Are you a winner or a loser?

By Posted September 17, 2007 19:31:28

As I get older (read more experienced socially) I have gotten a lot better in determining whether someone is a winner or a loser. Without knowing how much they make, how well they get along with their families, how in order they have their lives, I can usually tell in the course of a conversation whether the person is basically a winner or a loser.

So how can you tell? Here's some things I look for:

A Winner…

  1. Leaves a given situation better than they found it. If you loan them something or let them use something of yours, you'll get it back in as good or typically better condition than when you loaned it.
  2. Never takes advantage of the good will of others. Winners see the good will of others as a gift to be honored and will respect it.
  3. Takes responsibility for failure without making excuses. If something goes wrong, they cut to the chase and will say "I blew it, it's my fault I will make it better."
  4. Takes the long view of things. Winners are very good at looking at things from the long term. One of the reasons why winners tend to have money is because of this trait.
  5. Has a strong sense of delayed gratification. Winners can control their short term desires in order to build a better future. For instance, proving that money isn't what separates a winner from a loser, a winner's home will almost always be bigger and have nicer things in it even if they make the same amount of money as their loser friend because the loser will have squandered their money on junk.
  6. Sees themselves as masters of their own destiny. Winners are captains of their own lives. Whether they are poor or disabled, they will still see themselves as being in control.
  7. Tries to learn how successful people became successful. Winners learn to recognize other winners and see what they can learn from them.
  8. Knows life ain't fair and deals with it. Winners know that life is indifferent and random. They will adjust their course based on the obstacles put in their way.

A Loser…

  1. Tends to leave a given situation worse than they found it. Ever loan someone a car or let someone borrow one of your things or stay at your house? The quickest way of seeing if someone is a loser is if they trash your stuff. Loan a loser a car and it'll come back with a stain on it. Loan them a tool and it'll come back broken. Let them stay at your place and they'll leave it a mess.
  2. Will exploit the good will of others. Losers are fundamentally inconsiderate and this is a big reason to what dooms them to being a loser. "Success has many fathers" is true in so many ways. To be successful you need people to help you and losers will always ensure that people aren't helping them because they will squander the good will of others before they can get very far.
  3. Makes excuses for every set back and blames others for failure. Another easy way to spot a loser is the plethora of excuses they give. Nothing is ever their fault. You can even get an idea to what degree of loser the person is by how ridiculous their excuses are. The greater the length the person goes to avoid taking responsibility the bigger the loser.
  4. Thinks only of the here and now with little thought of the future. Losers always seem to lack any foresight. They'll do things that have inevitable severe consequences and yet be oblivious to those consequences because they can't think more than a few days ahead.
  5. Has to have things now. One of the reasons why losers never seem to have money is that they have no self-control. A loser won't have any sort of investments or savings but will have an Xbox 360, Play Station 3, and a Wii and then bitch about not having any money. Losers seem to consume toys and junk like others breath air. As a result, they never build any sort of assets.
  6. Sees themselves as victims or having "bad luck". Nothing screams "loser" louder than someone saying how some authority figure "had it out for them." Please. While there are certainly bad actors out there, nearly always it's just a loser trying to argue how they just got screwed rather than recognizing that maybe they should have done what they were supposed to be. "Oh, she had it out for me, she was just waiting for me to show up twice in a row stoned so that she could fire me!"
  7. Thinks successful people were just lucky. Losers have envy down pat. It rarely if ever crosses a loser's mind that they might learn something from winners. That's because they think winners are just lucky. A loser is good at finding a minor obstacle and using it as an excuse to fail. "Oh, if only I could sing, then I could be a rock star and be rich! If I could sing then I wouldn't be living in this dump." Life is a bit like a race in the sense that from the end of high school on you see increasing differences between the different people in terms of lifestyles. Some people certainly get head starts because of mom or dad helping them. But over time, life has a way of sorting things out quite a bit. If you've become successful in some way, the differences between you and others may be quite significant. So when if you run into a contemporary, you can usually tell without asking about their background if they're a loser by how they react. If they behave enviously or use the term "luck" several times then odds are they're a loser. In the few times where I have inquired about what they're up to, sure enough, they're a twice-divorced, semi-dead beat dad working at some crappy job in which their boss is "screwing them over" living in a crappy apartment (but with a state of the art cell phone and Playstation 3 of course).
  8. Worries about what is "fair". Nothing is more annoying than people who think there is some sort of objective "fairness" to life. Here's a quick way to know if you (the reader) are a loser or a winner: Are you making enough money where you currently work? If you feel you're underpaid, then a winner will work harder to show demonsratable results and failing to get appreciation for their hard work will find another job. A loser, by contrast, will rationalize working less and screwing off more at their job because they're not paid well enough (which due to #4 means they'll always be a low paid drone because they don't recognize the logical consequences of that strategy).

What's amazing is how easy it is to spot winners and losers. It's usually incredibly obvious within moments of meeting someone. Most people aren't losers. But it's not a gradient or anything like that. Those people who fall into the loser category tend to be full-hog into that category (i.e. meets almost all the criteria in a big way). That's what always shocks me is that losers don't just have one or two of these traits, they almost always have all of them.

As an employer, I've employed my share of losers (I'm getting better in the interview process). I've seen people who have had every opportunity completely squander our good will and blindingly sabotage their own futures through an amazing lack of foresight, victim-role playing and lack of self control.

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September 20, 2007 10:15:34
looser...
September 20, 2007 10:19:39
looser...


Well tighten up then
September 20, 2007 10:41:06
Bear in mind, most people are neither winners or losers. And it's not a matter of being in-between as much as being in a third category of "everyone else".


It's a nice day today so I think I'll fix a lunch for myself, pack it and go to the park. While there I'll just take in the sun light, listen to the birds and watch all the rest of humanity go around in what ever state of mind they may be in. I will be content with knowing that they are missing a beautiful day while I sit there eating my lunch contemplating, nothing!

No, not wiser or smarter than the rest, just after along life being able to come to the realization that when the end does come, not a living sole will care what category my life was in.

Have a wonderful day, and take time to enjoy it.   

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September 20, 2007 11:42:34
Bear in mind


how much can a Koala bear?.......sorry... ......really bad aussie joke........

I'm going a little nuts here trying to figure out if I'm a winner....a loser.....an in-between or an everyone else........think I'm just gonna head on down to the park and have lunch with Philly.......


No, not wiser or smarter than the rest, just after a long life being able to come to the realization that when the end does come, not a living sole will care what category my life was.


Thanks Philly......I'll bare that in mind.......
September 20, 2007 11:52:37
how much can a Koala bear?.......sorry... ......really bad aussie joke........


Yep, but done by a Yank...I used to know him as Tex, some years before people knew him as Austentayshus.
September 20, 2007 12:01:09
Hi sydneysiders, you're welcome to join me.    I call dibs on the cole slaw, you can have the potatoe salad!  

Not to dwell on the subject but life is pretty much like what people say about babies, they don't come with an instructional manuel. You just have to learn as you procede from one day to the next. (Damn, I should have written that down, Oh, I did)  
September 21, 2007 07:02:12
you can have the potatoe salad!


     

Not to dwell on the subject


   that's what we're here for............    
September 21, 2007 19:35:05
I've always said that success in life can be measured by all those people who are willing to consider you their friend, and give up their most valuable commodity [time] FOR you ....


I know exactly the kind of people you're talking about Jafo, I have friends just like that and I consider myself a fortunate person to have those people in my life. Awesome point there!
October 5, 2007 04:52:45
winners seldom see the finish line...
October 8, 2007 13:51:32
I'm a loser.
October 8, 2007 14:08:51
depends on who i ask
my kids? winner ..
my motheinlaw? looser
October 8, 2007 20:57:00
my kids? winner ..


that's what counts.....  
October 12, 2007 05:53:48
I think... I'm somethink average between Winner and Loser...
   
October 14, 2007 15:36:33
my motheinlaw? looser


Looser than what? A two-dollar whore who carries her bowling ball in her snatch to tuesday night league?

Here's a hint. Losers don't know how to spell loser. (Or mother-in-law, for that matter.)
October 14, 2007 20:48:17
heres a bigger hint.. winners don't bash or attack elders of the community





October 14, 2007 21:20:15
Alrighty folks, hold up!  Remember, a few of us are posting from various Stardock websites, and we might not all be familiar with how things are done on each site.  Little-whip, although I can see you may have been trying to inject humour into the situation, it is likely that HG_Eliminator did not appreciate such a comment.  It could be seen as a personal attack, which is a meaning that I hope you didnt mean to convey.

What we see in Brad's post is a recognition of traits that make individuals successful or unsuccessful.  There is no need to drag other members' family into matters, even if humour was intended.

HG_Eliminator, one thing to remember is that this isnt the only community with 'elders'.... Little-whip is an elder in her own right over on JoeUser, so lets avoid talking down to each other.

Everyone, please remember that this is one of those threads thats visible on a few sites... Try to set an example for other members.
October 14, 2007 21:31:37
Looser than what? A two-dollar whore who carries her bowling ball in her snatch to tuesday night league?

Here's a hint. Losers don't know how to spell loser. (Or mother-in-law, for that matter.)


Wow thats a very bad thing to say...

How about just a simple correction and not so serious about what kind of a person one may be or not?
I think HG_Eliminator was only saying this is what he thinks they would be saying - if someone where to ask. That and I tend to make a lot of typos from time to time also. So that makes me a whatever you decide it is also. WOW...

But I think we need to think more before we say things about others. If I've hit the wrong note with this then ... hey sorry! But I'm not sure I like the statement about what is not even said for another persons family member. I'm very sure you would not like it that way yourself.
Could there be a way to explain what this is as to what you really mean or let's just forget it maybe...


SGT
October 15, 2007 03:47:17
So it's ok to refer to your mother-in-law as a loser, but not ok to refer to a poster who can't even spell 'loser' as a loser?

Skinning must kill brain cells.
October 15, 2007 04:08:36
so must bloging, as in comprehension just isn't there..

or maybe you missed this part?


[QUOTE]depends on who i ask[QUOTE]


Here let me spell it out for you

thread title: Are you a winner or a loser?

my reply: depends on who i ask
my kids? winner ..
my motheinlaw? looser

In other words I was asking them about me.. not referring to them.. DUH.

I can spell just fine, who cares if I decide not to fix a few typos...it don't give you the right to make personal attacks...

next time dig deep in to the depths and understand what is typed before replying




October 15, 2007 15:14:15
so must bloging


It's blogging. (double g)

In other words I was asking them about me


And perhaps I was agreeing with the mum-in-law's assessment!

it don't give you the right to make personal attacks...


Did you mean 'it doesn't?'

next time dig deep in to the depths and understand what is typed before replying


Nah, it's much more fun to skim things, make a fool of myself, and then sit back and watch half a dozen other people make fools of themselves too! (Oh, and it's 'into.')

Here let me spell it out for you


Only if you can do so without error, dear.

Zee SpellinK NatsEe haF SpokiN!

October 15, 2007 15:24:43
What a terrible way to end a good thread.
October 15, 2007 15:30:50
What a vindictive, great way to end a boring thread.
October 15, 2007 15:35:03
Wow..Elder or not..just wow.  
October 15, 2007 16:35:53
Play nice people.
October 15, 2007 16:45:22
Actually my posting of my motherinlaws opinion was satire, her opinion of me is uncommonly high... lets put it this way 2005 I handed her a brand new park ave for Christmas. Thats how well we get along.. Typically I jest with the whole "motherinlaw/adversarial" thing..

as for your assertions of me..dont know, dont care.

only ones that matter are my kids, my wife, all others are moot.



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