It's only days away..so Giants or Patriots??

Superbowl XLVI

By on February 2, 2012 7:44:49 AM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Neilo

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Neither looked great in the conference finals, both doing just enough to get the W, so how will each team fair, and who will win the battle at QB?
The stats suggest a win by New England, and i tend to agree. Brady has played better than Manning all season and the Pats as a whole have looked more impressive over the regular season than the Giants did.

So, what say you???

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February 3, 2012 6:13:58 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

But ... but ... if your Aunt is your Uncle how's your Uncle gonna do his thing. Weird. 

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February 3, 2012 7:09:46 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Neilo,
They couldn't even come close in the Twenty20 the other night, tonights game will be more of the same, more Hogg doing his old man shuffle!!

Nope...India finally won something.

They may yet all get castrated but they won....something....

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February 3, 2012 7:26:15 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Jafo,
Nope...India finally won something.

Meh! Twenty20 is not a real game, it's like going to Maccas and saying that you have been to a restaurant. Cricket junk food.

Go Patriots ...

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February 4, 2012 10:01:07 AM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Quoting Uvah,
I remember the last time I saw these two teams clash. I had picked New England and as luck would have it the Giants steamrolled 'em. It was as if the Giants loosed the 'Giants', bringing out the heavies and trouncing the Pats big time. This time around I'm going with the giants because I think they'll try the same thing again.
What planet do you live on? 17-14 is hardly a "trouncing" or being "steamrolled". The Giants won that game on pure luck, Tyree's helmet catch was only one of four lucky occurrences in the Giants last drive alone, any one of which would have changed the result of the game if it had gone the other way. If they replayed that game 10 times the Patriots win 9 of them.

As far as this game it's a bit of a different story. Eli is definitely a better quarterback now than he was then but people seem to have selective memories when it comes to comparing the two teams. Sure the Patriots defense sucked for most of the year which everyone and their brother is sure to point out but then the Giants lost 7 games in the regular season and lost twice to the pitiful Redskins. If you're going to give the Giants a pass for a mediocre at best regular season then you have to give the Patriots defense a pass for their regular season performance.

Plus the Giants vaunted defense is not nearly as good as the Ravens. All the Giants have are a superior front four, block them and their defense suddenly becomes extremely mediocre.

As a staunch Patriots fan I'm certainly routing for the Patriots and believe that they do have the edge but that it's a small edge and the Giants, with their regular season mediocrity notwithstanding, are a worthy adversary. The team that wins will be the team that plays better on Sunday, but if I were a Giants fan I'd have to be a bit concerned about their cavalier attitude and their expectations of victory as if all they need to do is show up. A Belichick coached team may lose but it will not lose because of inattention to detail. Making sure the heat was turned up during practice and interrupting practice for 45 minutes to simulate the actual conditions in a Super Bowl is something done by someone that has gone to 5 Super Bowls in the last decade winning 3 of them, so far. If that's not a dynasty then I don't know what is. But then success breeds contempt which is why the rest of the country hates the Patriots and wishes them to lose.

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February 4, 2012 10:38:30 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Mumblefratz,

Quoting Uvah, reply 1I remember the last time I saw these two teams clash. I had picked New England and as luck would have it the Giants steamrolled 'em. It was as if the Giants loosed the 'Giants', bringing out the heavies and trouncing the Pats big time. This time around I'm going with the giants because I think they'll try the same thing again.What planet do you live on? 17-14 is hardly a "trouncing" or being "steamrolled". The Giants won that game on pure luck, Tyree's helmet catch was only one of four lucky occurrences in the Giants last drive alone, any one of which would have changed the result of the game if it had gone the other way. If they replayed that game 10 times the Patriots win 9 of them.

If a meteor had crashed into Phoenix, it may not have mattered.  If a dragon had eaten both teams, it wouldn't have mattered either. If and maybe are irrelevant.  What happened happened.  

So the Patriots awful, statistically worst in the NFL, defense is suddenly not mediocre?  They put the breaks on... the Broncos and the Ravens.  Two vaunted offenses that have stricken the hearts of opposing defenses all year....  

As opposed to the Giants, who trounced two of the best offenses in the NFL, and then won a defensive struggle with the best overall defense in the NFL.  

If I were a Patriots fan I'd be a bit concerned about Brady's mediocre playoff performances since Spygate.  He has been an undeniably different big game quarterback since then.  It may be coincidence, but it may not.  I'd also be concerned about playing a team we'd already lost to once this year that is significantly healthier and playing better than they were the last time they beat us.  

Speaking of Spygate, it's not just success that breeds contempt.  So does cheating, whether Patriots fans like to admit it or not.  

Also, the 45 minute practice break is a gimmick.  

I'm a Giants fan, so I'm biased too.  I don't have a pick and am very concerned that the Giants will under perform and make themselves look foolish.  But let's not glaze over all the details.  

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February 4, 2012 11:52:52 AM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Quoting Kantok,
So the Patriots awful, statistically worst in the NFL, defense is suddenly not mediocre?
Uh. Statistically the Patriots defense was 31st, not 32nd. By the same statistics the Giants were 27th in the league, hardly that much of a difference from 31st and if you go by points allowed the Giants are 25th compared to the Patriots 15th, and now suddenly the Giants are the reincarnation of the steel curtain? Hardly.

Quoting Kantok,
As opposed to the Giants, who trounced two of the best offenses in the NFL
Uh ... Green Bay was the 3rd ranked offense and Atlanta was the 10th. While Green Bay was decent, Atlanta hardly counts as one "of the best offenses in the NFL".

Quoting Kantok,
and then won a defensive struggle with the best overall defense in the NFL.
Again they got lucky with two muffed punts or they wouldn't even be there. Also San Francisco was the 4th ranked defense not the 1st. And while the Ravens offense did not set the league on fire they did have the 15th best offense compared to San Francisco's 26th ranked offense while the Ravens had the 3rd ranked defense versus San Francisco's 4th ranked defense. If you insist on going by rankings then the Ravens are clearly a better team than San Francisco.

You need to get your facts straight. Go to http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/position/defense/seasontype/2 to see 2011 total defense rankings. Click on PTS to see the rankings based on points allowed and then click on Offense to see the 2011 total offense rankings. Then note how every single ranking you mentioned was incorrect.

And speaking of arrogance how them Jets doing? I love how Rex Ryan "guaranteed" a Super bowl win. Instead he's home sucking on his wife's toes.

 

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February 4, 2012 12:05:36 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Well the Seahawks sucked this year so as long as the commercials are good.  

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February 4, 2012 12:30:04 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Mumblefratz,

And speaking of arrogance how them Jets doing? I love how Rex Ryan "guaranteed" a Super bowl win. Instead he's home sucking on his wife's toes.

 

Who gives a damn about the Jets?  How does mentioning them add to the discussion in the slightest?  

 

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February 4, 2012 12:33:22 PM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Quoting Kantok,

Quoting Mumblefratz, reply 31
And speaking of arrogance how them Jets doing? I love how Rex Ryan "guaranteed" a Super bowl win. Instead he's home sucking on his wife's toes.

Who gives a damn about the Jets?  How does mentioning them add to the discussion in the slightest?  

Because as a Giants fan you simply jump on the bandwagon of whichever NY team is doing better. If the Jets were in the Giants position you'd be saying the same thing about the Jets.

And because the Jets are just as relevant to this discussion as Spygate is. Talk about sour grapes.

What? No comment about your statistical ineptitude?

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February 4, 2012 12:38:57 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Mumblefratz,

Quoting Kantok, reply 33
Quoting Mumblefratz, reply 31
And speaking of arrogance how them Jets doing? I love how Rex Ryan "guaranteed" a Super bowl win. Instead he's home sucking on his wife's toes.

 
Who gives a damn about the Jets?  How does mentioning them add to the discussion in the slightest?  

 Because as a Giants fan you simply jump on the bandwagon of whichever NY team is doing better. If the Jets were in the Giants position you'd be saying the same thing about the Jets.

What? No comment about your statistical ineptitude?

You know nothing about NY sports apparently.  I despise the Jets.  I grew up a Giants fan, and have been one through good and bad. As have most Giants fans (and conversely most Jets fans are loyal Jets fans).  

This conversation is clearly going nowhere.  You'd rather be petty and throw around nonsense insults than have a discussion.  I could point out the fact that you ignored most of my points as well, but why bother.  You're clearly trying to grind an ax, not have a discussion about the Superbowl.

Enjoy your ignorant blind fandom.

I'm out. 

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February 4, 2012 12:49:19 PM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Quoting Kantok,
I could point out the fact that you ignored most of my points as well, but why bother.
Other than the last sentence, my reply #31 responded to each and every one of your points. It was you that first decided to interject the irrelevant insult of spygate so don't talk to me about axes to grind when you clearly have axes of your own to grind while spouting incorrect and irrelevant "facts" that you base equally incorrect and irrelevant conclusions upon.

Quoting Kantok,
I'm out.
It's fine with me, be a crybaby and take your ball and go home.

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February 4, 2012 12:54:52 PM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Quoting Mumblefratz,

If they replayed that game 10 times the Patriots win 9 of them.

You, sir, are correct.   +1k   

 

Go Patriots!     

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February 4, 2012 4:21:20 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Of course, the one they actually played is the one that matters. Go Giants!

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February 5, 2012 9:18:59 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Indeed. I choose to concentrate on the wonderful gluttony and economics that occurs around SBS.

Got this infographic in the email today.... this is something!

 

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February 5, 2012 6:09:02 PM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Wish i had people interested in the game to have a party with. Whats say next year some fo you come down under and watch the game??
No??
[e digicons]:'([/e]
Anyway...back to the pregame.

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February 5, 2012 8:19:21 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Are we going to have another scandal with the halftime show?    They cussed.   It was sort of mumbled, but not really.   Also I think Madonna lip sync'ed at least part of it.   The sound mix was a bit too perfect.  She is singing and doing athletic dance moves--as a 53-year-old--and didn't miss a single inflection.   Cee Lo's voice sounded real, though.  You can tell the difference in the sound quality.

Better halftime show than the Black Eyed Peas, though.   Although I did like the Black Eyed Peas, and some people didn't.

 

Oh, and Kelly Clarkson's national anthem beat the tar out of Christina Aguilera's national anthem last year.

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February 5, 2012 8:36:03 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Don't know, Don't care. Football players use their FEET and don't wear motorbike helmets.

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February 5, 2012 8:51:57 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I would grand it the PATS but the Giants are trained well..and have better defence and defence mostly decides the game

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February 5, 2012 9:12:56 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

The halftime show sucked. Whatever happened to good old rock 'n' roll? Can't stand today's crap they call music.

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February 5, 2012 9:28:54 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

3rd quarter ...... Pats 17 Giants 15.

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February 5, 2012 9:36:45 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Nimbin,
Don't know, Don't care. Football players use their FEET and don't wear motorbike helmets.

ROFL, I agree. 

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February 5, 2012 9:40:55 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

hrm.

i care more about rebellion then the super bowl...didn't know today was the "superbowl sunday". 

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February 5, 2012 9:48:28 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

21 - 17 Giants. Guy just walked into the endzone and sat down.

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February 5, 2012 9:54:21 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Giants

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February 5, 2012 9:55:15 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Funny thing is, if the Cowboys hadn't lost all 3 of their last games they shouldn't have, the Giants wouldn't even be in the playoffs.

 

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