Win 7 and Ram

A paltry 16 GB of ram

By on January 8, 2013 7:21:24 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

Anthony R

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I just got another 16gb of ram to make it a full 32 and my rig knew it was there but couldn't use it and I found out why. Win 7 Premium can only use a paltry 16 gb. If I want to use the full 32 I'll have to upgrade to pro, which I will likely do very soon.

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January 8, 2013 7:59:30 PM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Oh yeah.  The horror.  Here I am, already got Win7 Pro, but only 4GB of RAM.  Don't I feel stupid.

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January 8, 2013 9:42:05 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

And here I am with both Home Premium, installed, and Pro on a disk. Too bad my laptop only holds 8 gigs.

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January 8, 2013 9:54:49 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

7 Ultimate...and using 12.  MoBo can handle 24, I think.

Might be worth checking/searching whether there's a work-around re the Premium/Pro limits, etc...

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January 8, 2013 10:23:21 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

Quoting Jafo,
a work-around re the Premium/Pro limits, etc

There might be... I'll look to see what I can dig up. If not I guess I'll get the Pro version.

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January 8, 2013 10:34:20 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I have Windows 7 Ultimate and a "paltry" 16 GB DDR3 Ram.

 

 

I could do 32, I think, but 16 is plenty.

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January 8, 2013 11:48:43 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

Quoting RedneckDude,
7 Ultimate and a "paltry" 16 GB DDR3 Ram

I know, I was just trying to be funny. 16 seemed great, but I figured with the low cost of Ram these days why not drop in another 16. I also wanted to have the full set in all 4 dimms for cosmetic purposes.

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January 8, 2013 11:58:23 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

What do you consider to be "low cost"?

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January 9, 2013 12:41:14 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
What do you consider to be "low cost"?

I remember buying 256 meg of ram once...and paying $250 for it....only to be offered back 400 by the shop who wanted it for another customer....would have done it too...but then I would have been without it myself.

These days you'd get 256meg free in a Weeties packet ...by comparison.

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January 9, 2013 4:29:58 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

and you think you had expensive ram, Ihad purchased 16kbit of ram for $80 (this was for an 8 bit computer), so the full 16kbyte cost 8 x$80 or $640 back in 1980

harpo

 

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January 9, 2013 4:32:19 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I've seen sales for a 2gig DDR3 stick @ less than 70 US at Radio Shack and they're expensive!

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January 9, 2013 4:43:17 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Let me know when prices of RAM get down to a dollar.

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January 9, 2013 5:06:23 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

kona0197, depends upon where you shop. I have seen recently 4gb ddr3 sticks for au$35 in some local shops, and have bought 5 8gb usb sticks for $33 ( or a total of 40gb for $33)

harpo

 

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January 9, 2013 6:37:16 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

For what would you need 32gigs of DDR3ram for ?
Btw what CPU cooler did you finally install?

 

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January 9, 2013 7:15:23 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Roloccolor,
For what would you need 32gigs of DDR3ram for ?

One task I can think of....virtual machines...

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January 9, 2013 7:35:23 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

For the record, my last RAM purchase. I think I paid 38.00 US.

 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231519

 

 

I hope this isn't considered spam. 

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January 9, 2013 7:38:57 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

 

 

For emphasis...it ain't that expensive.

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January 9, 2013 7:53:25 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

^^^^^RAM spam^^^^^^

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January 9, 2013 7:56:57 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

RND...I could max out my MoBo with that for under 120 ...... [mine's 6 banks of max 4]...

...but then I'd have 12 that I couldn't use - no other machine it'd suit...

 

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January 9, 2013 8:02:24 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Just checked...6x4 sticks of DDR3 would be $150 ....where I get my stuff....

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January 9, 2013 8:06:58 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Since we're kind of rambling...

Any of you guys that are RAM-flush ever set up a RAM drive with it?  I've always wondered if it was really worth the effort.

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January 9, 2013 8:07:23 AM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Well good for you, over here I'm looking at prices of almost 40 GBP for in an inferior model. or more like 80 GBP for the same thing.

Of course I suppose I could find a supplier that ships internationally and has a competitive price, but I think it would be a waste of money.

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January 9, 2013 10:22:41 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Ram drives are nice but situational.

Setting one up requires specific software for the task, and increases boot times.

 

If you play a particular, load intensive game, on a regular basis, it makes perfect sense.  It also makes more sense if your computer is always on.  I don't and I shut it down at night, so I've never gotten around to it despite having 32GB to play with.

 

If you're bottle necked by the drive and regularly use a particular program with heavy loading times, go for it.  The software is cheap, the gains are utterly massive over a disk drive.  Still massive over a fast SSD, but more like 10x than 50x.

 

There's also one area where the proper software would be... fantastic.

 

If you're one of those stupid schmucks that bought a 32-bit operating system because your brain didn't finish developing, you can use it to create a page file disk using extra ram your gimped piece of shit operating system can't access...  Once you've got your just as fast as regular memory page file, 32-bit piece of shit operating system isn't so shit anymore.  You have to be particular in software selection, RamDisk Plus is the only one I'm sure works this way.

 

I've got a few games I really like that get their panties in a twist over not having a page file, and paging a drive is a terrible thing to do to yourself, and the drive.  I might actually do it one of these days just to end that crap.

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January 9, 2013 10:43:46 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Thanks psychoak, that's a nice summary.  Anytime I've googled it I've been left wondering.  The only other thing I've seen that it might be helpful with is pointing temp files over to it, but those are often so small anyway other than s/w installs.  It did make sense to me that people would use them for temps on SSD's to cut down the usage.

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January 9, 2013 10:52:09 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Jafo,
RND...I could max out my MoBo with that for under 120 ...... [mine's 6 banks of max 4]...

...but then I'd have 12 that I couldn't use - no other machine it'd suit...

 

I was just saying that DDR3 ram ain't that high. It's the older stuff that gets expensive.

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