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Physics - Big Bang Bust – Bibhas De and Myron Evans

Big Bang Bust

By on May 3, 2013 7:50:30 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

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To use a quote from The Matrix, what you know you can’t explain, but you feel it. You’ve felt it the entire time, that there’s something wrong with String Theory and Big Bang Theory. You don’t know what it is, but it’s there, like a splinter in your mind.

 

I was browsing through the net when I came upon a website, http://www.bibhasde.com where the author and physicist writes about the COBE satellite scam (and the follow up WMAP and PLANCK satellite cover up). There is also a page on the Fusion Energy scam (Over 50 years of taxpayer money down the drain) and why the ITER Project (in some headlines recently) wont work.

http://www.bibhasde.com/bigbangfraudbook.html (just ignore the book part on the top and scroll down a bit for the details)

http://www.bibhasde.com/fusion.html

http://www.aias.us/documents/otherPapers/BB.pdf (page 23)

 

One senses just three physical dimensions, and with time as a fourth dimension Einstein wrote (calculated?) his Field Equations. Within String Theory with its innumerable dimensions, mathematicians posturing as physicists (“Equation Jocks”) are marching clueless through virtual (i) directions, and Big Bang Theory scam artists being feted with the Physics Nobel prize (somewhat like Obama winning the Nobel Peace prize even before his first term was completed).

 

The name “Myron Evans” was mentioned on one of the pages, and through google I reached another website http://www.aias.us where Einstein-Cartan-Evans theory and its applications are being researched. ECE Theory uses just three physical dimensions plus time to propose a Unified Field Theory.

 

Both Bibhas De and Myron Evans assert that magnetic field is a physical reality, and that the photon has a mass.

http://www.bibhasde.com/magmass.html

http://www.bibhasde.com/photon.pdf

http://www.aias.us/documents/uft/Paper155.pdf

 

Evans’ site explains the Bedini SSG circuit and the possibility of electromagnetic propulsion.

 

ps- God doesn’t play dice, and he doesn’t  *need* to start the universe with a big bang.

 

Added Edit: Another website of Bibhas De is http://dreamheron.wordpress.com

By the way, truth or falsehood does not depend on just one website proclaiming it. "Consensus of scientists" and the proclamations of UN IPCC were not enough for "Global Warming" which weaseled into "Climate Change" when confronted with the cold truth.

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May 3, 2013 8:45:57 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

mathematicians posturing as physicists (“Equation Jocks”) are marching clueless through virtual (i) directions

"Equation Jocks" are largely responsible for quantum mechanics and its subset, quantum electrodynamics...quantum electrodynamics (QED) is regarded as the most solid theory ever produced by mankind, with dozens upon dozens of very real experiments consistently confirming it...quantum mechanics as a whole has been tested countless times and always properly predicts reality...the most precise experiment ever conducted was to test quantum mechanics (had to deal with fine splitting and magnetism if I recall correctly)...

Both Bibhas De and Myron Evans assert that magnetic field is a physical reality, and that the photon has a mass.

I have no idea what you mean by "magnetic field is a physical reality"...magnetism is the relativistic effect of the electric force...this has been proven mathematically and experimentally...not that we can't refine or extend our understanding of the magnetic force, but it already is real....

As for photons having mass, what we know about light not only does not support that claim but blatantly rejects it....

String theory, M theory, the Big Bang...all those theories may be incorrect or incomplete, but when you lead off by throwing away quantum mechanics solely because "mathematicians" developed it and you end with "photons have mass", it's hard to take anything you say seriously...

In short, conspiracy theories involving fusion power and Obama have nothing to do with our knowledge of quantum mechanics, magnetism, or photons...

 

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May 3, 2013 10:38:40 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

It's on the internet, so it must be true.

P.S. If you want to debate physics, devote yourself to studying it.  And studying it doesn't amount to reading hits from google searches.

P.P.S. I'm writing this on the internet, so it's true.

 

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May 3, 2013 2:59:39 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Physicists are Mathematicians...

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May 3, 2013 6:51:57 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting psychoak,
Physicists are Mathematicians...

....with better hairstyles.

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May 3, 2013 9:40:52 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Seleuceia,


Quoting psychoak, reply 3Physicists are Mathematicians...

....with better hairstyles.

 

Hah, too true.

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May 3, 2013 10:13:58 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

ps- God doesn’t play dice, and he doesn’t *need* to start the universe with a big bang.

Yes, but Ozzy says 'God is dead'...

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May 3, 2013 11:05:40 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

And Nietzsche said 'we have killed him'

 

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May 4, 2013 6:14:05 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting cardinaldirection,

Quoting Seleuceia, reply 4

Quoting psychoak, reply 3

  Physicists are Mathematicians...

....with better hairstyles.

Hah, too true.

Agreed. Mathematicians became physicists because to be successful, its not enough to be intelligent, you must also be tall and have good hair  .

Physics is observable reality and Mathematics is one of the tools of observation and description of physical reality.

 

Quoting Seleuceia,
 

String theory, M theory, the Big Bang...  .... it's hard to take anything you say seriously...

The rejection is only of String Theory with its 26 dimensions and Big Bang Theory, not of Quantum Mechanics. ECE Theory expands on Einstein's Field Equations to include Torsion and so Quantum Theory is derived from ECE Theory along with other physical laws

http://www.aias.us/index.php?goto=showPageByTitle&pageTitle=Equations_flowcharts

 

While going through an online calculus page, there was this

http://www.understandingcalculus.com/chapters/11/11-5.php

We come across numerous articles and “news” items agreeing with string theory or big bang theory, and the intensity of information adds up incrementally to such a magnitude that any alternate theory tends to be rejected out of hand.

This technique of “intensity” of information is also used by most news outlets. The communists / socialists / democrats are always shown with good headlines / pictures and the conservatives / capitalists are always shown alongwith a negative news item (eg “crony capitalism”)

Physics is WYSIWIG – What You See is What You Get

String Theory is WYTITWIRL – What You Theorize is Totally Worthless In Real Life

 

Quoting Jafo,

Yes, but Ozzy says 'God is dead'...

Quoting Cauldyth,

And Nietzsche said 'we have killed him'

Catholic church doesn’t really need to have this Big Bang Theory (BBT) millstone hanging around its neck. BBT was proposed by a catholic priest, which may explain the current support by the church. BBT depends on the expanding universe theory and so called observation of the Cosmic Background Radiation (CMB).

The idea of god may die with one of the following:

1. Humanity conquers death

2. Humanity goes to the stars and discovers an alien species

3. Aliens visit earth.

We cant do anything about 3), We are doing something about 1), and with Myron Evans ECE theory we may be able to do something about 2)  - http://www.aias.us/documents/DeviceDev/VPwp06.pdf

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May 4, 2013 9:34:06 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Well...that proves it....for some the quote function is totally FUBAR ....

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May 4, 2013 11:39:20 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting gsitetfs,
Physics is observable reality and Mathematics is one of the tools of observation and description of physical reality.

Mathematics is all tautology, so to speak, as it is inherently true....in other words, it is true because it has to be true since that is the only way mathematics (and logic) could possibly work....

As physics becomes more and more mathematical, we more closely approach the notion that physics is all tautology...that should greatly appeal to you, since it would prove that there is only one way the universe could possibly be structured (a notion that generally appeals to deistic thinkers)...of course we aren't there yet: for example, we have yet to derive certain physical constants, they simply are observables for now....

With that in mind...

You can't criticize String Theory because it is purely mathematical, yet support Quantum Mechanics which is also purely mathematical...

Quoting gsitetfs,
Physics is WYSIWIG – What You See is What You Get String Theory is WYTITWIRL – What You Theorize is Totally Worthless In Real Life

There was a time where Quantum Mechanics fit into the "totally worthless" category...we had yet to confirm it through multiple experiments and the theory had thus far yielded no practical applications...

Today however QM has practical applications...it has allowed us to prove why atoms bond the way they do by describing how electrons fill energy levels...it has explained the double slit experiment with light and the wave-particle duality....it has given us insight into the strong force and why certain nuclei are unusually stable....it has explained why neutrinos change flavors and if neutrinos were to be shown to be capable of FTL travel, it is ready to explain that via the mass eigenstates of neutrinos...I assume you are aware of most or all of these things...

All those things are purely mathematical, yet very real and confirmed by experimentation (in the case of FTL neutrinos, could be confirmed by experimentation)...

String Theory, to my knowledge, has not yet yielded any applications, but QM didn't either right when it was developed...furthermore, a theory being purely mathematically is poor reasoning to condemn it...you would be better off questioning its testability or using the argument of economy instead of disowning it because it's all math...

As for ECE, I never seen anything supporting it beyond a "personal" webpage...

FYI, the general feeling amongst the scientific community is that gravity is not a true "force" but a result of bending/warping/distorting space-time (mass being the obvious suspect for why this distortion would occur)...therefore, it is likely that attempts to "unify" gravity with the other forces are completely futile...

 

 

 

 

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May 4, 2013 6:57:16 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Seleuceia,
Mathematics is all tautology, so to speak, as it is inherently true....in other words, it is true because it has to be true since that is the only way mathematics (and logic) could possibly work....

Mathematics is tautology only within the particular formulation of that mathematical construct.  Mathematics is a language, used for describing the physical world.  Its enormous advantage over other, natural languages, is in its precision as well as in its ability to interpolate and extrapolate.  It does not, however, inherently contain any ability to determine whether or not the world it is describing is in any way the world we live in.  Like any language, mathematics can be used to describe any number of physical realities.  Just as Tolkien can use the English language (and some languages he invented) to describe a perfectly self consistent alternative world, mathematics can describe perfectly self consistent realities which are not the one we inhabit.

It's up to empiricism to determine which of the realities is the one which we inhabit.

Quoting Seleuceia,
There was a time where Quantum Mechanics fit into the "totally worthless" category...we had yet to confirm it through multiple experiments and the theory had thus far yielded no practical applications...

Yep, string theory is very young, and hasn't been tested like other, older theories.  That will come in time, provided it can make testable predictions.  Often it's the technology and engineering that needs to catch up, to be able to test the predictions.  Only recently have we been able to test many Theory of Relatively predictions, because the technology for such precise measurements is only now available.

 

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May 5, 2013 4:18:39 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Jafo,

Well...that proves it....for some the quote function is totally FUBAR ....

Its hasnt reached FUBAR yet, its still at the SNAFU stage - Situation Normal, All ...

 

Regarding the previous quote from Ozzy, whatever information bubbles up from Oz has to be viewed through the prism of these factoids which indicate that things are somewhat topsy-turvy environmentally, biologically and legislatively

- During summer, its winter in Oz and vice versa

- The land has black swans and great big jumping mice with pockets

- Voting is compulsory ($20 fine if you cant vote)

Even the laws of physics operate confusingly - Water spirals anti-clockwise down the drain down under.

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May 5, 2013 8:27:14 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting gsitetfs,
- During summer, its winter in Oz and vice versa

- The land has black swans and great big jumping mice with pockets

- Voting is compulsory ($20 fine if you cant vote)

Even the laws of physics operate confusingly - Water spirals anti-clockwise down the drain down under.

Yes....and you don't NEED a gun to live.

Actually the laws of physics aren't any different.....we stop from falling off the planet because we are issued with magnetic boots at birth.

I thought everyone knew that....

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May 8, 2013 11:12:46 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

In Technological News - Military contractors unveiled an advanced, bilaterally-symmetric drone. “Its beautiful, sexy, and deadly to the opposition” They announced. “Conservatively, we’ve Christened it the Sarah Palin-drone”

 

And back to news in Physics -

 

Quoting Seleuceia,

 FYI, the general feeling amongst the scientific community …  …therefore , it is likely that attempts to "unify" gravity with the other forces are completely futile....

Einstein concluded that gravity is curvature of spacetime, but as per Myron Evans he neglected torsion of spacetime, which manifests as electromagnetism. Using Cartan mathematics ECE theory “unifies” gravity with electromagnetism.

Since gravity has already been explained in ECE theory, Evans says that attempts to measure “gravity waves” is futile. But you never know – even the non-existent “2.7K blackbody” was purported to be “found” by the COBE satellite (and corrobored by WMAP and supported by PLANCK satellites).

http://dreamheron.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/big-bang-relic-radiation-then-now/

 

“Higgs Boson” was “found” too, but Evans disagrees http://www.aias.us/documents/uft/a224thpaper.pdf

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May 8, 2013 11:36:50 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting gsitetfs,
In Technological News - Military contractors unveiled an advanced, bilaterally-symmetric drone. “Its beautiful, sexy, and deadly to the opposition” They announced. “Conservatively, we’ve named it the Sarah Palin-drone”

Someone hit him .....

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May 8, 2013 11:46:48 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

sorry clicked the wrong icon ... twice mea culpa

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May 8, 2013 11:47:37 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

oops my bad - Clicked the Quote button instead of the Edit button, twice

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May 9, 2013 6:49:48 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Whenever an article compares missing WMDs in Iraq to the Big Bang theory, it's hard to take it seriously...

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