So the computer finally is showing it's age

By on January 14, 2013 6:54:10 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

kona0197

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It's taken me awhile to start this thread, sorry. I know this may end up in flame wars. Again I am sorry.

So everyone knows my situation. Well those close to me on this site do. My computer is finally showing signs of how old it truly is. Keep in mind my computer has a Pentium 4 processor so I am guessing this setup to be almost ten years old. The problem, even after a few friends helped me here with a new hard drive and more memory, is the rest of the system. The processor can't keep up with the newer operating systems. I'm having a hard time just running XP. Found out the other day my DVD Burner drive is almost dead as it will read disc sometimes and other times it will not. Monitor is on it's last legs as well. Hard to read anything and the brightness is going out. It's an old CRT Dell monitor that is almost as old as the tower.

As Starkers had told you this computer is my main way to communicate with the things that are important in my life. So I was hoping someone out there had a few newer parts I could install to extend the life of the machine a bit. Nothing special. I already have DDR2 memory and a newer hard drive. Just need a few other things.

So carry on. Discuss I guess.

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January 14, 2013 7:26:14 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

 

Well.....for what it's worth.

 

A new DVD burner will likely cost more to ship than to purchase.  A new processor will likely mean new motherboard, new RAM, hell......new everything anyway. 

My opinonated opinon?   If using a computer truly is your "main way to communicate with the things that are important" I would suggest saving for a few months etc. and coming up with the few hundred bucks for a newer system.  There comes a point when every 'upgrade-path' becomes blocked.  I'd say you've been lucky to have extended yours as far as you have already.  If there is nothing really 'wrong' with the system (other than a dying DVD drive which as I've pointed out would cost more to ship to you than to purchase) and the system is just becoming 'too slow' well then it might finally be time to retire that 'oldie'. 

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January 14, 2013 8:01:47 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Saving what? I don't have any income. The better half woks but we don't have any spending money. Been out of work and looking since 2010 with no luck. Perhaps someone I have talked to could shed a better light on my situation.

It may be a few years before we can replace the whole machine.

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January 14, 2013 8:20:06 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I have a perfectly good CRT I could send you, but shipping would be outrageous.

I have several CPU's I could spare, but likely, you'd need a MOBO to match.

As the_Monk said, you really are just gonna have to retire the old nag and get something newer in order to do any better.

As for the

 

Quoting kona0197,
Been out of work and looking since 2010 with no luck.

 

I have been out of work since 2002 with no disability, etc.

 

My wife works but we have bills.

 

I am able to make a few bucks here and there working on computers (virus removal, clean up/reinstalls) and an odd job here and there in order to get PC parts, etc.

 

Everyone has their own set of circumstances, I understand. I wish you luck in finding what you want/need, sorry I can't help any further.

 

You could add all kinds of good parts to that old rig and it ain't gonna do any better.

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January 14, 2013 8:26:04 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

 "My daughter has a touchscreen on her tablet."

http://forums.wincustomize.com/439224/get;3307879

 

 "In fact my girlfriend's machine runs Windows 7."

http://forums.wincustomize.com/439050/get;3305681


so is this about the third computer in your household? 

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January 14, 2013 8:59:23 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Yeah this is about my machine. Yes my daughter has a tablet and the girlfriend has a year old notebook. Those belong to them and we do not share except in rare circumstances. So what is your point Moshi?

Forgive a fellow for asking for some help. Sorry.

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January 14, 2013 9:31:49 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
Forgive a fellow for asking for some help. Sorry.

 

Man, I feel ya, but you're not asking for help, you're asking for a whole computer. The one you have is beyond help. You have a HDD and some ram, but everything is outdated beyond updating. Even your monitor. It's as good as it's gonna get.

 

Use it to browse the net. You can play movies on the X Box 360.

 

 

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January 14, 2013 9:39:13 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Well the PSU is still good. I figure all I needed was a old mobo that will take this old DDR2 RAM and a low end CPU. Don't really care about the DVD Burner. Monitor has some life left, but not much.

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January 14, 2013 9:44:19 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

 

Further to my first reply.....

 

kona this system is your "main way to communicate with the things that are important".  So then keep using it for that then and as RND suggests watch movies etc. on your xbox.  I mean for light browsing, forum posting, email and even skype what you've already got won't be getting any worse and isn't limited by by a DVD dying.  A screen like the one you already have (CRT) should be available dirt cheap at your local tech-trash recycler (up here they might even give them away for free if I'm not mistaken).

 

At any rate, like both RND and I have now stated, you are already pretty much getting what you're going to get out of that old rig of yours.  The next step is a complete newer system.  So unless you're asking people to part out a complete newer system for you........

 

EDIT:  (saw your next post after I had posted my reply)

A slightly newer motherboard/cpu/ram combo will be more hassle than it's worth.  What I mean is.  You'll need to re-install everything after putting things back together and that for precious little gain (in fact any 'gain' you notice might not even be related to the newer hardware, and rather related to the 'fresh' install).   Just sayin....

Also.  Depending on the version of XP you purchased for your old rig, I do believe MS expects certain copies (OEM) of their OS to live/die by the system (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).  So you could find yourself 'technically' responsible for purchasing another OS.

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January 14, 2013 9:51:44 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I don't mind doing a fresh install of the OS. No worries there. Trust me if I went from this P4 to a dual core anything I would see a huge improvement. As for watching DVDs I don't use the computer for that.

 

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January 14, 2013 9:56:54 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Kona, just for shits and giggles, do some research and let us know what CPUs can be used with your MOBO. I have a few cpus in a drawer. But whether or not you can use a dual core depends on your mobo.

 

We'll need to know socket type, speeds, etc. that your mobo can handle.

 

Also, give me the same info on your current P4.

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January 14, 2013 10:06:36 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Quoting kona0197,
I don't mind doing a fresh install of the OS. No worries there. Trust me if I went from this P4 to a dual core anything I would see a huge improvement. As for watching DVDs I don't use the computer for that.

 

Well a 'dual core' (I'm assuming a Core 2 here?) CPU and a newer motherboard almost certainly require a newer PSU (since the connectors aren't even the same) and newer video card (if you're currently using onboard and the new motherboard doesn't come with onboard).  Also, while a C2D proc would on it's own be a "huge improvement" over a Pentium 4 proc some things with rgard to 'performance gain' do remain relative since if you're planning to us the old drive (I'm assuming it might still be an IDE drive?) it could limit said performance gain somewhat.

 

Not to once again mention......

Quoting the_Monk,

Also. Depending on the version of XP you purchased for your old rig, I do believe MS expects certain copies (OEM) of their OS to live/die by the system (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). So you could find yourself 'technically' responsible for purchasing another OS.

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January 14, 2013 10:38:15 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Have you even looked at any thrift stores in your area? We picked up a flat screen 17 inch ViewSonic for my Grandson for 10 dollars. They have newer computers than yours cheap and usually a savvy person can fix anything wrong with them.  I've done several for friends. I picked up a new external DVD reader/writer for 24 bucks for the Grandsons machine. There are lots of ways to go to help yourself.

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January 14, 2013 10:50:29 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Well here is the info about the CPU:

P4 CPU

Motherboard:

Mobo

Quoting the_Monk,
Also. Depending on the version of XP you purchased for your old rig, I do believe MS expects certain copies (OEM) of their OS to live/die by the system (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). So you could find yourself 'technically' responsible for purchasing another OS.

Window 8 is pretty cheap. I might get lucky and get that for a gift from someone. There is always Linux.

Quoting the_Monk,
Well a 'dual core' (I'm assuming a Core 2 here?) CPU and a newer motherboard almost certainly require a newer PSU (since the connectors aren't even the same) and newer video card (if you're currently using onboard and the new motherboard doesn't come with onboard). Also, while a C2D proc would on it's own be a "huge improvement" over a Pentium 4 proc some things with rgard to 'performance gain' do remain relative since if you're planning to us the old drive (I'm assuming it might still be an IDE drive?) it could limit said performance gain somewhat.

All of my hard drives are SATA. Only thing that is IDE on this old setup is the DVD burner. I am using onboard video. Pretty sure there is a mobo out there that can support a better CPU than the one I have yet use the RAM I have and have onboard video.

Quoting Frankief,
Have you even looked at any thrift stores in your area? We picked up a flat screen 17 inch ViewSonic for my Grandson for 10 dollars. They have newer computers than yours cheap and usually a savvy person can fix anything wrong with them. I've done several for friends. I picked up a new external DVD reader/writer for 24 bucks for the Grandsons machine. There are lots of ways to go to help yourself.

Still requires money that I don't have. Sorry.

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January 14, 2013 11:04:23 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Quoting kona0197,


Window 8 is pretty cheap. I might get lucky and get that for a gift from someone. There is always Linux.
 

 

?!?  Windows 8?  You?!?  

Ok.....well I'd better bow out of this thread now before I say/type something I'll only regret later.

 

Best of luck......

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January 14, 2013 11:33:11 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Kona, go to the site of the maker of your MOBO, and bring up specs. It will list the CPUs compatible with your MOBO.

 

I said do research, not run a program.

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January 14, 2013 11:36:51 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
Window 8 is pretty cheap. I might get lucky and get that for a gift from someone

 

Kona, you'd still lack the PC to run it.

 

Why don't you just change the title of this thread to:

 

Does Anyone Have A Good, Fairly New PC To Give Away With Windows 7 or 8 On It?

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January 14, 2013 11:44:15 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
There is always Linux.

What you have now will run that, or so you said. If Windows is too much for the old thing.........

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January 15, 2013 12:07:40 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting RedneckDude,
Kona, you'd still lack the PC to run it.

I bet this machine could run 8. That would be sight to see. Might be slow but I bet it would run it. 

Quoting RedneckDude,
Kona, go to the site of the maker of your MOBO, and bring up specs. It will list the CPUs compatible with your MOBO.

CPU/Processor
  • Socket: LGA775
  • Supports processor up to 3.4 GHz
  • Supports Intel Pentium 4 HT processors
Front-side bus (FSB)
  • 800 MHz
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January 15, 2013 12:21:44 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

God helps those who help themselves! Things are tough all over, be happy you even have a computer. You cannot expect something for nothing.

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January 15, 2013 12:50:53 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

 

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January 15, 2013 12:52:40 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
I bet this machine could run 8. That would be sight to see. Might be slow but I bet it would run it.

 

even after a few friends helped me here with a new hard drive and more memory, is the rest of the system. The processor can't keep up with the newer operating systems.

 

If you have a PC that'll run the latest OS, your ok.

Then why are you asking for help?  You're contradicting yourself again. 

I'm done here. Good luck, Kona.

 

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January 15, 2013 12:57:48 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I didn't contradict myself. I said it would probably run Windows 8 but it would be slow. That means the CPU can't keep up with the newer operating systems.

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January 15, 2013 1:55:40 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Gosh. Wish I could help. I'm blessed in that I make my living on the PC, albeit in a 3d world (Second Life). I definitely know the old PC feeling, though the one I use now is, admittedly, a bit of a gaming monster, but it took some wrestling to get it. Sucks that systems are designed thus: So when one gets outdated, you can't just replace, that, oh no. Got to replace this, then that, to support the new item. But wait! That's an old motherboard; won't handle it, best get a new one, but then the Power Supply is outdated, so change that, and then this and then that and then.. Whole new PC. >.<

 

I hear ya. ♥

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January 15, 2013 3:43:25 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I have an old copy of windows 98, could mail it cheap. That is your only hope from me unless you live down the road. Shipping and handling would kill anyone, extra parts or not. Have any ties to your local church or something? Maybe a local business with stuff to spare from upgrading? I wish you were down the road, I would drop off a box of stuff.

 

Good Luck, and I was serious about the church. You may not even need to attend,just explain your situation, if worthy, they will help.

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January 15, 2013 4:33:04 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Okay people, let's change the tone of this thread to something that's friendlier and with a bit of understanding.  We have a member with a number of issues calling out for help here, so how about we see what we can do rather than pick fault/condemn, orright?

First off, it is not just the CPU that's the bottleneck.  The mobo is also old and would not be ideal to run a more powerful processor.

So, I have an AMD Athlon x2 5600 2.9ghz that I can send from Australia without too much expense.  All that kona would need to get him out of immediate trouble then is an AM2 socket Mobo and a stock CPU cooler. Now if somebody in the US has these items laying around with no particular use in mind, they would be of great help to kona to get his machine running somewhat better than it currently does. He already has the compatible RAM, and it's just those 2 items he needs to run his machine at a reasonable speed, so how about it people, can anyone help out a fellow member who's doing it tough... in more ways than one? 

Yeah, apart from PC issues and a lack of cash, kona has a number of health issues impacting on his life, and these present him with difficulties in areas of his life that most of us take for granted, so before anyone decides to heap anymore ridicule and pain upon him, try walking a mile or two in his shoes to see how it feels.  Now I'm not at liberty to discuss these health issues in any detail because they were related to me in confidence, but believe me when I say that kona isn't at all well, and a little bit of help would go a long way to lifting his spirits.

Now if I had both parts and could afford to post them I would, but I haven't and can't, so please, let's pull together as a community and make this happen.  I have the CPU, it needs a matching mobo and cooler to complete the deal.  And if somebody has an old DVD ROM laying around, that wouldn't go astray, either.

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