Music playback issue

By on October 10, 2012 3:38:54 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

kona0197

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So I use iTunes when I am using Windows. Right now I'm on a clean install of XP SP3 along with the latest version of iTunes. Every time I have music playing in the background the music will skip. This happens when I start up Firefox on reload a page on run any other program. I have 4 GB of DDR2 on the machine along with a newer 500 GB hard drive. At first I thought the drive wasn't keeping up with my usage. Maybe it's my CPU because it's a 2.9 GHz single core CPU. I have no idea what's going on. Any suggestions on a fix? Just want to be able to cruise the internet with my music on without the music skipping.

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October 10, 2012 3:54:03 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

iTunes is a hog.  Sounds like your system is lagging the music.

 

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October 10, 2012 4:15:07 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I know iTunes is a hog. With 4 GB of RAM I would think that would be a moot point. I rather dislike WMP or any other music player. Is there a fix? I've used iTunes on other systems with less RAM with no issues. Maybe RAM is the issue? XP doesn't see all 4 GB because it's not a 64 bit system.

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October 10, 2012 4:48:24 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I doubt that RAM is a problem, more likely either a busy CPU or perhaps a busy hard drive.  I don't know if iTunes has a buffer setting in it, you might try checking any options/preferences for a buffer setting that you can increase.  If you have a second hard drive (even an external or a thumb drive), you might try moving a couple of songs over to the second hard drive and playing them while surfing to see if that fixes it.  Also, if you're running the iTunes with any sort of equalizer or sound enhancer, you might try turning that off (which will reduce cpu usage).

You can try running task manager or another cpu monitor while you're running iTunes and surfing to watch the cpu usage.  If it's sometimes pegging towards 80-100%, there's your problem.  You'd need to figure out a way to cut down iTunes usage, or switch to another player.

Oh ya, if you're using any visualization-type things, try running with those turned off.

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October 10, 2012 5:26:10 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
I rather dislike WMP or any other music player.

Wouldn't hurt to try another player, just to verify that iTunes is the culprit. (read: POS)
WinAmp classic is always a brilliant choice.

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October 10, 2012 6:15:21 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I don't have any other players installed. Did that on purpose actually.

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October 10, 2012 6:48:23 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Well, install one.

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October 10, 2012 7:17:57 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I installed a different player with the same results. Songs just skip. Seems the hard drive can't keep up. Is there a way to increase the buffer size? Please note this only happens while using Windows. While using Linux the music plays just fine.

I also uninstalled AVG. I thought the constant scanning might be stressing the hard drive. It didn't help.

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October 11, 2012 12:14:55 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I'd still look at Task Manager to see what's going on with cpu usage, if nothing else just to rule it out.  Might be something else sucking up the processor too, maybe even some Fireflox plugin.

 

Here are a couple of pages from the iTunes support that might be helpful in troubleshooting:

 

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1362

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1421

 

 

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October 11, 2012 2:39:23 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Yeah, I tend to think it's more likely a CPU issue rather than the HDD, which runs at 7200rpm and should be capable of keeping up just playing music and checking out the net, etc.  I'd check in Task Manager to see what is hogging your CPU if I were you, and see if you can reduce the CPU load by eliminating any unnecessary processes.  As I understand it, iTunes has a fairly heavy footprint, so you may need to use a player that's not so resource intensive if cutting back background processes doesn't resolve the issue

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October 11, 2012 7:26:36 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Kona...

I've used Winamp 2x since it was 'new'....and deliberately avoided 3 which was a flop...and subsequent vers that introduced bloat.

It still plays 24/7 ....even while playing THE MOST TAXING game known to man.....aka FSX.  Ram can be at 95% [12 gig]  8 'cores' all over 50C ....all going 19 to the dozen.....and the music never skips.

Not once.

Throw that iTunes shit out.

Anything that thinks it needs an 'i' prefix to be acceptable belongs to a whole world of FAIL.

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October 11, 2012 9:28:18 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I can't do Winamp Jafo. Interface is too confusing and dark. I've been using iTunes for years with no issues.

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October 11, 2012 9:30:25 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
Interface is too confusing and dark.

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October 11, 2012 9:37:50 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Yeah I like programs that aren't that dark. And I don't care to mess with skins.

Besides I would have to edit all of of my 4K of MP3 files so that they would show up correctly in Winamp. Not something I want to spend my time doing.

So I moved the music to a spare 40 GB hard drive. I then installed an older iTunes version. I even took out a stick of RAM dropping the total down to 3 GB.

With music playing, Firefox open with 5 tabs, CPU is holding steady around 10 percent usage.

And the music still skips. 

I have noticed that refreshing a page in Firefox makes the CPU go to 100 percent.

Starting to think this is a Windows XP issue, yet I have downloaded ALL available updates. I really miss Windows 7.

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October 11, 2012 9:43:15 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

In all honesty, your PC is just slow.  XP is legacy and I don't think the new iTunes coming next month will even support it, among many other applications.  It's not reading all your RAM so it's limited your system.

 

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October 11, 2012 9:48:04 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Yes I know Island Dog. I have no choice but to use this system. I was looking for the answer, not a post stating the obvious. Never had any issues on this very same machine a year ago.

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October 11, 2012 9:51:49 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
Never had any issues on this very same machine a year ago.

Then something added...or updated within the past year is the cause.

And guess who is the best-placed to determine what was added and/or updated?

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October 11, 2012 10:14:37 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Nothing was added. In fact things were taken away. This is a fresh install of XP, XP updates, Firefox 16, and iTunes 10.5. Should be working fine.

Maybe something went wrong with the fresh install. After all the install was done from the hidden partition, a factory image install.

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October 11, 2012 10:19:30 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
In fact things were taken away

OK, so one of those shouldn't have been.

This isn't rocket science.  It's cause and effect.

When things work OK....that's NOT the time to trash everything and start again.  When it's not broke it's actually not broke.

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October 11, 2012 10:25:24 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
Nothing was added. In fact things were taken away. This is a fresh install of XP, XP updates, Firefox 16, and iTunes 10.5. Should be working fine.

Maybe something went wrong with the fresh install. After all the install was done from the hidden partition, a factory image install.

 

lol. did those applications even exist then? iTunes 10.5 was released last year, but Firefox 16? 

 

just use Linux if that works ok and you just want to listen to music and surf the web. but i have that strange feeling that that doesn't work either as you probably got the latest Ubuntu installed and are wondering why it is so slow.

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October 11, 2012 10:34:46 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

No I don't have any version of Linux installed. Decided to go back to Windows XP as my wireless printer does not work with any flavor of Linux.

I think Island Dog is right. I am trying Winamp right now although I don't know how to use it properly and nothing is skipping.Thanks Jafo.

So my question now is this: What is the best iTunes clone that is light on resources?

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October 11, 2012 10:40:58 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
Please note this only happens while using Windows. While using Linux the music plays just fine.

 

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October 11, 2012 10:53:02 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

i had a problem similar to yours and it turned out to be a codec problem of all things.  You could try installing a small, generic, codec package.

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October 11, 2012 11:02:56 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

@Moshi: I had Fedora Linux and Windows XP installed last month. While using Linux and any player included with Linux there was no skipping.

@Werewolf: What codec would you suggest?

I'm testing out Foobar2K right now, so far no skips. Wonder when Itunes got so bloated.

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October 11, 2012 11:22:27 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
Wonder when Itunes got so bloated.

As soon as they added the "i"

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October 11, 2012 11:44:25 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Wizard1956,

Quoting kona0197, reply 23Wonder when Itunes got so bloated.

As soon as they added the "i"

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