Megaupload taken down by FBI–Anonymous takes down DOJ, Universal Music, RIAA, MPAA websites

By on January 19, 2012 6:04:55 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

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The owners of the most popular site for uploading “files” Megaupload has been indicted by a Federal Grand Jury for causing more than $500 million in lost revenue because of pirating TV shows,music and other content.

The company is run out of Hong Kong (surprise) but is hosted in part in Ashburn, VA where the indictment was made.

“Megaupload founder and operator -- Kim Dotcom (formerly Kim Schmitz) -- was arrested along with three others in New Zealand on Thursday at the request of US officials. A total of seven were arrested globally, and their charges include conspiracy to commit racketeering and criminal copyright infringement for running the "the Mega conspiracy websites" according to the DOJ. Dotcom is no stranger to the wrong side of the law, previously being convicted for credit card fraud, hacking, insider trading and embezzlement.” - http://www.neowin.net/news/megaupload-charged-with-piracy-shut-down

Anonymous wasn’t about to take this lying down. So, they did what they do best and generated DNS attacks on The US Department of Justice, Universal Music, RIAA and MPAA websites.

This just in: Anonymous has taken down hadopi.fr which is the French anti-piracy organization.

From their Twitter feed:

 

Sources:

http://www.neowin.net/news/anonymous-takes-down-doj-website-in-response-to-megaupload-news

http://www.neowin.net/news/megaupload-charged-with-piracy-shut-down

https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23OpPayBack

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/technology/indictment-charges-megaupload-site-with-piracy.html

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January 20, 2012 2:12:39 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

tiny url.. why does anyone use that stuff... you have no idea what the link points to.

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January 20, 2012 6:44:37 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Jorge...you're a producer of IP on the net....you're in the minority....most people on the net are happily [or ignorantly] IP abusers...

 

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January 20, 2012 7:10:13 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Well said, Jorge and Jafo - very true.

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January 20, 2012 7:16:08 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Sorry, but no one has the right to provide copyrighted material without the permission of the owner, period. Not in an way, shape or form! Some people make a living on their hard work, what gives anyone the right to distribute that work without the permission of the owner? I hope they take down MegaUpload and every site like it around the world. Sites owners are solely responsible for the content on their site, and if they cannot control it, they do not deserve to exist. Oh, and as far as Anonymous and other low life, scum of the Earth hacker organizations like them.....

 

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January 20, 2012 11:06:24 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting LightStar,
Some people make a living on their hard work, what gives anyone the right to distribute that work without the permission of the owner?

Well, in a lot of case, it is not the people who have make the hard work who make the money...

People who make science research, people who develop software, people who create music/song don't receive the big money...

Quoting LightStar,
I hope they take down MegaUpload and every site like it around the world. Sites owners are solely responsible for the content on their site, and if they cannot control it, they do not deserve to exist.

Well, i am pretty sure that there is plenty of birthday video everywhere on the internet... where you can ear the song "happy birthday to you"... who is under copyright... don't believe me, look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You ... so, next time that you sing it at the birthday of your wife, friend, child and more... please pay the author right else your are not better that other people who steal IP...

Point is that IP is pushed to the extreme... some material who was public domain before are with copyright today... some people other that the author make million...

Both pirate and these ( big media company ) who fight them are people that i have no respect for...

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January 20, 2012 11:49:47 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Thoumsin,
so, next time that you sing it at the birthday of your wife, friend, child and more... please pay the author right else your are not better that other people who steal IP.

It's reasonable usage so you don't have to pay ...

Quoting Thoumsin,
Well, in a lot of case, it is not the people who have make the hard work who make the money...

In most cases they do, otherwise they wouldn't put the hard work in. It still no justification for someone who has put no work in to have it for free or to make money (like MegaUpload) out of it.

Copyright is important, otherwise people like myself wouldn't make anything.

IP can be taken to the extreme ... Apple comes to mind.

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January 20, 2012 11:57:09 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting GW Swicord,
Gandhialf, one of the challenges of 'freedom' in a pluralist democracy like the U.S. is that narrow business interests can have a disproportionate role in shaping public policy, especially when matters get technical or complicated. So-called intellectual property is a prime example of this.

The IP establishment has had remarkable success in both extending the length of their rights far beyond what is reasonable and in diverting law enforcement resources to protecting their income streams. This week's check on SOPA/PIPA is somewhat encouraging, but I'm not holding my breath about seeing fair use, much less reasonable copyright terms, restored any time soon.

Excellent and informed post!

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January 20, 2012 12:53:48 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

You cannot push the blame on the hack-group.And call them Scum... H- groups can be compared with Protestants, because now-a-days only masses of people will move things forward.
“We The People” that has almost no meaning anymore for the most people…

It lost its energy. People are afraid of almost everything these days...And to have a virtual Protest with a early forward warning demanding a change isn’t anything else than going to protest against something in Real Life with a group of people the only difference is that it happens on a virtual platform.
A hacker group warns exactly as peacefully Protestants do-+ a hack does not constitute a violation in RL! Also it does not kill people! It only hurts the imaginary digital barrier and the Pyramid-system behind it.
The whole thing is called gray zone left open by the founders…
I know im not making friends with this post but its my personal feeling about it.

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January 20, 2012 1:48:52 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

There are lots of ways to spin things like this.  Obviously if you are customer of MegaUpload and not utilizing it in a way that breaks the law, well - having the site be taken off the net and losing your data obviously sucks.  I don't believe MegaUploads provided any sort of guarantee that your data would be available - I'm sure it seemed that way.  Anyway, if your favorite restaurant that has your fav food is closed for a health code violation even though you've never been sick, I think the most logical thing would be to try to deny activity to the several websites for a little while.  That will really stick it to them and cause global change.  Its a bit ridiculous, no?  Even more silly when the root complaint is likely that they should be able to access copyrighted material for free.  

"H groups can be compared with Protestants." 

uh... ok then.  Or terrorists... or maybe just hackers or folks able to coordinate simple attacks.

You can look at it how you like, of course.  There are certainly pros and cons to these sorts of people.  Take for instance the Sony hacks.  A business was shown to have lax security and as a result compromised their customers data.  Data that the customers foolishly trusted Sony to protect.  End result, Sony updates it security and the consumers are supposedly better protected as a result.  So, the hack could be viewed as something positive if you only focus on the changes made.  That said, these benevolent, kind, protesting some crap hackers steal the personal data of thousands of people.  I don't recollect if they took credit card info as well in this case.  Anyway, by sticking it to the man, they violate as many people as they can to make a point.  I don't applaud this.  Not only are they hurting their direct target (Sony), but they are hurting every single person with the threat and/or action of distributing their personal data at their discretion.  That's not so benevolent.  If we are just talking about denying access to certain websites - well, congratulations on being a nuisance.  It's a regular Arab Spring.

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January 20, 2012 1:57:59 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

My major problem with SOPA is that it throws out the baby with the bath water.

Innocent users are de facto included when a site like this is taken down and can lose their content.

Any site storing users content should be forced to copy the content and return it to the users if it is taken down.

Also, a way to take down sites should be created which will not destabilize DNS.

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January 20, 2012 1:59:55 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

I don't know. A lot of people would like to see an internet without video clips on YouTube. Especially politicians who don't like their most embarrassing moments or policy flip flops a mouse click away. You'll all probably think differently if they arbitrarily start taking down big sites with claims of IP violations. I could be wrong.

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January 20, 2012 2:27:30 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

Quoting DrJBHL,
Any site storing users content should be forced to copy the content and return it to the users if it is taken down.

Well, granted that would be nice anyway.  They'd have to make that a law to force compliance, I'd think.  Obviously, even that would be a huge mess. 

re: youtube - I'm curious as to how long it would be able to avoid something like SOPA.  I'm certain there are thousands of copyrighted content that is being displayed there.  In the past, they've gotten around things like that by removing content on request - I'm under the impression they don't do any sort of policing of their own sight.  There would definitely be a huge public outcry if they were shut down.  No policing in the first place is just silly, though.  Obviously, it wouldn't be easy to police, but a mechanism for keeping copyrighted content from being uploaded in the first place would be better... sigh.

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January 20, 2012 2:36:07 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting pacov,



Quoting DrJBHL,
reply 35
Any site storing users content should be forced to copy the content and return it to the users if it is taken down.


Well, granted that would be nice anyway.  They'd have to make that a law to force compliance, I'd think.  Obviously, even that would be a huge mess. 

re: youtube - I'm curious as to how long it would be able to avoid something like SOPA.  I'm certain there are thousands of copyrighted content that is being displayed there.  In the past, they've gotten around things like that by removing content on request - I'm under the impression they don't do any sort of policing of their own sight.  There would definitely be a huge public outcry if they were shut down.  No policing in the first place is just silly, though.  Obviously, it wouldn't be easy to police, but a mechanism for keeping copyrighted content from being uploaded in the first place would be better... sigh.

http://business.financialpost.com/2012/01/20/u-s-congress-pulls-sopa-legislation/

FTW.

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January 20, 2012 2:44:44 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

Agreed!

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January 20, 2012 4:12:15 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

There goes a lot of Sins of a Solar Empire m0ds down the drain.   Modders need services like this for their content since even Stardock can't deal with files sizes over 100mb. I didn't even realize they hosted pirated content as I just follow a m0d link and don't surf the site.

As for the "FTW" comment, it is temporary at best. From the article DOC linked...

Lamar Smith, the Republican chairman of the House of Representatives Judiciary Committee, followed suit, saying his panel would delay action on similar legislation until there is wider agreement on the issue.

Probably wait until the US starts another war and the news and public are preoccupied with something else. Or bury it on the back of some other legislation. Not sure how the US works doing that but I remember hearing something about it.

Thanks to people like DOC we can be kept up-to-date even if the MSM does not want to report news they do not want you to hear. We must stay diligent.

Thanks a bunch Doc, keep up the good work 

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January 20, 2012 4:37:37 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Sometimes I visit paranoid news websites when I'm afraid I might be getting that way myself, so that I can convince myself to come back more to the mainstream by seeing how goofy the really paranoid people are.  I found this guys' video, and dang if he doesn't make an interesting point, in that the power players behind the passage of these laws, or the introduction of them as bills...they're the originators of the software used to pirate things off the internet.  Someone please point out to me the flaw in this guy's logic, because I can't come up with anything:

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January 20, 2012 4:52:16 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting starkers,
I was speaking with my sister about this MegaUpload thing and she's quite pissed because it was the site her scrapbooking group used to store and share their brushes, filters and other elements.  She reckons about 15 gigs of her own work is suddenly gone from the net, no longer for others to share until another suitable venue is found.  Fortunately, she has backups of it all, but that's not the point.  Her entire group has been disadvantaged, not to mention penalised, by this FBI decision.
For mine, the FBI should be dealing with REAL CRIME, and the MPIAA, RIAA and other scum sucking capitalist pigs should be taking these IP matters through the civil courts, as was originally intended by legislation.  We ordinary citizens cannot get law enforcement to act on our behalf when it comes to personal business matters/dealings, and neither should these filthy rich bastards who think the cops/FBI are at their beckon call.
If I lived in the US and MPIAA or RIAA lawyers/representatives ever knocked on my door for any reason, I'd probably open fire with a mouthful of abuse first, then take a baseball bat to the mongrels.  Why, because the bastards aren't there within any true legal capacity, but to intimidate, bully and threaten people who told are they have no rights.
Yeah, piracy is wrong, but thes fuckers are going all the wrong way about combating it.  The more 'big brother' and aggressive they become, the more these rebel organisations are going to come back with a vengeance to disrupt and destroy the corporate bigwigs.  How about fairer and more realistic pricing?  I mean, 20 bucks in a cinema for a 1 1/2 - 2 hour picture.  I refuse to pay it, but if I want to see something badly enough, rather than pirate it, I'll either rent or buy it on DVD/Bluray, or wait until it comes on telly if its not that important/good.  Still, prices on digital media are too high and could come down, but no, the execs wouldn't take a salary cut to enable that idea and still make a profit.  Nope, and as far as I'm concerned the Hollywood moguls [their legal parasite and associations] asked for what they're getting.

A-fucken-men to THAT!

 

Quoting ZehDon,
I hate to get all melodramatic here, but this reminds me of The Dark Knight.

Batman* and Co. went after the Mobs money - the one thing they treasured - in order to shut them down permantely.  The Mob responded by unleashing The Joker onto Gotham City to kill Batman, which didn't work out so well because The Joker wanted to play games, not end them.

The Government institutions, namely in the United States where - more often than not - a Politician is elected on the back of a campaign where the biggest contributors are third party Corporations looking to elect people who'll protect their right to expect billion dollar profits for a disproportionate amount of work, are now going after the internet.
They'll eventually shut it down.  SOPA/PIPA?  Ha.  It's called the Anti-Counterfeit Trade Agreement (ACTA).  It's an international piece of legislation being negotiated around the world as we speak.  It's protected under National Security Laws, so don't worry - you won't read about it until it's actually signed into effect.
It's "The Man's" ace in the hole.

The question, them, is who is the internet's Joker and - more importantly - how bad is it going to get? 

I'd have to say the government is definitely pulling a "Two-Face", especially Obama and his thretening to veto stuff. Veto my ass, he's all about securing corporate interests.

 

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January 20, 2012 5:26:00 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

@Karen:

Quoting k10w3,
Someone please point out to me the flaw in this guy's logic, because I can't come up with anything:

1. Use Doc's Razor: Don't ascribe to conspiracy what can be ascribed to the desire to sell tin foil. (this is a quotable).

2. "Post hoc ergo proctor hoc" (or A is antecedent to B therefore if B then A, and A caused B) is not correct logic. In this case, nut bag asserts that since these companies distributed software which could be used for piracy, that was their intent.

Since that is illogical, there must be a fact to explain it (the 'conspiracy'): To wit, the takeover of the internet.

The fallacy is illustrated by this:

Cars can be used to kill people. Therefore, the auto makers are conspiring to take over vehicle licensing and own all the roads.

The former example is wrong because the software was intended to distribute legal, licensed content not pirated software. Just like cars are intended to be driven safely, within the law: Not to kill people and take over licensing and all roads.

This nut job wants to kill SOPA. Maybe with good reason, maybe not. Doing it because of his "reasoning" would be incorrect, and crazy.

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January 20, 2012 5:31:16 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting DrJBHL,
Cars can be used to kill people. Therefore, the auto makers are conspiring to take over vehicle licensing and own all the roads.

I would have to say the car designed here for nabster and kazaa is more like ...

but not to worry, I promise not to shoot at the guy that cuts me off...

 

EDIT: Oh crap he's dead. Sorry, a moment of lapsed judgement   

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January 20, 2012 5:42:24 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Thank you...I can go back to my work now.

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January 20, 2012 5:59:41 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Welcome, nice lady and excellent skinner.

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January 20, 2012 6:02:15 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting myfist0,
I didn't even realize they hosted pirated content

You have GOT TO BE kidding.

Come on, lad....you're dripping all over the floor coming down the last shower like that....

I buy my FSX addon planes ....then go looking for 'skins' ....repaints uploaded by others....you do the 'search' and you get the hits....and Megaupload and Rapidshare will be there....along with the planes themselves you just bought....

And as for this 'Anonymous' SCUM...yes....SCUM ... were they doing something ever-so-noble and for the-greater-good they wouldn't be bloody ANONYMOUS now, would they?

And that's rhetorical....it answered itself.

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January 20, 2012 6:22:00 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting Jafo,
You have GOT TO BE kidding.

I DO NOT SEARCH FOR PIRATED SOFTWARE

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January 20, 2012 6:40:26 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting myfist0,
Or bury it on the back of some other legislation. Not sure how the US works doing that but I remember hearing something about it.

Since that was rather buried in your post I thought I'd pull it out for emphasis.  You are exactly correct, that happens all the time.  It seems to me that this type of legislation would be a prime candidate for that treatment too - primarily a corporate interest.  We do need to watch for it.

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January 20, 2012 6:45:10 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Thanks for clarifying that for me Dave 

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