IE 7?

What's with this?

By hallv5 Posted May 8, 2008 11:31:33

"We're sorry, but your version of Internet Explorer isn't compatible with the Impulse Community website. The Impulse Community supports only the latest version of Internet Explorer, version 7. Please update Internet Explorer to participate in the Impulse Community. "

Logged on to Impulse a few minutes ago only to have the above pop-up when it defaulted to the 'Communities' tab as it does on startup. What gives?

Not all of us have a computer with enough muscle to handle IE7 without experiencing major slowdowns. So we're good enough to sell all the goodies to, but not good enough to get support as we were led to believe we would when we made the purchase? Sheesh!!!

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hallv5 what kind of set up do you have?

I'm running an older Gateway P4 system with XP Home and SP3 with IE 7. Not having any problems or slowdowns.

If you identifly what you are running it's possible some of the members here could offer some advice. Surprising what a little tweak here and there might do.

i am using amd sempron 3100 with XP home with IE7, runs file - i use FF though

Here's my system info...

Windows XP Version 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2
Bios AT/AT Compatible 02/15/06
Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) 2.50GHz
Memory 735.29 MB

MCI Drivers AVIVIDEO: Video for Windows
MPEGVIDEO DirectShor
DirectDraw Support Yes (5.03.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158))

When I had IE7 installed I incurred major slowdowns while online. Reverted back to IE6 on advice of my tech.

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hallv5, I run Vista with a pentium 3 2.53GHz, with IE7 and have no problems with surfing the net.

Right off the MS Website. I am looking forward to 8.

Computer/Processor

Computer with a 233MHz processor or higher (Pentium processor recommended)

Operating System

Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3), Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, or Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (SP1)

Memory

For Internet Explorer 7:

Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) - 64 MB
Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) - 64 MB
Windows XP Professional x64 Edition - 128 MB
Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (SP1) - 64 MB
Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 ia64 - 128 MB

Drive

CD-ROM drive (if installation is done from a CD-ROM)

Display

Super VGA (800 x 600) or higher-resolution monitor with 256 colors

Peripherals

Modem or Internet connection; Microsoft Mouse, Microsoft IntelliMouse, or compatible pointing device

It is unacceptable for Stardock to require IE7 to use the Impulse Community feature. Impulse should be able to use at a minimum IE6, Firefox and Safari for best compatibility with their customer base.

It is unacceptable for Stardock to require IE7 to use the Impulse Community feature. Impulse should be able to use at a minimum IE6, Firefox and Safari for best compatibility with their customer base.

shiva7663 all though I don't use FF I understand it works just fine.

You may feel that Stardock making their software compatable with IE7 is unacceptable, that's okay.

I say they should require IE 8 Beta, or Firefox 3 Beta.. lol

Stardock has an obligation to follow along with the current technologies created by Microsoft. IE6 has already been replaced and to the very best of my knowledge has not been updated in some time. Since Impulse is brand new it stands to reason it would be made for the latest technology and prepped for the incoming version 8. This is not to alienate our customers but to stick with the broadest tools that are supplied.

In the inevitability of updated software I encourage anyone whom can to try out the latest version of IE, or even use FF. I happen to use both with out issue.

IE6 is such a pain in the arse to code for I won't go in to any details. For the love of god anyone using IE6 needs to upgrade to IE7 or use Firefox

at a minimum IE6, Firefox and Safari for best compatibility with their customer base.

Safari? Why?

My issue isn't with Stardock making Impulse IE7 compatible: it's with them blocking content inside Impulse if your default browser is something else and you don't have IE7 installed at all.

Stardock has an obligation to follow along with the current technologies created by Microsoft.

I disagree. Noone has an obligation to follow along with Microsoft's current technologies. It is a choice your company makes. And it seems lately that Stardock has been blindly following along like a lost puppy dog, listening to whatever MS has been spewing as the "best technology", or "latest big thing", without thinking through if it really IS the best way. Perhaps it is the best way, perhaps it is not. But please don't try to talk to us users as if we are fools and claim you have an obligation to do what you have chosen to do - it's a choice. Look at my website and all of the software which I have written - all of it in Visual Basic 6. I've been written up in magazines and books worldwide for some of my utilities. And I have chosen to stick with the older, tried and true technologies which work well for me and all of my worldwide users.

Robert Petruska

Noone has an obligation to follow along with Microsoft's current technologies.

If your plan is to gain the shared relationship that MS and Stardock share then I suspect there are obligations on both parts that need to be honored.

All of the products here are for WINDOWS and it makes good sense to me that Stardock would pursue such a relationship with Microsoft. It's not MS spew as you so eloquently phrase it. The issue at hand is not about YOUR website and YOUR products. Good luck to you in your adventures to NOT have the type of relationship with the company which makes the OS you write software for. That's always a good practice!

All they need to do is follow the well-established best practice of graceful degradation and enable Impulse to present content based on other default browsers.

Now, plz.

When I had IE7 installed I incurred major slowdowns while online. Reverted back to IE6 on advice of my tech.

Hallv5,
Did you turn off Phising filter? There were some issues with the initial IE7 and 100% CPU.
Fixed now I think, but I never turned mine back on to see.
1.8Mhz Xeon with 1GB RAM no problems now.

I say they should require IE 8 Beta, or Firefox 3 Beta.. lol

agreed...

IE7 isn't all that heavy, and besides, if you think it is too slow, then use firefox or opera or something else for your browsing, and leave IE7 for the few programs that integrate with it (driver auto installers, web basede anti virus scans, windows update, and impulse...)

Well despite the arguments against it, it's time to face the fact that IE6 is going to be phased out eventually. It's a dying application. IE is the only browser that we support older generations, and there will come a time when none of the stardock websites support IE6. There's just no sense hanging onto a browser version that hasn't been updated in 10 years.

The IE7 requirement is only for the community site. The store portal, support forums, application/game browsing will work just fine if you're sticking with IE6.

My issue isn't with Stardock making Impulse IE7 compatible: it's with them blocking content inside Impulse if your default browser is something else and you don't have IE7 installed at all.

Actually, it's not that we're blocking content. Without a lot of custom coding specifically targeted at IE6, the site is actually unusable. This isn't an arbitrary decision to exclude browsers we don't like. It's a technical limitation.

For IE7 to be slow online with the specs you've given means either your on a slow connection or the comp is seriously buggy & it's time for a reformat or you have a number of realtime scanners running,as for your so called tech guy..lmao.. you best find someone who actually is a techie..nough said

there will come a time when none of the stardock websites support IE6.

Oh, that's just GREAT news. So what about all of our Win2000 Servers which only have IE6 (since IE7 is only available for XP/2003 and newer)? Does that mean we won't even be able to browse Stardock's website to look at information and/or updates for SD's Windows utilities? I can understand the skinning apps/utilities, as they require newer APIs, more CPU/RAM horsepower, etc. But not the base Utility apps. Come on, Stardock... for the love of God, STOP ABANDONING YOUR USER BASE!!!!!!

Let me repeat again:

THE ONLY SITE THIS REQUIREMENT AFFECTS IS THE IMPULSE COMMUNITY SITE. This is due to the complex nature of the site. Stardock.com is a static site that is low on the fancy bells and whistles.

On a side note, did you know that Windows 2000 represents 0.6% of Stardock.com's traffic, and 0.4% of WinCustomize? Both sites which still fully support IE6. At what point is it OK to stop supporting an OS or Browser?

What about all us still running MSDOS 3.0? Are you gonna abandon us too?

At what point is it OK to stop supporting an OS or Browser?

Well, if you just stick with STANDARD HTML code, then you should not ever "stop supporting a Browser".

STANDARD HTML code

I really, honestly and sincerely do not mean to be even the slightest bit rude with this comment, but that phrase really shows how out of touch you are with modern web development. I'm sorry, but you're wholly incorrect.

People who love their old browsers will continue to hold onto them. There are still people using ancient version of Netscape, Lynx and Mosaic for that matter. The choice is theirs, naturally. But the progression of the web and what is available in terms of functionality, and how the specs and technology has grown since those old browsers were maintstrea has far surpassed their capabilities. Additionally, supporting platforms that the platform manufacturer doesnt even support any longer makes no business sense. As a courtesy you support these aging techs just long enough for the stragglers to catch up.

OpusCroakus, to address your Windows 2000 Server question, the answer is simple; install Firefox. It works just as well in a server environment. In fact, we have a trend going here where that is one of the first things installed on our servers. There's really no argument at that point for not using a modern browser. Both Mozilla and Opera teams have shown that you can certainly provide a build that runs well on machines not running Windows XP.

Those resisting updating seriously need to ask yourselves why. Personally I wait at least a year before updating my Operating System to the next big one. And I get that, because I like to wait for all the bugs to be ironed out. That's a valid argument. But, as an example, hanging on to say Windows 98 for 10 years, just for the sake of argument or because 'i want to' and then expecting all new software coming out to support it is just plain silly. 1997 has come and gone my friends. IE6 is a dying beast.