs of it.
Another question: did you install board specific drivers and the gfx drivers - i only ask this since i assume you use windows7 without service pack...
I had this on a laptop before the systems reaction was slow since the gfx driver was missing everything build up slowly explorer desktop and so on. 


Kona can you get more specs together of the card and the HDD in use ?
is it a 5400rpm or is it 7200rpm also cache size would be nice to know...


 

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September 25, 2013 6:50:49 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

@Gaspershooters - I can't update the hardware, with the exception of installing a SSD. It's a laptop.

@Roloccolor - No money for a SSD at this time. Windows Areo is turned on, transparency is turned off, drop shadows turned off, using the default skin, turned the color to black.

GFX card is the Radeon 7310M, it is built in to the CPU, it has 384 MB to work with. Plays Command and Conquer really well. 

Hard drive is a Seagate. 320 GB, 5400 RPM, 8 MB cache. Not the best drive. 

I have a Windows 8 disk with clean COA at my disposal, wondering if it would make any difference. Keep in mind the CPU is really wimpy. Here is the details on the CPU:

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bobcat/AMD-E%20Series%20E1-1200.html

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September 25, 2013 12:07:35 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

The CPU should be good enough for windows8 since it runs on tablets smoothly

*My guess would be the HDD..
 i believe its not the integraded GPU that is holding back since normaly windows7 uses round about 100-130mb video memory and that is with aero enabled.

 If you have nothing to loose i would say go and install plate eight its worth a try.
 Windows8 Manages resources better and more efficient and you might be able to get a bit boost out of it.

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September 25, 2013 3:15:18 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Could be a dying hd. I have a compaq6710

1.5 gigddr2

20gig hd

T7100 core 2 duo 1.8 gh.No glass or Aero effects due to video, but, run seven like a dream. No lagging or crashing,runs apps quickly.

 

Try a hd , even if just temporary from another laptop perhaps.

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September 25, 2013 3:19:09 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

How about programs or running services. Background quiet loading of programs readying for use at boot and such.
windows search disabled?

 

You might run some of windows performance and information tools to see if a specific app or setting is holding up performance also.

 

On my above spec, integrated graphics, not sure what.Sucky anyhow, but runs still.So not your issue.

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September 25, 2013 3:55:11 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I don't think it's the hard drive. I really think it's that crappy CPU. I have a decent video card so it runs Areo just fine. It just seems the system lags. 

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September 26, 2013 10:30:02 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Eight will run faster on it than 7 does, unless it's a hard drive problem.

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September 27, 2013 1:31:54 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Well I tried 8 on the machine. It runs really fast on the notebook. Problem was the product key is being used on another machine so we had to put 7 back on the notebook. This time I used a barebones copy of 7, activated the copy with the COA on the notebook so it's all legit and legal, and installed drivers. Guess what? It's running quicker than it was. I'm happy so far. Wish we could have keep 8 on the machine. None of us can afford a windows 8 license at this time. 

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September 27, 2013 3:36:19 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

sounds like it was the JUNK(toolbars 'free' games 'free' utilities etc) that the manufacturers like to fill up a computer with, that was slowing the comp down.

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September 27, 2013 3:50:56 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Yeah it was something along those lines. The computer still isn't as fast as I want it to be, nor is it as fast as it was using 8, but I can work with it. 

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September 27, 2013 5:02:52 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

I use window 7 too and i feel its good. Maybe your friend install too many large programs? I want update for windows 8

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September 27, 2013 9:35:08 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,

Well I tried 8 on the machine. It runs really fast on the notebook. Problem was the product key is being used on another machine so we had to put 7 back on the notebook. This time I used a barebones copy of 7, activated the copy with the COA on the notebook so it's all legit and legal, and installed drivers. Guess what? It's running quicker than it was. I'm happy so far. Wish we could have keep 8 on the machine. None of us can afford a windows 8 license at this time. 

 

Well Kona if - you had grabbed the oppertunity on release instead of kicking it with boots at the time the license would have been quite affordable 
 Damn now i feel bad - sorry Kona i appologize for my dark humor... IM sorry

Still if you are lucky you may can grab a license for thirty bucks on ebay they sell them sealed and unused ( if you want to try look for systembuilder )

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September 27, 2013 10:23:08 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Ah no worries. After all it's not my system. Thanks anyhow. 

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September 27, 2013 3:41:43 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

How long will Windows 8.1 preview be good? It works great for me in a VM.

Your friend could install and run that until they could obtain a copy of Windows 8.

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September 27, 2013 5:38:44 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

from what I remember reading the w8.1 preview expires early next year (2014), but the release is supposed to be within the next couple of months.

harpo

 

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September 27, 2013 5:43:28 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Look at the motherboard specs...........can it take a faster cpu?...........if so go on ebay and get that faster cpu.........pennies

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September 27, 2013 5:59:24 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

CPU is soldered in place. No dice.

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September 27, 2013 6:02:32 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Windows 8.1 Preview and Windows RT 8.1 Preview expires on January 15th 2014

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September 27, 2013 6:19:46 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

So that means you can't download it after that date? Or does it mean if I put it on this notebook I'm working on it will refuse to work after January?

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September 27, 2013 6:39:38 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

the second is closer,(ms OS expired previews usually NAG on an hourly basis and often demand reboots frequently), but as MS is claiming it will be released later this year this might not be such a big issue.

harpo

 

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September 27, 2013 7:15:28 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I'm just worried that if I put put it on there that it will not work past January. After all the soonest time he could upgrade to a legit version of 8 is around April, tax time. 

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September 27, 2013 8:35:35 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

So I finished downloading Windows 8.1 Preview. Anyone know if it can be used until at least April? What's the deal with all of that? 

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September 27, 2013 10:09:24 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
Or does it mean if I put it on this notebook I'm working on it will refuse to work after January?
That.

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September 27, 2013 10:42:54 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Guess I will keep Windows 7 on the machine then. No use in using a system that will not work. Guess I could talk him into using Ubuntu. You sure about that RedneckDude?

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