New Star Trek Theme............

By on March 15, 2009 9:44:47 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Leo the Lion

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Saw this on TSF today...........For all you Trekkies out there..........Don't turn this into a Hyperdesk 'bashing' thread, please. We went through that little immature debacle a few months ago. Just admire the creativity and even if you don't use Hyperdesk just admire the art work, cool icons and there's a free media player remote too.

Theme  http://hyperdesk.com/product_details.php?p=33

Audio Remote for WMP11 and iTunes http://skinsfactory.deviantart.com/art/STAR-TREK-SE-Audio-Remote-114030208

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March 15, 2009 10:01:07 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

That is so cool. I like it.

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March 15, 2009 10:32:32 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

It's nice, but with having subscriptions to ObjectDesktop Ultimate and WinCustomize I can't see paying out more money.  Heck I caught some mild crap for not having Winstep.  Can only afford to do so much.

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March 15, 2009 10:58:51 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

do I need hyperdesk to use it, or is like mycolors where it just works?

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March 15, 2009 11:21:38 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting da_zman20,
do I need hyperdesk to use it, or is like mycolors where it just works?

The suite comes with the program/patch to apply it (it's not like windowblinds...the hypersuites are msstyles).

I never watched TOS (I'm a Voyager fan) but the window frames on those themes are just so large, takes up too much space for me. The Windows themes from those hypersuites are a bit too plain and generic, they all kinda look alike. But the icons...always top notch (walls look good too).

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March 16, 2009 12:36:27 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

it's not like windowblinds...the hypersuites are msstyles

 

long live to Windowblinds

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March 16, 2009 2:26:04 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

As always, the SkinsFactory have put some quality work into this theme and it looks good, but sadly it's only for XP and Hyperdesk.

.Don't turn this into a Hyperdesk 'bashing' thread, please. We went through that little immature debacle a few months ago.

Yeah, that was most unfortunate.  Despite what people might think of SkinsFactory thoughts and ideas, they're a bunch of talented artists/skinners, and the skinning community doesn't need that sort of thing dividing it.  Personally, I miss the SkinsFactory's WB's and themes, but alas, I don't see them doing them again any time soon.

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March 16, 2009 3:56:38 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

As always, the SkinsFactory have put some quality work into this theme and it looks good, but sadly it's only for XP and Hyperdesk.

 

not any more...: Subspace Vista 

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March 16, 2009 4:02:01 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Big huge "start" button FTL. START is sooo XP and old. Less is more.

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March 16, 2009 4:36:41 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

At first glance the hyperdesk themes look awesome...but once you get past the icons they seem to drop the ball. If the rest of the skins looked as good as the icons they'd have a hit.

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March 16, 2009 5:45:24 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Icons Look cool. The buttons in the theme IMO look out of place. To me it would have looked better with LCARS style of buttons like in the task bar, instead of the Big "Candy drop" looking ones there now. All in all it looks cool other than the Candy style buttons.

 

Tho I am drooling over this.. would love to see a matching WB for it..

http://skinsfactory.deviantart.com/art/Hyperdesk-DM-Subspace-Vista-115698029

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March 16, 2009 7:01:31 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

not any more...: Subspace Vista

That's a step in the right direction, and one I'm sure many Vista users will welcome and appreciate.

Hopefully the SkinsFactory will consider doing WindowBlinds again someday soon.

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March 16, 2009 7:39:44 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting WebGizmos,
At first glance the hyperdesk themes look awesome...but once you get past the icons they seem to drop the ball. If the rest of the skins looked as good as the icons they'd have a hit.

So I've heard... Good post. Doing Hyperdesk for XP makes sense, after all, it's about 50% of the market at this point. Never got into msstyles...heard not good things from a friend about treatment of customers (I'm NOT referring to Hyperdesk).

The thing that bothers me most, though is that like MacD, the burger you get doesn't really look like the one in the pic.

With the artistic talent here, I bet a TOS skin could come out as good as or better 

 

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March 16, 2009 8:02:38 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

In short...

Same old junk!

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March 16, 2009 8:09:27 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Never got into msstyles...heard not good things from a friend about treatment of customers

I think you may be referring to TGTSoft and its flagship app, StyleXP here... they were operational one day and gone the next, without as much as a by your leave or thank you to their loyal customer, and worst of all, NO notice or warning.

I read/heard of cases where people requiring support received no replies to emails they had sent, not even an automated: "Sorry but we've gone out of business" , to explain the absence/lack of support.

I have a copy of StyleXP I can no longer use after reinstalling my OS (need a new installation No).  Oh well, it's no great loss, I've since discovered WindowBlinds and find it to be the superior UI customisation tool all-round.  Besides, WB doesn't hack system files so is the safer option anyway.

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March 16, 2009 8:21:14 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Pretty sure it was msstyles....

Oh well, it's no great loss, I've since discovered WindowBlinds and find it to be the superior UI customisation tool all-round. Besides, WB doesn't hack system files so is the safer option anyway.

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March 16, 2009 8:49:59 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Pretty sure it was msstyles....

msstyles is actually the theme manager MS provides with Windows XP.... the hacked file (from which StyleXP is fashioned) allows users to apply themes other than those supplied by MS.  I don't know off-hand who came up with the original hack, but it was available in various releases and iterations from several sources.  So while there were a couple of companies other than TGTSoft who released programs based on the hack, the hack itself was fairly generic and most popular because it was free and available from several freeware sites, whereas StyleXP and the others weren't.

The greatest number of customer complaints that I know of, however, were against TGTSoft, though those were mainly for abandoning customers when it suddenly shut up shop without warning.

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March 16, 2009 8:59:21 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

HI Leo!

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March 16, 2009 9:20:40 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Tho I am drooling over this.. would love to see a matching WB for it..

Can always buy the suite, install it on an XP machine, and hack it into a WB... (If they actually release the vista version it would obviously be a better suite to start with.. ).  It's perfectly legal (here in sweden at least, make *sure* it's legal where you're at before tinkering).

It would obviously be for personal use only, and tons of work to do, but well... Quite doable.

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March 16, 2009 10:26:06 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

It would obviously be for personal use only, and tons of work to do, but well... Quite doable.

 

True, but I would rather see an Official WB built with all the bells and whistles.

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March 16, 2009 10:43:05 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

True, but I would rather see an Official WB built with all the bells and whistles.

Precicely!  Let's hope, then, the SkinsFactory reconsiders not doing them.

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March 16, 2009 11:02:58 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

So much for the non-bashing. This is why you'll never see a Windowblinds skin out of us ever again. Thanks Leo for the original post, that was very cool. I'm glad you appreciate it.

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March 16, 2009 11:47:01 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

So much for the non-bashing.

So who's bashing it? All I see are people stating their preference for WindowBlinds.

That and mentioning a few obvious differences between the two skinning apps.

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March 16, 2009 3:24:35 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I don't really see any bashing going on here.  People are voicing their opinion about .msstyles and WindowBlinds, and they aren't knocking the designs.  It's the internet, criticisms are abound. 

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March 16, 2009 3:40:03 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Yeah, It's a regular love fest. Love the "it's junk" comment. Whatever. Same old story here. Just validates my point why I'll never bring our themes to Windowblinds. Why would we... "FTL" right?

About bringing the "bells and whistles"... even if we did work out some deal with Stardock to port our themes over to this format (which I'm almost fairly certain won't happen after my last call with Phil Madis) there wouldn't be much change to the themes. I don't want a rocket shift blasting up my start menu. that would get so annoying to me after the 2nd or 3rd time. I do not want animations on my windows theme. I work on my computer all day and night. The animations in my opinion are better served on media widgets and non-productive theme elements so they aren't a distraction. Don't get me wrong i love a good animation obviously but not on the actual theme.

Another reason besides all the haters here, we have no windowblinds distribution network, Where the hell would i sell them? I can't even comment using my real account?

 

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March 16, 2009 3:42:21 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

And for the record... my real account was supposed to be unbanned. It's bit annoying having a member # of over 3,000,000 when my real ID # is like 4500. Considering I've been part of the skinning community 10 years now...

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