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Is WC responsible for this

By on August 23, 2013 8:25:47 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

gmc2

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I've starting getting this pop-up in the forums.

If you are responsible, please stop. The best possible experience is defined by the user, not someone else.

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August 23, 2013 8:38:00 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

http://forums.wincustomize.com/447448/page/1/#3388553

Reply #11

Maybe you should update from ie8? Or use a different browser?

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August 23, 2013 8:53:14 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting DrJBHL,

http://forums.wincustomize.com/447448/page/1/#3388553

Reply #11

Maybe you should update from ie8? Or use a different browser?

As you can see from my last post on the link you provided. I updated from ie9 to ie10 in hopes I would get rid of it and still get it. BUT, only in the WC forums. I just use Chrome now. Never ever got it on any other site.

Want to see something try this. Use chrome or I guess Firefox and it won't happen. Look at the source code all is well. Use IE go to the forum. Have that pop up, now look at the source code. You will see it in there.

Like I said above, I switched to chrome and now use to it with no pop up. Sometimes I understand it's not always to switch but sometimes you have to. Sure not worth getting pissed or upset about as this subject has been mentioned more times than just the above listed post. There was never any real reply back on this problem as what to do or the cause. The most important thing to me is making sure I wake up every morning.

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August 23, 2013 9:10:50 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting DrJBHL,
Maybe you should update from ie8? Or use a different browser?

yea, yea, standard answer but here's the thing, I use IE8 because it does not support html5 and I can disable flash. I really hate being notified that I have won some prize with the flashing red/yellow banner/fonts. I keep searching on how to disable html5 video but alas...

Does anyone know how to disable the video portion of html5???

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August 23, 2013 9:15:25 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Just tried IE10 and everything is fine for me.

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August 23, 2013 9:23:49 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting WOM,
Just tried IE10 and everything is fine for me.

in relation to the reply #3 what doees this mean???

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August 23, 2013 9:41:52 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting gmc2,


Quoting DrJBHL, reply 1Maybe you should update from ie8? Or use a different browser?

yea, yea, standard answer but here's the thing, I use IE8 because it does not support html5 and I can disable flash. I really hate being notified that I have won some prize with the flashing red/yellow banner/fonts. I keep searching on how to disable html5 video but alas...

Does anyone know how to disable the video portion of html5???

 

get Chrome.

under advanced settings, content settings set plugins to "click to play".

as extensions install AdBlock (=/= AdBlockPlus), Ghostery, Disconnect, DoNotTrackMe and Google Analytics Opt-out Add-on (by Google).

you'll be surprised how clean the Internet looks all of a sudden.


if due to recent events you longer trust US companies in terms of privacy (but then you use IE), use the Yandex browser. it's built on Chromium, so all the mentioned settings and extensions will work as well.


the only thing you gain from using IE 8 is a higher chance to get hit by malware and exploits.

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August 23, 2013 10:29:45 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting moshi,
the only thing you gain from using IE 8 is a higher chance to get hit by malware and exploits.

not true, this depends on how the browser is configured. I find IE8 very dependable using user controls. Unfortunatley, the companies are forcing us users to upgrade regardless of our preferences. I'll hold on as long as I can.

And Moshi, thanks for the other advice. Will the "click to play" switch stop all video content, including ads?

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August 23, 2013 10:55:51 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I run IE 9 and I can remember only a couple of time getting the browser out of date notice.  I don't think that I have seen it in several months.  I don't have mulitply browsers on my system so no way of testing and no I don't want to download another browser to test. 

I don't run any extra 'stuff' on my browser and the only thing that I can point to that may have corrected the problem is running a small program that I believe possibly Doc did a thread about.  Here is a link through Major Geeks for it.  http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/junkware_removal_tool.html

Now I'm not saying that this cleared things up and stopped the notice from showing, I'm not that smart, but it may have.  Give it a look, you don't have to run it if you don't want to.

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August 23, 2013 11:00:21 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting gmc2,
yea, yea, standard answer

moshi is correct.

I didn't bother telling you that as it would be "standard" as well as...correct.

The answer IS you are using an outdated version of ie which is insecure...so, the notification you're getting is a correct one.

All this back and forth for a flashing banner on some site? Add NoScript for ie8...if it's still around. That won't fix the security holes in ie8, though.

Enjoy the remote code execution. 

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August 23, 2013 11:35:26 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

No problems here.

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August 23, 2013 11:36:12 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting DrJBHL,
The answer IS you are using an outdated version of ie which is insecure

I just don't see how anyone can apply that across the board, how is it unsecure (it could be insecure with all the trashing it gets but..)

Quoting DrJBHL,
Enjoy the remote code execution.

Gosh Doc, that was the first thing that I disabled, is there something else that I'm missing.

I've been running malware and avg on a regular basis and have found NO (meaning NONE) instances of problems.

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August 23, 2013 11:36:36 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting gmc2,


Quoting moshi, reply 6the only thing you gain from using IE 8 is a higher chance to get hit by malware and exploits.

not true, this depends on how the browser is configured. I find IE8 very dependable using user controls. Unfortunatley, the companies are forcing us users to upgrade regardless of our preferences. I'll hold on as long as I can.

And Moshi, thanks for the other advice. Will the "click to play" switch stop all video content, including ads?

 

first of all if you install the AdBlock and Ghostery extensions from the Chrome Store (they are both free and you do not need an account), you will no longer see many ads at all, if any.

"click to play" means that, when a plugin is required, for an embedded Flash Youtube video for example, it will not be executed and you'll see a grey square with a plugin symbol instead. it will get executed when you click it. that has nothing to do with whether the content is an ad or not. blocking ads is the job of the extensions above. they do that. 

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August 23, 2013 11:45:19 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting DrJBHL,
All this back and forth for a flashing banner on some site? Add NoScript for ie8

actually that was with FF. I do try different browsers to see what is the current offering. With flash disabled in IE8 I get no ads or instant video.

and just to comment, I have no add-ons with ie8. ie8 meets the kiss principle in spades.

Quoting gmc2,
"click to play" means that, when a plugin is required, for an embedded Flash Youtube video for example

guess that means that it does not effect html5 video content?

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August 23, 2013 12:02:41 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

"click to play", again, is about plugins. 

if you don't want to see ads, use ad blockers. as they block these ads, it does not even matter whether those are Flash, MP4, Silverlight or Ogg. they get blocked, you will have nothing to click on for "click to play".

as i use ad blockers, i do not even have an idea how these evil, blinking HTML5 banner ads, you are talking about, look like.

for me using an outdated browser is like driving without a seat belt. most people never need one in their whole life. it still is stupid. your anti-malware tools (even if you run dozens of them) are the equivalent of the first aid box.

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August 23, 2013 12:58:01 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I get the pop up ALL THE TIME !

I hate it

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August 23, 2013 1:02:40 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting neone6,

I get the pop up ALL THE TIME !

I hate it

I would make a guess that if many more people used IE you would have many more post. From all the years on WC it's pretty clear that some but not many use IE. Like I said. I was forced to switch to another browser and decided on Chrome. It isn't really bad. I still use IE sometimes but just can't use it on the WC forums. Always a work around and for me it was Chrome.

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August 23, 2013 1:03:59 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I'm using IE8 on XP and don't get this at all. If I use Avant browser (IE based) on XP, I do. If I use IE10 on Win7, I do.  I decided to just stick with IE 9 on Win7, IE 10 is a fail that belongs on Win8, imho.

It is almost as if they are getting paid to push other browsers.

How's about WC just stop being Browser Police???  I am perfectly capable of making my own security decisions and choosing what and when to update.

If this is happening on other sites, I am not aware of it. I only get it on WC.

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August 23, 2013 1:08:21 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Wizard1956,
How's about WC just stop being Browser Police???  I am perfectly capable of making my own security decisions.

Outdated browsers cause problems with sites, which in turn costs time in support which could be going to other more important things.  

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August 23, 2013 1:13:39 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Island Dog,
Outdated browsers cause problems with sites, which in turn costs time in support which could be going to other more important things

I'm running a totally up to date IE9 and have seen this popup at other sites.

 

Haven't seen it in a while now, I have all popups blocked.

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August 23, 2013 1:14:03 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Island Dog,



Quoting Wizard1956,
reply 17
How's about WC just stop being Browser Police???  I am perfectly capable of making my own security decisions.




Outdated browsers cause problems with sites, which in turn costs time in support which could be going to other more important things.  
IE 10 isn't outdated, nor is Avant. It seems only certain browsers on certain OSes are "recognized" as being outdated. I do see your point though.

If you look at the pop up, it does list IE8+ as recommended.

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August 23, 2013 1:49:30 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

BTW, if I click on the IE download link provided in the popup, it takes me to:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/internet-explorer/download-ie offering me the IE8 browser, the same that is claimed to be outdated. This makes no sense at all.

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August 23, 2013 2:41:31 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Just mentioning, I know which browser I'm using and am aware that there are other browsers available. I don't need a nag screen to remind me. 

I have tested other browsers, I just haven't found a better one that suits my browser preferences. Until I do. or everyone decides not to support IE8, I'll stick with IE8. (remember IE7)

I mean all I'm asking for is a method to disable ALL video content during my normal browsing activities. Not just the ads but the talking heads as well. Is that so difficult?

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August 23, 2013 3:42:11 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting gmc2,
Is that so difficult?

provide a site with one of these ads or "talking heads" that

a, is not blocked by default by AdBlock and

b, can not be banished forever from the right-click-menu

but i think if you're honest you do not really want a solution.

 

 

Quoting Wizard1956,
IE 10 isn't outdated, nor is Avant.

actually Avant Browser is IE 8, as it uses the version of the Trident engine that is installed on your system. think of it as a different "skin" for Internet Explorer.

for IE 10 i suspect you somehow managed to change your user agent string.

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August 23, 2013 5:22:24 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

using chrome at the moment with "ad blocker" and "do not track me".

ads do seem disabled.

still seeing embedded video content and don't see any controls to disable these videos

appears to lack any first, third or session cookie controls. (FOUND)

basic setup lacks an on top favorite listing of links.

sets password cookies without user input, not good.

I'll play with it for a day or two. Maybe I'll take it on the chin regarding the embedded videos?

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August 23, 2013 5:30:28 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

1. http://www.antihacksecurity.com/the-news/116-noscript-for-internet-explorer-ie-8

2. http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2013/01/03/microsoft-no-security-patch-on-tuesday-for-ie6-ie7-and-ie8-vulnerability-despite-second-attack/

3. ie 6. 7, 8 are NOT supported by MS. Your system is vulnerable. What is so hard about understanding that? Don't believe me...ask yrag...or read what MS publishes.

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