lulzSec Hacks Arizona Police: Now the Angry Gamers Have Gone Political

By on June 24, 2011 9:00:27 AM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

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Sam Biddle at Gizmodo reports (and confirmed by the Arizona Police) that lulzSec has hacked Arizona Law Enforcement because of Arizona's "racial profiling anti-immigrant police state that is Arizona".

The newest data reveal "hundreds of private intelligence bulletins, training manuals, personal email correspondence, names, phone numbers, addresses and passwords belonging to Arizona law enforcement."

“The release, entitled "Chinga La Migra" (F**k the Border Patrol) is the first time LulzSec's purported to release personal information of government agents, rather than just disrupting their websites (see: CIA, US Senate). This is a powerful move. Home addresses are home addresses—about as personal as personal data gets. LulzSec's also clearly placed a political motive behind this thrust, as opposed to the HACK HACK LMAO ethos we've seen before.” – Gizmodo

lulzSec states:

“Every week we plan on releasing more classified documents and embarassing {can’t even spell!}  personal details of military and law enforcement in an effort not just to reveal
their racist and corrupt nature but to purposefully sabotage their efforts to terrorize communities fighting an unjust "war on drugs".”

 

I don’t like illegal border crossings. I also don’t like the fact that police who have to interact with various communities in (hopefully) constructive and non-confrontational ways having the impossible onus of illegal alien hunting put on them. The Police don’t like it either. It’s dangerous, and it’s antithetical to integrating LEGAL immigrants and their families into the community.

What I dislike the most is the tactic of releasing classified training and tactical information. This endangers the people who stand between us and criminals of all stripe.  That is unjustified.

Worse: Revealing their home addresses puts their families in danger from every sort of criminal, socio- and psychopath.

No amount of rationalization justifies this. Period.

Ultimately, what lulzSec did here is illegal and immoral.

Should any harm come to the people who defend us and/or their families and property, I hope they are identified, captured and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

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June 24, 2011 9:09:28 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

You don't even want to read what I would like to say on this, but I have morals, unlike these hackers.

 

Once again, I hope they are caught and lobotomized!

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June 24, 2011 9:25:52 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

LulzSec have never pretended to be moral, and they're certainly not "gamers" (you might as well call them "christian hackers" if they happen to be christian). Their mission is to cause as much chaos and mayhem as possible, "for the lulz". Sometimes, their targets are chosen on a political agenda, such as the Arizona police and PBS. There is evidence that they have attempted to black-mail low-profile websites.

IF there is a problem with the police in an area, doing what they've done is not to the way to change things.

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June 24, 2011 9:29:29 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Unfortunately, the likely result of 'hacks' like this one will likely also be to further erode some of the traditional (constitutional) rights of law abiding citizens as authorities strive to protect themselves.  These hackers aren't helping their cause, they are taking hostage (metaphor) the families of police, and they push government to seek more tools to deal with them.  A free society suffers the consequences. 

 

 

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June 24, 2011 9:36:39 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

What the hell would they do if the shoe were on the other foot. What's stopping Uncle Sam from doing the same damn thing to them. Nothing! They should consider that their actions just might put their own families in harms way.  Uncle Sam is nobody to play with. Piss him off enough and he'll make you disappear. Wouldn't be the first time.

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June 24, 2011 9:38:03 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Heavenfall,
and they're certainly not "gamers"

They hacked game sites because they were unhappy with SEGA and Sony. Hence "Gamers". NOT to be confused with law abiding gamers.

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June 24, 2011 9:40:46 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting ElanaAhova,
Unfortunately, the likely result of 'hacks' like this one will likely also be to further erode some of the traditional (constitutional) rights of law abiding citizens as authorities strive to protect themselves.

"...and us."

Correct. Like the "Patriot Act". Never would have happened if it weren't for 9/11.

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June 24, 2011 10:25:21 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting LightStar,
Once again, I hope they are caught and lobotomized!

Seconded. Being a resident of AZ the last thing I want to see is the fine men and women of this state being attacked like this. Are some of the rules and regulations here controversial? Yes, but find me a place that doesn't have something controversial. Further the police have to follow the rules, not make them. So why target them and their families?

I will admit I first laughed with these guys when they attacked Sony and SEGA. This is too far.

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June 24, 2011 10:25:58 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Cyber bullying.

All permutations of it should be classified as terrorism and treated as such.

Pretty sure that public executions would see its popularity as a pastime for the socially inept .....er....dwindle.

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June 24, 2011 10:35:37 AM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

Quoting ElanaAhova,
These hackers aren't helping their cause, they are taking hostage (metaphor) the families of police, and they push government to seek more tools to deal with them. A free society suffers the consequences.

Slight disagreement - they do not have a cause.  They find vulnerable servers, hack them, and then make up an excuse as to why.  Their range of targets is a dead give away as to their motives.  IN short, they are just juvenile delinquents using the Internet for a joy ride.

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June 24, 2011 11:06:57 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Dr Guy,
IN short, they are just juvenile delinquents using the Internet for a joy ride.

Yep....

Nostril slitting should be an Olympic sport ....

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June 24, 2011 12:28:19 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

What I dislike the most is the tactic of releasing classified training and tactical information. This endangers the people who stand between us and criminals of all stripe. That is unjustified.

Seriously? I'd rather like to know what sort of tactics the police are being encouraged to use, especially in the wake of these recent inflammatory laws. How they were obtained was regrettable, but unlike the home address this could at least have a non-destructive use.

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June 24, 2011 12:45:14 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Jafo,
Cyber bullying.

All permutations of it should be classified as terrorism and treated as such.

Pretty sure that public executions would see its popularity as a pastime for the socially inept .....er....dwindle.

I vote "Yes. And why shouldn't flogging be 'public' as well? "Starship Troopers" (Heinlein) had it right.

Quoting Dr Guy,
IN short, they are just juvenile delinquents using the Internet for a joy ride.

For "fun and profit". Right on, Dr Guy.

Quoting Jafo,
Nostril slitting should be an Olympic sport ....

Or flogging. Agreed.

Quoting GoaFan77,

What I dislike the most is the tactic of releasing classified training and tactical information. This endangers the people who stand between us and criminals of all stripe. That is unjustified.
Seriously? I'd rather like to know what sort of tactics the police are being encouraged to use, especially in the wake of these recent inflammatory laws. How they were obtained was regrettable, but unlike the home address this could at least have a non-destructive use.

"Seriously?" - yes. Quite.

You wish to learn the tactics? No problem: Put down the game console and volunteer to go to a recognized Police Academy. Qualify. Then, after say, a year on a beat see if you still espouse the opinion that you now consider lulSec's  "how" as "regrettable" or maybe you'd find you wish to bust their arses and put them in jail.

"inflammatory laws"? Yeah. Try "just obey the existing immigration laws" and if not, the violator and offspring "anchors" are catapulted back across the border.

"Non destructive use"? You have no use for them at all, until you LEGALLY qualify to see them.

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June 24, 2011 1:23:48 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting DrJBHL,
You wish to learn the tactics? No problem: Put down the game console and volunteer to go to a recognized Police Academy. Qualify. Then, after say, a year on a beat see if you still espouse the opinion that you now consider lulSec's "how" as "regrettable" or maybe you'd find you wish to bust their arses and put them in jail.

Why should the regular citizens of the country be ignorant of the techniques of their government? The police can be just as prone to error and shady tactics just as much as anyone else. Law Enforcement was ordered to give the Miranda warnings for a reason, all too often they'd try to trick an innocent person to confess to a crime they didn't commit. They are after all human beings like the rest of us, quite capable of being "racist and corrupt". Unlike most us though they actually wield power, and thus should be transparent in how they use it.

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June 24, 2011 1:30:52 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting GoaFan77,

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 12You wish to learn the tactics? No problem: Put down the game console and volunteer to go to a recognized Police Academy. Qualify. Then, after say, a year on a beat see if you still espouse the opinion that you now consider lulSec's "how" as "regrettable" or maybe you'd find you wish to bust their arses and put them in jail.
Why should the regular citizens of the country be ignorant of the techniques of their government? The police can be just as prone to error and shady tactics just as much as anyone else. Law Enforcement was ordered to give the Miranda warnings for a reason, all too often they'd try to trick an innocent person to confess to a crime they didn't commit. They are after all human beings like the rest of us, quite capable of being "racist and corrupt". Unlike most us though they actually wield power, and thus should be transparent in how they use it.

Then use the legal route called The Freedom of Information Act. You seem to think you're entitled to see everything. Let me disabuse you. You are not.

If you feel your "rights" are being violated, take it to a lawyer, court and/or newspaper (or media equivalent).

Blackhats should have their butts busted. End of story.

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June 24, 2011 1:35:52 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Sorry, but the actions of this hacking person or group are inexcusable. They should be caught, tried, and if convicted... well you don't want to know what I would say. Yes, all human beings are prone to racism and corruption, etc., but that still does not excuse this person/groups actions.

Illegal is illegal, period!  Be it illegal immigrants or hackers. If anyone supports the actions of these hackers in any way, then they are just as bad as they are.

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June 24, 2011 1:38:46 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

You know, I have been one to think that there are times when I wouldn't mind having a "Punisher" kind of person running around taking out really bad people that the law otherwise fails to punish due to loopholes, mistakes and simple payoffs. I have also wondered why hackers never actually go after companies and people who really do bad things to this world.

Then I think about how everyone has a different idea what justice really is and I can't help but take back these idea when i think that a person or persons like this will have a completely set of laws based, not on a general believe by the public they claim to fight for, but of the belief they themselves have. And this act by lulzSec is proof of that.

When a person or group of people go out and wage wars against supposed "bad people" based on their concept of "bad people" it's a recipe for disaster.

At this point, lulzSec should be considered a terrorist group and should be dealt with accordingly.

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June 24, 2011 2:13:53 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting CharlesCS,
When a person or group of people go out and wage wars against supposed "bad people" based on their concept of "bad people" it's a recipe for disaster.

At this point, lulzSec should be considered a terrorist group and should be dealt with accordingly.

I absolutely agree.

Quoting LightStar,
Illegal is illegal, period! Be it illegal immigrants or hackers.

Absolutely. Courts will determine guilt, GoaFan77. Not some group of Blackhats.

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June 24, 2011 2:28:40 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting DrJBHL,
Then use the legal route called The Freedom of Information Act.

I agree. My original point was that the posting the home address of officers seems a far worse crime to me. From things like police training guides, sometimes good things come from bad means. With home addresses, all I see is them encouraging vigilantism.

Quoting DrJBHL,
Blackhats should have their butts busted. End of story.

Given this groups' previous activity, I agree wholeheartedly.

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June 24, 2011 2:46:23 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

 

none of this surprises me.......I've been preaching the looming danger of cyber-crime explosions for over a decade (and I'm sure I wasn't alone in this either).

 

The problem is we as a society keep wanting more and more ease of access to all of our information these days.  Cloud computing is only making this kind of stuff easier.  We collectively want access to everything now which means more and more risk is entertained since due to certain internet infrastructure design issues security can't keep up with the exponential growth in demand for and use of cloud services.

We have become our own weakness, or at the very least our demands amplify said weakness to the point where it's nearly impossible to secure our information properly and over the long-term.  Couple that with a few generations of entitlement-babies and you've got the perfect recipe for our current situation.

Things will get much worse yet, before/if they ever actually get better......

 

the Monk

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June 24, 2011 2:57:40 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting GoaFan77,

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 14Then use the legal route called The Freedom of Information Act.
I agree. My original point was that the posting the home address of officers seems a far worse crime to me. From things like police training guides, sometimes good things come from bad means. With home addresses, all I see is them encouraging vigilantism.


Quoting DrJBHL, reply 14Blackhats should have their butts busted. End of story.
Given this groups' previous activity, I agree wholeheartedly.

I'm genuinely glad to hear you say so, GoaFan77.

Quoting the_Monk,
 

none of this surprises me.......I've been preaching the looming danger of cyber-crime explosions for over a decade (and I'm sure I wasn't alone in this either).

 

The problem is we as a society keep wanting more and more ease of access to all of our information these days.  Cloud computing is only making this kind of stuff easier.  We collectively want access to everything now which means more and more risk is entertained since due to certain internet infrastructure design issues security can't keep up with the exponential growth in demand for and use of cloud services.

We have become our own weakness, or at the very least our demands amplify said weakness to the point where it's nearly impossible to secure our information properly and over the long-term.  Couple that with a few generations of entitlement-babies and you've got the perfect recipe for our current situation.

Things will get much worse yet, before/if they ever actually get better......

 

the Monk

to the_Monk. Very well stated! I'm really afraid there's no getting the worms back in the can. Literally.

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June 24, 2011 3:21:54 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

Quoting GoaFan77,
Why should the regular citizens of the country be ignorant of the techniques of their government? The police can be just as prone to error and shady tactics just as much as anyone else. Law Enforcement was ordered to give the Miranda warnings for a reason, all too often they'd try to trick an innocent person to confess to a crime they didn't commit. They are after all human beings like the rest of us, quite capable of being "racist and corrupt". Unlike most us though they actually wield power, and thus should be transparent in how they use it.

Indeed, they are "just human" as you say.  But you do seem to have glossed over a very important point of the Doc's. 

Quoting DrJBHL,
go to a recognized Police Academy.

I trust them more than a bunch of script kiddies.  But that does not say I have to trust them unequivocally.

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June 24, 2011 5:53:04 PM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

A message for LulzSec:

The immigration system America has in place now is unjust and based almost entirely on false precepts. I have no problem seeing Sheriff Arpaio (sp?) and the rest of its willing agents get taken down a peg or two. But this is just... indiscriminate overkill. The virtual equivalent of Shock & Awe. A lot of these people being targeted are just regular cops, and the families of regular cops. The people who already too often get trotted out as America's favorite scapegoats. They've never done anything to perpetuate this mess. Some of them have probably been on the business end of immigration paranoia themselves. I'm not saying they all are, but hey, it's just collateral damage, right?

You know who else is willing to bust up thousands of innocent bystanders to catch one genuine threat?

The Border Patrol.

 

You guys want to fight "the Man"?

I've got a surprise for you.

 

 

You are "the Man".

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June 24, 2011 6:22:42 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Well they blew it when they revealed police intelligence--which can include names of snitches, undercover officers and inter agency cases--like the FBI.

I'm predicting the "lulz" are gonna go down a lot in volume when a dozen of them get twenty years in a federal prison...or more if they are implicated in any deaths of informants or officers.

They have forced US federal involvement at this point on a big level.  Pretty stupid.  For 'intelligent" types, the inability to perceive the line between internet reality and actual reality is pretty ironic.

And not to stir up debate on the issue--but what other country gets vilified for enforcing it's border laws?  Good grief.

 

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June 24, 2011 6:37:56 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I can guarantee that the FBI (and probably quite a few other agencies - after all, some may be outside the US) are looking for these criminals. I really don't envy them when they're found, and they will be found. Rest assured.

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June 24, 2011 6:40:19 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Sinperium,
They have forced US federal involvement at this point on a big level

Uncle Sam don't play.

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