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By on January 5, 2009 6:43:12 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

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It’s been over a year since our last subscription drive, and with the New Year upon us, we are excited  to announce the 2009 WinCustomize Subscription Drive!  The drive starts immediately, and will run until March 1st.  Our goal is to reach $50,000 which will in turn pay for the development of WinCustomize 2009.

You don’t have to do anything special to participate, just become a subscriber which offers many benefits over a registered user.  Remember, this is not for new users only, as now is a great time to renew your subscription and keep all the great content flowing.

Benefits of subscribing:

  • Ad-free browsing – Browse through the many skin galleries without seeing banner ads that regular users see.
  • Unlimited downloads – Download as much content as you want without hitting any download caps.
  • Premium skins – Premium skins available for subscribers
  • Master skin discounts – Get 20% Master skins when you are a WC subscriber.

A subscription to WinCustomize.com also makes a great gift.  Purchasing for someone else is easy, and can be given to virtually anyone.  Subscribe now!


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January 5, 2009 7:03:47 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I will do, as soon as finances allow

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January 5, 2009 7:19:12 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums
If I can be assured it will be built from the ground up on standards (i.e. build for Firefox/Safari/Chrome/Opera first, hack for IE last,) designed with graceful degradation in mind, and scripting only used for progressive enhancement then I will subscribe. If you could promise that Opera was a tested browser I'd be even happier but if you do the above it shouldn't matter. The current mess of a site is the only reason I let my last subscription lapse.
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January 5, 2009 7:54:14 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Mess of a site? the site is well organized, looks wicked, and user friendly IMO

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January 5, 2009 8:07:35 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums
the site is well organized, looks wicked, and user friendly IMO
You are correct TG!!!
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January 5, 2009 8:13:44 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Hey you're back teddy!!!!!! *hugs* everything went ok with surgery!!!

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January 5, 2009 8:23:28 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

the site is well organized, looks wicked, and user friendly IMO

 Yes but we badly need a 'Back to Top" button on the forum pages, like most sites have.

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January 5, 2009 8:29:21 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Jim, there's one under the 'Quote' thingy in posts

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January 5, 2009 8:30:55 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Jim, there's one under the 'Quote' thingy in posts

 

Jim you just got pwned!

 

pwnage

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January 5, 2009 8:33:47 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Jim, there's one under the 'Quote' thingy in posts

Well I'll be damned!!  How long has that been there? And how long have I been here?  It don't say "Back to Top" . You have to spell it out for me...lol.  Thanx , TG!   

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January 5, 2009 8:35:50 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

lol 'Scroll to Top' then

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January 5, 2009 8:44:40 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

It don't say "Back to Top" . You have to spell it out for me...lol. Thanx , TG!

Actually mouseover it and it says scroll to top...

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January 5, 2009 8:51:37 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums
(i.e. build for Firefox/Safari/Chrome/Opera first, hack for IE last,


You do understand that IE still has overwhelming market share, and a great majority of our site visitors are using IE? 
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January 5, 2009 9:13:27 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I'm going to be renewing both OD & WC, I was just waiting for all the servers and stuff to be fixed. I'll be doing it before the 22, which is My one Year anniversary here, I hope I get one of those nifty "Top 1 Yearling" awards!

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January 5, 2009 9:36:58 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums
Still recovering from Christmas, so it'll be a while. I think this is the first time I've been without since I first bought one. Not used to these damn ads.
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January 5, 2009 10:14:29 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I'm good for a while yet on both WC and ODU, but I got this 33% discount thing in my email....is this good on renewals? I could renew early.   Edit--I did and I am good for ODNT Ultimate thru Dec. 2010!!   

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January 5, 2009 11:26:43 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I'm bankrupt, so I no longer have a credit card [ex husbands fault ] so, ID, is there a way I could do it by money order?   I'm going to juggle this week's pension about so I can subscribe, finally

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January 5, 2009 11:35:50 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Who wants to buy a kidney?  I have two of them and I only need one, but I do need money for a subscription, so if you know anybody looking for body parts on the black market...I'm your girl! (Craigslist won't let me post this).

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January 6, 2009 12:31:08 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Selling them kidneys cheap, huh?      Try this for cheap! Edited

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January 6, 2009 12:57:04 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting PuterDudeJim,
Selling them kidneys cheap, huh?      Try this for cheap! http://forums.wincustomize.com/335558


FREE!! YEAH!! I can afford that.

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January 6, 2009 3:52:17 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums
wish i could contribute..WC is one fine community, IMHO.. but ive already spent my funds on WB and recetly, some comp upgrades..
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January 6, 2009 9:21:33 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums
] so, ID, is there a way I could do it by money order? I'm going to juggle this week's pension about so I can subscribe, finall


http://www.stardock.com/order.txt



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January 6, 2009 8:51:14 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

You do understand that IE still has overwhelming market share, and a great majority of our site visitors are using IE?
Which is why I did not disregard IE entirely, but it is far easier, and will result in far cleaner code to maintain, to code first for browsers that at least get the standards mostly right (there'll always be bugs) than for IE which still gets it so very wrong. Adding workarounds for IE at the end will be a far less tricky task in comparison to coding for IE first and supporting other browsers later.

Even without that my points about graceful degradation/progressive enhancement remain valid. There is also the very high likelihood that if you code to standards and hack for IE later you'll see pages with massively reduced sizes, resulting in a nice bandwidth saving (though admittedly probably not as much as some other sites, as the bulk of your bandwidth is probably downloads). See if you can get the Slashdot guys to give you a rough idea of their bandwidth use before and after they switched from their HTML 3.2 layout to the current layout.

Mess of a site?
Take a look at the page source some time if you know your HTML/CSS/JS

For a real world example if you don't know those languages: open up Wincusto in a clean Opera install. Then use site-specific preferences (right-click-->Edit Site Preferences...-->Network tab-->Identify as: Mask as Firefox) to make Opera pretend it is Firefox. Suddenly the site will work a whole lot better, not because Opera is doing anything different, or changing how it implements standards, but because the site's code is not rejecting Opera out of hand anymore. The trouble with this approach is that anyone using it then appears to Wincusto's servers to be a Firefox users – Opera's visible market-share on this site becomes artificially low as a result.

I posted that advice a day after the current site launched and included simple advice (i.e. treat Opera the same as Firefox in the JavaScript) to the authors that would be trivial to implement and improve (though not perfect) things quickly. This advice about Opera was included (although with the erroneous implication that Opera's behaviour changes with respect to how it handles the code its sent) in a post promising Opera support (which I note includes a request for Opera user to be patient, but I think I've done that for long enough) somewhere down the line but I don't recall seeing a single change designed to improve the site's performance in Opera. I then posted updated advice, which would net support equivalent to masking as Firefox, but without that copy of Opera disappearing from the server stats; I was promised this would be added to the note on Opera compatibility but it never happened so it's likely that virtually every copy of Opera bar mine used to browse this site is actually counted for stats purposes as Firefox.

If it sounds like I have an axe to grind that's probably because I do. I've waited (even offered my time to help) near on two years for any kind of promised improvement only to see nearly bugger all. Right now I won't subscribe because it seems my money will be wasted on excessive bandwidth and site code 10 years out of date. I really like Stardock as a company otherwise though, I even have an OD ultimate subscription.

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January 6, 2009 9:01:26 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Yes, I know my HTML/DHTML/CSS, even some PHP & SQL , just give them a chance to upgrade thing's

You could always switch to IE, nothing wrong with it [did I really just say that!! ], I would never change.. if it ain't broke.. don't fix it..or..something like that

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January 6, 2009 9:24:31 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Opera maket share -  0.71% Netwide  http://www.netapplications.com

 

Why is it even in the conversation ?

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January 6, 2009 9:49:16 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Because I tried to make clear in my original post that if you're doing things right you shouldn't even need to support Opera, it will just happen naturally.

Regardless net-wide browser stats are amazingly unreliable. Example: Opera market share 4.24%. See also some questions about Net Application's stats. I especially like the one where Chrome's stats were 'fixed' post-publishing with no explanation. The only stats Stardock can remotely trust (tracking unique users is still not a trivial task, and just counting simple hits punishes browsers with more aggressive caching like Opera) are their own, but as I've already pointed out Opera currently gets the best results here when it tells the server it's Firefox.

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