No more staples and stitches. Say hello to cold plasma.

By on June 14, 2013 7:50:14 AM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

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This isn’t strictly Personal Computing, but I use Windows Live Writer, and this is the one Forum I know will cross post to my second home: WC.

IonMed’s (Israel) device is in the clinical testing stages for fast, safe and scarless surgical wound repair.

It’s small and manageable and use doesn’t require complicated training. It has four components: A helium tank, the main unit, a hand piece and a disposable tip.

It has been used on 6 volunteer subjects: women delivering by Caesarean section. This is a picture of the results 45 days post op. The dark line shows with ink where the incision was.

The technology is based on plasma, but regular plasma technology produces gasses with temperatures too high for use with living tissues.

Enter cold plasma technology. This is the future of “no more infections” e all dreamt of. Using this technology, control of bleeding, enhancement of tissue repair, disinfection and destruction of cancer cells is achieved. Harmonic Cold Plasma is doing similar work in Scottsdale, Arizona. They have demonstrated positive results on animal models and in vitro experiments with bacteria.

By the end of this year, IonMed hopes to achieve the CE mark of approval in Europe and clinical trials in the US and Europe.

This should also help the healing of diabetic and venous stasis ulcers as well as speeding the healing of infected wounds.

 

Sources:

http://israel21c.org/health/say-goodbye-to-surgical-stitches-and-staples/

http://www.ion-med.com/

http://harmoniccoldplasma.com/

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June 14, 2013 8:11:29 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Good info Doc, thanks!  

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June 14, 2013 8:30:04 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Very interesting technology.

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June 14, 2013 9:48:19 AM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

One question I have is, what happens if you are awake for it ot be applied?

Would the cold hurt?

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June 14, 2013 10:04:35 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

In the sources supplied, the temperature cited is 65°F.

Also, if at the end of a surgical procedure, it would be done while the patient was anesthetized, so not felt at all.

If done while awake, say after debridement of a wound, it would most likely be used in the setting of a local anesthetic. If neither anesthetized nor in the local anesthetic setting it might not be perceived at all (deep wound) or perceived as "cool".

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June 14, 2013 10:36:09 AM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Huh. This is truly revolutionary. You know, if it didn't have the DrJBHL Seal Of Approval, I would have called this thing out as New Age hokum from the name "harmonic cold plasma" alone!

Any idea how it works? The websites didn't go into much detail, and I'm afraid that while I'm somewhat familiar with the workings of "cold" and "cool" plasmas the biological side is beyond me.

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June 14, 2013 11:26:52 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Scoutdog,
You know, if it didn't have the DrJBHL Seal Of Approval, I would have called this thing out as New Age hokum from the name "harmonic cold plasma" alone!

http://patent.ipexl.com/US/8005548.html

http://medcitynews.com/2012/07/cold-plasma-startup-gets-1-million-for-anti-infection-wound-healing-device/

http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2013052261&recNum=81&docAn=US2012055571&queryString=(IC/a61m)%20&maxRec=34521

Hope those references help a bit?

There are also references describing lattices, etc. and the Planck model...way deep stuff, if you Google/bing/duckduckgo it.

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June 14, 2013 12:34:54 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

How much will it cost?

Will Health Care cover something like this if staples are the more cost effective option?

 

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June 14, 2013 1:23:02 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Interesting read, thank you

 

Nice to see that technology advances in such important fields, too.

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June 14, 2013 1:45:41 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Hopefully this can get to the trials soon so we can see some test results. Infections are killers, after all.

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June 14, 2013 1:59:00 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

This could be very welcome technology on the battlefield. Wars and the damage the cause aren't going to go away but returning home with less scars to remind one of them would be a great advance.

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June 14, 2013 2:42:47 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting ZombiesRus5,

How much will it cost?

Will Health Care cover something like this if staples are the more cost effective option?

 

No idea as to price, but while staples might be cheaper as a unit cost, they won't be when you consider the costs of wound infection care.

Insurance companies calculate those things when they consider coverage. Women will demand the 'scar free' edition, especially when brast or facial surgery is considered.

Quoting Wizard1956,

This could be very welcome technology on the battlefield. Wars and the damage the cause aren't going to go away but returning home with less scars to remind one of them would be a great advance.

I doubt if it would be used much in primary battlefield care, Wiz...that's more a "stop the bleeding, replace the fluids, etc." surgery ("meatball surgery" as Hawkeye et. al. termed it). It might be different if burns are involved to render harger areas sterile. That might be an application of it. The usage will evolve, though. That's for sure. It will become important in the secondary procedures later on, also. 

Good thinking. 

 

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June 14, 2013 6:04:34 PM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Quoting DrJBHL,
http://patent.ipexl.com/US/8005548.html

http://medcitynews.com/2012/07/cold-plasma-startup-gets-1-million-for-anti-infection-wound-healing-device/

http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2013052261&recNum=81&docAn=US2012055571&queryString=(IC/a61m)%20&maxRec=34521

Hope those references help a bit?

There are also references describing lattices, etc. and the Planck model...way deep stuff, if you Google/bing/duckduckgo it.
Quite a bit, actually. Seems to me like the main thing this device does is kill infectious bacteria without doing (significant) damage to the surrounding tissue, while inducing cell division through some kind of favorable ion exchange (?). Seems like such a technology (semiradiant energy that kills microbes, but not multicellular tissue) could easily be repurposed into the Magical Science Fiction "Decontamination Field". Very cool.

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June 14, 2013 6:30:44 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I am sure those few thousands people in the world who will be rich enough to afford such treatment by the time it goes out of prototype stage will really appreciate it. 

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June 14, 2013 6:52:30 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Kamamura_CZ,

I am sure those few thousands people in the world who will be rich enough to afford such treatment by the time it goes out of prototype stage will really appreciate it. 

Quoting DrJBHL,
No idea as to price, but while staples might be cheaper as a unit cost, they won't be when you consider the costs of wound infection care.

Insurance companies calculate those things when they consider coverage. Women will demand the 'scar free' edition, especially when brast or facial surgery is considered.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2810192/  <-- Just to illustrate why insurance companies would want to pay for this care. It must cost tens of billions per year, or more - a cost which could be quite easily mitigated. 

Makes very good dollars and cents to use this equipment if the trials show what I think they will.

Some others:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1396613/

This alone predicts they will pay for surgeons, etc. to use the device:

http://www.hospitalinfection.org/cost_of_infection.shtml

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