Anyone Running The New UEFI Bios?

I like it!

By on December 6, 2012 9:46:01 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

RedneckDude

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I have an MSI MOBO which sports the new UEFI BIOS. I wondered how many others have it now?

 

I never see anyone talking about it.

 

You can access the BIOS from within Windows. Even from a smart phone.

 

You can surf the net from within the BIOS even!

 

Any experience with UEFI BIOS, let's hear it.

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December 6, 2012 9:52:35 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Does it have the error code....

"Keyboard not found.  Press F1 to continue."?

If not....I don't want it......I prefer a BIOS with a sense of humour....

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December 6, 2012 9:57:45 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

It is nice. Haven't done much with it but it is very ... different and friendly at the same time. It's not as simple as the old style BIOS as Jafo pointed out but for me it's been easy to navigate and fairly intuitive.

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December 6, 2012 11:12:56 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I like being able to use the mouse. And access from Windows is cool. I have no need to access my BIOS from a smartphone. 

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December 7, 2012 12:43:41 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting RedneckDude,
I like being able to use the mouse

At long last..... progress!!

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December 7, 2012 12:51:06 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

LOL....I love you too, dipshit. 

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December 7, 2012 1:00:40 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

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December 7, 2012 4:53:53 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

There is a vicious bug in Windows 7 I have discovered the hard way.

If you have a disk in the old MBR format (UEFI prefers GPT) containing an extended partition with logical partitions, Windows 7 will crash on boot while booting in the UEFI mode. It does not matter that the disk may not be even accessed, just being connected will cause the crash.

I had to move all my data to a backup disk, change the empty disks to GPT, and move the data back to make it work. Microsoft offers a solution, but it comes as a patch to the installation CD - basically, you have to make and burn your own patched ISO.

 

In general, UEFI is not a good technology. The main drive behind it is the attempt to lock your computer, because uefi supports booting to so called "trusted" platforms only - basically, it containts a set of public keys (provided by the manufacturer), and will boot only to an OS that was signed by one of those keys when "Secure Boot" is enabled. The original specification stated that there must be an off switch for Secure Boot on desktops, but that it must ALWAYS be ON on mobile platforms, so that the manufacturers could dictate what OS is eligible and what is not. 

It's basically another creepy-crawly move to snatch away another of your remaining rights - the right to boot whatever you want on a hardware device you have purchased.

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/australia/untested-buggy-uefi-headed-for-prime-time/592

 

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December 7, 2012 11:13:05 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

My SSD is configured in MBR format and I have 2 1TB platters.  No problems with UEFI and MBR.  Windows7 Ultimate 64 bit.

 

 

 

 

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December 7, 2012 11:57:45 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting yrag,

Quoting RedneckDude, reply 3I like being able to use the mouse

At long last..... progress!!

Quoting RedneckDude,
My SSD is configured in MBR format and I have 2 1TB platters.  No problems with UEFI and MBR.  Windows7 Ultimate 64 bit.

 

 

Reduced 73%Original 614 x 601

 

 

 

OK... you've got the mouse... now try this tool (instead of the brush)   :

 

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December 8, 2012 11:50:37 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Well, as long as you can disable it on your mobo it can do no harm. But if you want to for example double boot linux and windows you are in trouble. Best stay away from it, it gives MS way too much control over YOUR computer.

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January 3, 2013 9:24:47 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Quoting ,

I have an MSI MOBO which sports the new UEFI BIOS. I wondered how many others have it now?

UEFI is not BIOS.  It's a replacement for BIOS.

I will not buy another BIOS machine in my life.  I had UEFI on my DX58SO but I had to replace that horribly designed pile of...motherboard.

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January 3, 2013 9:28:40 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Quoting petrossa,
Well, as long as you can disable it on your mobo it can do no harm. But if you want to for example double boot linux and windows you are in trouble. Best stay away from it, it gives MS way too much control over YOUR computer.

Yes, lets not secure our computers at all because someone might be inconvenienced.

Stay away from it if you're a Linux type?  Sure, if you can't use the already working methods.  Anyone else?  Use it immediately.

 

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January 3, 2013 9:44:05 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

A NEW laptop with pre-installed windows 8 got the disc formatted GPT from scratch.

-Put a win 7 boot cd in it and it won´t even read it.

If you would want Windows 7 on that computer you would have to format the whole disc to MBR, taking away Win 8 and Everything else that came with it.

Read it & weep

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January 3, 2013 10:29:55 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting neone6,
If you would want Windows 7 on that computer you would have to format the whole disc to MBR, taking away Win 8 and Everything else that came with it.

Or just buy another Harddrive (SSD?) and keep the original with all it's content intact. This may void the warranty however.

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January 3, 2013 12:47:23 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Savyg,

Quoting petrossa, reply 12Well, as long as you can disable it on your mobo it can do no harm. But if you want to for example double boot linux and windows you are in trouble. Best stay away from it, it gives MS way too much control over YOUR computer.

Yes, lets not secure our computers at all because someone might be inconvenienced.

Stay away from it if you're a Linux type?  Sure, if you can't use the already working methods.  Anyone else?  Use it immediately.

 

I am not running a bank, i am running a personal computer with some music and stuff. If i want to secure my computer i prefer to do so in a way that is convenient to me, not to OS vendors to lock me out.

Anyhow, why should i have to 99$ to unlock my own computer? Whose idiotic idea is that. Let me guess, not the public.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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January 3, 2013 2:51:48 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

There was a UEFI Bios on the AsRock mobo rig I built for my sister. It was intuitive and seemed like a good thing, but I was peeved because it was misrepresenting the CPU temperatures (thought it was running at 60c idle when in reality it was running at 28c idle... had a small heart attack for a while there). Other than that it's been a great experience. I still prefer an old-school BIOS though, but that's probably because I'm more comfortable and familiar with it. 

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January 3, 2013 4:48:29 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Quoting petrossa,
I am not running a bank, i am running a personal computer with some music and stuff. If i want to secure my computer i prefer to do so in a way that is convenient to me, not to OS vendors to lock me out.

Anyhow, why should i have to 99$ to unlock my own computer? Whose idiotic idea is that. Let me guess, not the public.

You mean the free options like disabling Secure Boot aren't good enough for you?  Fantastic, I'll write that down next time I'm in the mood to do something stupid.

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January 3, 2013 9:43:41 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Kamamura_CZ,
In general, UEFI is not a good technology. The main drive behind it is the attempt to lock your computer, because uefi supports booting to so called "trusted" platforms only - basically, it containts a set of public keys (provided by the manufacturer), and will boot only to an OS that was signed by one of those keys when "Secure Boot" is enabled. The original specification stated that there must be an off switch for Secure Boot on desktops, but that it must ALWAYS be ON on mobile platforms, so that the manufacturers could dictate what OS is eligible and what is not.

So in other words you can't use Linux on those machines. Windows or nothing right?

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January 3, 2013 11:20:01 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting jackswift85,
but I was peeved because it was misrepresenting the CPU temperatures (thought it was running at 60c idle when in reality it was running at 28c idle...

Cores here all show 60c ....quasi-idle.....doing 'stuff' ....but it's Melbourne in summer...so outside it's 39c and counting...

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January 3, 2013 11:55:18 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

You can keep Summer down there year round. I don't want it back up here.

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January 4, 2013 7:41:14 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,

Quoting Kamamura_CZ, reply 8In general, UEFI is not a good technology. The main drive behind it is the attempt to lock your computer, because uefi supports booting to so called "trusted" platforms only - basically, it containts a set of public keys (provided by the manufacturer), and will boot only to an OS that was signed by one of those keys when "Secure Boot" is enabled. The original specification stated that there must be an off switch for Secure Boot on desktops, but that it must ALWAYS be ON on mobile platforms, so that the manufacturers could dictate what OS is eligible and what is not.

So in other words you can't use Linux on those machines. Windows or nothing right?

 

a simple Google search would have revealed that you can use Linux on these machines.

 

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January 4, 2013 11:08:48 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Savyg,

You mean the free options like disabling Secure Boot aren't good enough for you?  Fantastic, I'll write that down next time I'm in the mood to do something stupid.

Buy a dell laptop and say that again.

 

 

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January 4, 2013 11:29:44 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Quoting petrossa,
Buy a dell laptop

That is extremely unlikely.

The other free option would be installing Linux versions that already work with it, or ones that will soon enough.

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January 4, 2013 12:02:14 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

You can still get Win7 on rigs from Dell.  FWIW.

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