Will Chrome become the Ultimate Cookie?

By on September 22, 2013 9:20:24 AM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

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Sounds crazy, right? Except it isn’t.

As you might have heard, Firefox plans to block all third party cookies, which will drastically decrease the ability to track your browsing habits. That’s ok. Up until now, it’s been up to the user to do that or not. Some cookies are better/more functional than others. Those which help websites load faster are good.

When those cookies are blocked, what will happen? It won’t change where ads get displayed, but it will change which get displayed since cookies won’t be used (as much) to profile users.

That will make ad prices drop. Guess who doesn’t want that to happen (or if it does, to have a better strategy)? The largest advertising company in the world, that’s who: Google. Sooo…plan B.

Why not tie an anonymous identifier to Chrome? Then, sell the key to companies and advertisers yet still control the system, at a price. Your browser has just become your tracker. The NSA might already be doing that, and if not, will be.

Cookies shmookies. They didn’t tell you much. The browser? It will tell you everything. Google might play nicely and let you change the numbers in the identifier, or create a different ‘identity’.

Me? I’m heading to Firefox if Google does this.

I think they’re crazy…because if they do this to Chrome, what’s to say they won’t (or haven’t) do/done it to the Android OS? I think that would be close to corporate suicide.

But then, most will probably say, “meh” and buy stock.

Source:

http://www.ghacks.net/2013/09/20/google-chrome-potential-target-googles-post-cookies-plan/?_m=3n%2e0038%2e1010%2ehj0ao01hy5%2e11gd

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September 22, 2013 9:26:31 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Just when you think you got the problem licked it comes back to bite you in the tush, go figure. I still have the installer for FF v24 just in case.

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September 22, 2013 10:44:19 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I would say that Google has been tracking you anyway, if you don't wan't to be watched don't use Chrome (or other Google products).

Android is a bit different it's open source, people would know ... 

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September 22, 2013 11:11:38 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting tazgecko,
Android is a bit different it's open source, people would know ...
Except we apparently don´t, so..... who knows ?

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September 23, 2013 3:34:35 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

There is no privacy, they can link everything to your IP address.

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September 23, 2013 3:44:18 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Interesting!


If google decides to sell this theoretical browser identifier, it will still mean an increase in the cost of ads (just not for google). It seems like quite a clever way to take control of the third party cookie networks. But it would only work for people using Chrome - so it does indeed seem like a very good reason to ditch Chrome and head over to Firefox.

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September 23, 2013 5:50:46 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I have no choice but to run Chrome on one of the computers in the house. The APU just can't handle processing with any other browser. And it's dual core. Low end AMD at its best I guess. Even IE has issues.

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September 24, 2013 8:32:17 PM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

FF + Albine + Don't remember history + Startpage search engine.

Best security ever.

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Quoting kona0197,

I have no choice but to run Chrome on one of the computers in the house. The APU just can't handle processing with any other browser. And it's dual core. Low end AMD at its best I guess. Even IE has issues.

Palemoon

FF minus 90% of the useless junk code.

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September 24, 2013 9:01:25 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I have Pale Moon installed. It has the same issues. 

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September 24, 2013 9:19:37 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I'll stop surfing the web and smash my pc to little bits before I EVER use FF again. Biggest POS memory leaking crap I've ever used, regardless of version. 

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September 24, 2013 10:40:54 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I'm going to have to agree with Phoon on that one. Firefox still has a huge memory leak problem.

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September 25, 2013 12:15:48 AM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

No memory leak issues with Pale Moon in my experience (at least not yet).  On XP or Win7.

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September 25, 2013 1:30:09 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Try using Pale Moon with a 1.4 GHz CPU. You will see a difference. 

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September 25, 2013 2:12:39 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

So it jumps a couple dozen Kb a second, that's what I have 32 gigs for, so crappy programming isn't a bother.

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September 25, 2013 4:00:51 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

... heard of... google account? they could always shift everything server side.

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September 25, 2013 12:51:04 PM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Quoting kona0197,

Try using Pale Moon with a 1.4 GHz CPU. You will see a difference. 

1.6 Ghz PC at home.

One core too, and no issues.

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September 25, 2013 1:39:19 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

My only negative about Pale Moon is that one guy updates it, and it therefore lags behind Firefox.

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September 25, 2013 1:44:27 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I just did a comparison......Chrome used 46% memory and FireFox used 41%. Don't know how much of that is leakage.

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September 25, 2013 2:18:39 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I think privacy is now a thing of the past. The only venue they have left to invade is your actual thoughts.

I think about the scene in '1984' where Winston Smith stands in absolute awe when a member of the Inner Party demonstrates that he can 'turn off' the Big Brother Telescreen . He's never seen one turned off before. Later, when he is being interrogated, it appears the device that was 'turned off' may have been recording their conversation the entire time it was supposedly 'off'. Something to consider when you go to purchase your new smart TV or Google TV ... or go to 'update' their software for the first time.

I think only a select few will know any 'real' form of privacy and even that will be limited.

I think the real fear here should be how anyone who tries to obtain privacy will be viewed or typed and that 'If you have nothing to hide..' will become an accusation and affirmation of guilt before or whether any true guilt is proven/exists.

There is no way to put the lid back on this box. There will always be someone who wants to know or feels they need to or has the right to...and they will always find a way.

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September 25, 2013 3:11:25 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting PoSmedley,
'If you have nothing to hide..' will become an accusation and affirmation of guilt before or whether any true guilt is proven/exists.

In fact, the line of thinking (until an excuse was found to change it: "Security") was "innocent until proven guilty", and the Fourth Amendment actually meant something.

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September 25, 2013 3:20:21 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

The vast majority of users (not the kind posting in a thread here about hypothetical future browser tracking) long ago made the subconscious choice to trade privacy for features and convenience.  I honestly think this issue is dead.  The NSA stuff, which when it first started coming out was supposedly going to change everything related to privacy, hasn't even moved the needle.  Get off the tech sites, the internet outrage bubble and away from the few politicians who are talking to the issue and talk to the average person out in the world and they don't have any idea what PRISM is let alone what else people (government, Google, whoever) might be able to do with their phones, computers, browsers,etc.  

I've done a lot of family & friends computer and smartphone support over the years for dozens (or maybe hundreds, big family) of people and aside from the other tech-interested folks like myself not a one of them even thinks about what's on their phone or computer or what their browser might be doing.  It's a lost cause.  I can barely even get family members to pin/password protect their phones.  Usually I convince them and by the next time I work on their device they've disabled the pin/password.  

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September 25, 2013 6:17:45 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

 

 

The way I see it?  If you connect to anything.......and I do mean anything at all......you have a little less of your privacy each time.  Most of us are now so 'connected' that as Kantok stated any real semblance of privacy has long since vanished.

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